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Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:33:38 PM EDT
[#1]
Hannah, Kar98, ETH, ???  Would you e-mail me about this so hopefully it can be resolved?
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:33:54 PM EDT
[#2]
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It's finally nice to hear from you, Sir! So, my apology was insufficient, I take it?
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I either missed it, or overlooked it otherwise.
Btw, I occasionally I do spend my time with more profitable or charitable activities than bickering on the 'Net.


Do you think that I purposefully called you or any other member on this Board a name? A bad name?
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Yes. Absolutlely, positively, no misunderstanding possible, yes.

... I was not under the impression that by becoming a Moderator I was giving up my right of free speech.
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No, but I was under the impression that by becoming a Moderator, one would accept the responsibility of being moderate, since you're not only speaking for yourself, but for the owner of the site.


Have I ever locked one of your threads? Have I ever deleted any of your posts? Have I ever taken any actions against you whatsoever?
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None of the above, since we're both grown-up adults, we can look both back at what we said, and admit where we went over the line, and where we've been wrong. At least that's to be expected of people of our age.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:35:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:41:43 PM EDT
[#4]
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It's finally nice to hear from you, Sir! So, my apology was insufficient, I take it?
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I either missed it, or overlooked it otherwise.
Btw, I occasionally I do spend my time with more profitable or charitable activities than bickering on the 'Net.
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Well, please re-read the thread and see if my apology was sufficient. Whenever you get the chance, that is! Wouldn't want to interfere with those charitable endeavors of yours! Or the profitable ones either, for that matter!

Quoted:
Do you think that I purposefully called you or any other member on this Board a name? A bad name?
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Yes. Absolutlely, positively, no misunderstanding possible, yes.
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Now we are getting some where!

[b]What bad name did I purposefully call you?[/b]

[b]What bad name did I purposefully call any other member of this Board?[/b]

Again, I await your answers to these questions!

Eric The(StillPatient)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:41:57 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Ho, jackass, bastard, are certainly not terms of endearment, but I was not under the impression that by becoming a Moderator I was giving up my right of free speech.

>]:)]
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Ohhh, puhlease.

You KNOW free speech doesn't apply in here.

Its teh Avilas house. THEIR RULES apply. NOT the Constitution. Just get one of them down here, and let's TOGETHER ask them if you, as a Mod, and supposed keeper of the peace, should EVER be calling me, or anyone else a "jackass" as you did.


I don't mind the term. I think it more applies to the type of person who uses it.

[}:D]



Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:44:44 PM EDT
[#6]
Hmm, [b]garandman[/b], I still we still haven't found any words that appear as 'jacka**', have we?

Remind me to play Scrabble with you for money at the next BRC!

Eric The(Insouciant)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:47:17 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
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Let us just all agree that this little spat is all about Eric's support of Israel.

I never thought I would quote Imbroglio.

Just stop it childrenz.
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Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:51:38 PM EDT
[#8]
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Look, it's easy, Eric, all you have to do is to say something along the lines of "I am sorry, I went way over the line calling members of this board jackass and similar terms, and I am now aware that it is quite inappropriate to call American mothers ho', bitch, or their children 'bastard'. I see the error of my ways, and will try to be more [i]moderate[/i] in the future."

