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Posted: 6/13/2002 4:59:42 PM EDT
Any moral problems with it?
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:10:27 PM EDT
Most of these "artists" are the same communist, socialist, antigun liberals as the majority of hollywood actors. Do I care if I download their music without paying them? NOPE. Do I care if I backdoor and threaten the financial security of recording companies who are predominantly antigun? NOPE. Is it any different from taping songs off the radio? NOPE. If I really like a artists politically and musically, will I buy their music? YEP. Should we make sure Rage Against The Machine songs are readily available for free downloads so those jackoffs never see a dime? YEP.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:11:28 PM EDT
The music industry likes to ignore the fact that music sales have gone up despite people downloading MP3s like crazy. Those downloads help drive sales. I rarely purchased CDs even before MP3 fileswapping took off. Since then, I've bought more, as I ran into new bands that I never otherwise would have heard of. No band has lost a sale to me because I could find their music "free" -- the sound quality is usually much worse on MP3, so if it's something I really like, I buy it.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:20:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 71-Hour_Achmed:...I rarely purchased CDs even before MP3 fileswapping took off. Since then, I've bought more, as I ran into new bands that I never otherwise would have heard of. No band has lost a sale to me because I could find their music "free" -- the sound quality is usually much worse on MP3, so if it's something I really like, I buy it.
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Same here. I've only four or five times that I can remember bought CDs that I haven't heard a good portion of, and I've got over 400 disks. I download mp3s and if I like it I buy a CD. I do have every CD that I own archived on the computer though to save wear and tear, and as a big juke box.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:22:45 PM EDT
[url]http://www.deesplace.com/CourtesyOfTheRedWhiteAndBlue.html[/url] Toby Keith's "Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue" plays on a continuous loop. Has the lyrics written out, and the file is downloadable as a WAV file.... Like the song? Buy the CD when it comes out. Or get the CD single.... Scott
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:24:13 PM EDT
On the topic, [b]ALL[/b] the music on my computer is in WMA format, from CDs I paid for. I do artistic work myself. Not into endorsing ripping off another artist.... Scott
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:32:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:33:01 PM EDT
I'm not sure that it is either communist thinking at it's finest, or costs the artists nothing. Either way, the music industry is going to have to deal with it. And they need to find a better way to do it than suing napster and audiogalaxy. If I'm not mistaken, not only can you record songs off the radio but you can also tape VHS copies of new movies rather easily. Seems like the motion picture industry has done rather well despite that fact. I don't see any reason why the record companies can't as well. As for me, most of the music I download is either out of print, extremely hard to find, or I'm checking it out to see if I like it. If I like it, I will buy it on CD. Mainly because most of the bands I listen to aren't supported by huge record labels. Nor are the record shops I buy them from.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:33:47 PM EDT
I agree with 71. MP3s are free promotion for the artists. Otherwise only famous ones like Sting or J Lo would sell. I sampled quite a bit of music by downloading stuff online and I don't want to pay for stuff that I've never even heard of and can seriously suck. In fact most of the stuff I download totally sucks. But once in a while I find something really cool, and if I can find the CD I'd buy it cause the quality is better. Most of the MP3s you can download online have pretty low sampling rates, most of the stuff I have are like under 100. Not comparable to CD quality.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:40:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 5:57:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AlClenin: Any moral problems with it?
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I was never really into Mp3's. Now full length movies... that's another story. Watched "Windtalkers" last week; "Spiderman" and "Star Wars" over a month ago. Since then I've gone to a theater to see one of them (Spiderman) and plan on going to see "Windtalkers" on the big screen. I guess I look at it as a "try before you buy" kind of thing.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:09:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JasonF:
Originally Posted By AlClenin: Any moral problems with it?
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I was never really into Mp3's. Now full length movies... that's another story. Watched "Windtalkers" last week; "Spiderman" and "Star Wars" over a month ago. Since then I've gone to a theater to see one of them (Spiderman) and plan on going to see "Windtalkers" on the big screen. I guess I look at it as a "try before you buy" kind of thing.
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Gee, I didn't even know they did movies.... Scott
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:16:52 PM EDT
Check this site out for some unknowns.... [url]http://garageband.com/[/url]
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:42:55 PM EDT
I mostly go after stuff that is out of print. I still not sold on the quality of MP3. The higher bit rates should be comparable to a CD but to me they still do not sound as good.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:45:40 PM EDT
No problems with it at all, as long as it is not done for profit. As has been said, they are not losing a sale because of it...I would NOT be buying the whole CD to get one song I like. And if the CD has a bunch of songs I like, I will buy it as well as DLing the songs.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 6:54:55 PM EDT
Hey, it's a dog-eat-dog world. Get away with what you can. CDs cost less than a dollar to produce, they should not be 17.99. There is an article in the current issue of Rolling Stone on the same topic.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 7:00:01 PM EDT
I had maybe 4 CDs to my name before MP3s, and have only bought one since (Bruce Dickinson album). But I've downloaded quite a massive load of MP3s. If they weren't free I wouldn't have bought the music anyway, I just plain wouldn't have it now. Now I've got alot of free music but they lost no money on me.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 7:00:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DScottHewitt: Gee, I didn't even know they did movies.... Scott
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The movie industry is in a panic over it (can't say I blame them). So much so that they tried to attach a rider to Anti-Terrorism legislation that would mandate protection schemes for hard ware vendors... it got nuked. Quality of the movies varies, but is getting better. Check out [URL=http://www.vcdquality.com] VCDQuality [/URL] for current releases (loads kind of weird, you might need to give a minute or so). Ain't the Internet wonderful! [:D]
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 7:26:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By jz02: I agree with 71. MP3s are free promotion for the artists. Otherwise only famous ones like Sting or J Lo would sell. I sampled quite a bit of music by downloading stuff online and I don't want to pay for stuff that I've never even heard of and can seriously suck. In fact most of the stuff I download totally sucks. But once in a while I find something really cool, and if I can find the CD I'd buy it cause the quality is better. Most of the MP3s you can download online have pretty low sampling rates, most of the stuff I have are like under 100. Not comparable to CD quality.
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All true for the most part, the Dave Matthews Band cooperated with Napster and made one of their albums available for download before commercial release, sold over a million copies it's first week. They said they'd never done that before. Britney Spears' second album of crap was pirated on Napster she still sold over a million the first week and the week after that. Everyone I know that downloads movies still goes to the theater and sees what they normally would have anyway. Nothin but free promotion.
Link Posted: 6/13/2002 7:37:12 PM EDT
I have a slight problem with it. I have 5,000+ MP3's and I'm still down loading them.
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