How is this?
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How is this...anyone who praises the gates of Buchenwald has insulted every decent person in the entire free world...the veterans who fought died &were permenantly disabled (blind paralyzed and amputees) to liberate Europe from the grip of one the worlds most vile regimes..the Nazis..and much too late their death camps...Every gun owning Jew on this board and all those who visit..have that quote of Hannah of the third Reichs hanging in their face as on those same cold iron gates.. ..her anti christ salutation to those who are belivers on this board is a constant insult..as a gun owning combat vet Christian I am insulted many times by remarks made against Christ...me I often most am deserving of such remarks but not Him...so where is Hannahs apology to me?...she should be down on her knees imo..asking for forgiveness and if she isnt repenetant thrown off the board most ricky tic..She has done a far greater insult than ETH ever has IMO
An insult to "American Mothers" LOL...getting knocked up at 15 hardly qualifies one for that honored title..the truth of what was said was that these kids should not be honored for having babies out of wedlock (bastards) or sex out of marriage (whores)...these births are not accidents
what she stepped on a banana peel and got pregnant?....to glorify this child to make her a little mini hero..is wrong...If you are going to honor someone how about honoring the little bible believer that stayed pure in High School even when her peers...were having sex getting knocked up and making fun of her..harrassing her for being a virgin..yet she worked hard made the sports teams the honor roll..went to college...got a job..found a guy got married in a church..and raised her kids to do the same...that is an American Mother to be honored not some little misguided Ho...
Granted she had the baby and not an abortion...but it used to be that we dishonored people for screwing up...those are the mores and folkways American used to have ...we didnt tolerate bastard kids and queers...and pedophiles and child pornographers and theives and gang bangers and rapist and Hollywood liars and all that our culture has degenerated into...that was the purpose of shaming people in the old days...to protect them against their own evil propensities and in turn protect society..to molly coddle these behaviours is to encourage them..to honor them is to ensure these behaviors becoming the morays and folkways...on the face of it..it is harsh and intolerant that is todays morays and folkways talking...the new world order talking..the old ways were not harsh how much harsher is the fatherless childs life..compared to one who has a good dad..a stable home
But then it is exactly what the Nazis and the commies and the God haters want for America to destroy her from within...to make the takeover easier from without...Its just my opinon...
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:55:24 PM EDT
[#9]
Turn my back for 10 damn minutes, and hear I am on page 3 already.

Anyone who has ever met ETH from this board will always welcome him into their home (As long as you have good earplugs, he does tend to fill the silence up at times) [:D].

Please trolls, stfu!

WL
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:55:37 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Hmm, [b]garandman[/b], I still we still haven't found any words that appear as 'jacka**', have we?

Remind me to play Scrabble with you for money at the next BRC!

Eric The(Insouciant)Hun[>]:)]
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Me, play scrabble with a wordsmith????


Prolly not a good idea. SPECIALLY if its fer money.

[}:D]

Keep trying to ake up some other meaning for "jacka**" tho.  I just consider it conduct unbecoming.

Link Posted: 6/11/2002 5:59:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Well, please re-read the thread and see if my apology was sufficient.
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Found it, and I'll even repost it:

[i][b]Ach Du lieber! Es tut mir Leid!

Well, since we're all sharing our guts here, I appreciate the bit of info in that post and I can now understand why you took such offense to my schoolboy's understanding of German.
I apologize, sincerely, for raking up these memories, best left forgotten, as inconsequential in all respects!

Eric The(Sorrowful)Hun
[/b][/i]

Found, read, and accepted. Although my memories aren't that bad. Not counting the polar bear of course ;)


[b]What bad name did I purposefully call any other member of this Board?[/b]
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[img]http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/screen3.jpg[/img]

And I really do not appreciate if either I, or friends of mine are called Nazis, anti-Semites, friends of terrorist, or communist, wether implied or spelled out.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:01:05 PM EDT
[#12]
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How is this...anyone who praises the gates of Buchenwald has insulted every decent person in the entire free world...(snip)
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9divdoc:
You obviously missed the whole discussion about this last autumn.

"Jedem das seine" means simply, "To each his own".
It was an old saying my grandmother used a lot.
I live by it. She was a wise old lady.

The Nazis apparently used it too, but they neither invented it, nor hold patent on it.
It is an ancient saying, and to imply I am a Nazi because of it is narrow and stupid.
I have never said anything Nazi on this board.
If you think I am a Nazi, you are a fool.
I am a Libertarian.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:04:21 PM EDT
[#13]
That'd be the one!!!.


But Kar98, he's a Mod AND used a smiley face right after his multiple profanities toward me, so its OK.

Now calm down, and say four "Hail Erics" (if you are so inclined)

[}:D]

Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:06:03 PM EDT
[#14]
I've said it once today, I'm saying it again:

Arguing over the Internet is just like the Special Olympics.

[b]Even if you win, you are still retarded.[/b]

the_reject
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:06:46 PM EDT
[#15]
I think (in part) these following passages are some of the ones being objected to as well as the aforementioned "bastard" ones:

Posted By Macallan-
Yes, oversexed, undereducated, hedonistic, illiterate, nubile teenage fucktoys are now being CELEBRATED for their adolecent carnal knowledge and purely backwards, immature, self-centered attitudes towards sex.

"Hi, I'm Stacy Goodfuck, I'm a mommy,
and I'M happy (and that's ALL that matters),
I can't watch scary movies alone,
because I'm not old enough yet.
I'm only 14.
I like horseys and unicorns,
and want to be just like Britney Spears in her video where all those guys all have sex with her at once.
I love playing with my baby,
even though I know it makes all the other girls at my school jealous {giggle-giggle} (they're soooooooo immature).
I can't wait until I'm 18 and will get my own house to live in.
I'm Stacey Goodfuck."
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And the following, posted by ETH--
How about one for 'My favorite Pimp'?

'Yes, I'm Stacey 'WallerForADollar' GoodF**k, and while Mom watches my kid, I like to cruise the boulevards with Puff LeRoi, who treats me so special, cause he never beats me in front of his other girls, and he never forces me to have sex with strangers unless I really really want to please him....or he really really needs the money...'

Get the handbasket ready! We're headed to Hell!

Eric The(USA?Yo'TimeIsUp!)Hun
------------

Now, these are only TWO of the excerpts from this post, and give the appearance of both mysogyny and racist tendencies.

If not for the fact that I am severely under the weather and therefore already queasy, I surely would have puked after reading these as well as other replies on this thread.  

[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=123675[/url]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:09:27 PM EDT
[#16]
And I really didn't appreciate this one either:

[img]http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/screen1a.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:13:26 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I've said it once today, I'm saying it again:

Arguing over the Internet is just like the Special Olympics.

[b]Even if you win, you are still retarded.[/b]

the_reject
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Dude -

The occurrence of the BRC event SHOULD have taught you this AIN'T the internet.

THIS is a FAMILY, a firearms community,  where unity is KEY to survival, where REAL people can meet together, or as I did, feel unwelcome given certain statements made by certain individuals.



Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:15:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:19:12 PM EDT
[#19]
Did I accidently send a message to /dev/null or why are you piping up again, legs?
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:19:41 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Dude -

The occurrence of the BRC event SHOULD have taught you this AIN'T the internet.

THIS is a FAMILY, a firearms community,  where unity is KEY to survival, where REAL people can meet together, or as I did, feel unwelcome given certain statements made by certain individuals.
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Dude -

The occurance of you logging into this site via your web browser SHOULD have taught you this IS the Internet.

This is a loosely-knit online community, where unity is via a common thread - a love of firearms, the AR-15 in particular - where REAL people can sit behind their keyboards and act like gods or walking encyclopedia volumes, or, as I did, as a situational pundit commenting on certain statements made by certain individuals.

the_reject
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:21:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:26:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Thanks, theDave, we are nowhere near the fire path.
Many many times before, I have ignored ETH and just let it go, knowing he HAS to have the last word, and will resort to anything to get it.
But today was just a bit too much.
Sorry if it disturbs the rest, but this is just too many times, and too many rule violations to let it go.
Moderators are supposed to *moderate*, not call names to win arguments.
That is against board policy, and NO ONE is above this, no matter how big their fan club.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:36:05 PM EDT
[#23]
WE ARE NOT racists (unless being of European heritage and not hating yourself is racist). We are opposed to racial hatred and intimidation, regardless of who practices it. We salute honorable men and women of all racial, ethnic, and religious groups. The AFA sympathizes with the efforts of all cultural and racial groups to maintain their identity and promote their legitimate interests. We are opposed to all forms of totalitarianism, of the left and the right alike.

HAVING SAID THAT, we might add that we are not pitiful ethnomasochists, cringing before the court of the politically correct, ready to apologize for living. We are proud of the countless generations that gave us birth and we will stand, unflinchingly, as their sons and daughters.

Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:41:41 PM EDT
[#24]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:44:32 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Hannah, and Kar98,

We rarely agree...
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That's quite accurate an observation. However, I've never met you, or even talked to you on the phone, for all I know, I don't know anything about you. Only because we disagree on a few issues of minor importance doesn't mean I hate your guts or would resort to name-calling. We can discuss things in a appropriate manner, and neither you nor me have ever acted in the "I'm so much smarter than you, boy" manner.
From a moderator, representing a board of about 20,000 members of the gun culture, I simply expect yet better, even better than me.


BTW I do hope and pray that neither of you are in the fires path, it doesn't look very good.
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Thanks, that's much appreciated, but so far we seem to be way out of the way. Besides, the devil takes care of his own ;)
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 6:45:32 PM EDT
[#26]
Just a Good Old Boy network.......never mean'en no harm.

Beats all you ever saw they was run'en from the law since the day they was born.[:E]

Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:01:19 PM EDT
[#27]
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Many many times before, I have ignored ETH and just let it go, knowing he HAS to have the last word, and will resort to anything to get it.
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This is very true.  I haven't read the thread(s) in question, and I probably don't have a stake in them anyway, but I've read many posts here and have found that EricTheHun believes that the person who posts last automatically wins the argument.

I've just accepted this as part of the dynamics of the discourse on this board, and eventually some members' opinions begin to carry more weight that others.  Try to find your peace and leave arrogance to the pros.

[(:|)]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:01:49 PM EDT
[#28]
I got a new cat. [:)]

My other one died [xx(]

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:04:34 PM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:14:00 PM EDT
[#30]
Since this is going nowhere fast, howz about you all just [b]agree to dissagree[/b] and leave it at that? Seems logical to me.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:19:42 PM EDT
[#31]
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Since this is going nowhere fast, howz about you all just [b]agree to dissagree[/b] and leave it at that? Seems logical to me.
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Not only that, but all [b]try[/b] to remember that this is a privately owned web site, and that the right to freedom of speech does [b]not[/b] apply here.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:33:31 PM EDT
[#32]
Which is exactly why I feel the Rules should apply to Mods as well as members, Zardoz.....
This is a private site with *Rules*.
That's why, when a Mod degenerates to name calling or racist slurs to win an argument, he should be disciplined the way the rest of the members are.
That's all I ask, is that the Rules apply to ETH as well as us.
Out of respect to the owners wishes.
The "Ebonics" crap, and the name calling is clearly over the line.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:38:37 PM EDT
[#33]
Curious why paul,raf,or hun never address this online tough guy's statement[url]www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=123675&page=3[/url]
I'm referring to GUS from PA statement.
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:46:50 PM EDT
[#34]
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Which is exactly why I feel the Rules should apply to Mods as well as members, Zardoz.....
This is a private site with *Rules*.
That's why, when a Mod degenerates to name calling or racist slurs to win an argument, he should be disciplined the way the rest of the members are.
That's all I ask, is that the Rules apply to ETH as well as us.
Out of respect to the owners wishes.
The "Ebonics" crap, and the name calling is clearly over the line.
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Your words fall on deaf ears. sir.[}:D]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:50:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Eric moderates?  When?

Has it ever happened?  Can anybody actually point to any threads he locked?

I've never seen it...

Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:50:57 PM EDT
[#36]
Sir? [:D]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 7:52:25 PM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 8:01:41 PM EDT
[#38]
The Romans!
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 8:16:57 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
I think (in part) these following passages are some of the ones being objected to as well as the aforementioned "bastard" ones:

Posted By Macallan-
Yes, oversexed, undereducated, hedonistic, illiterate, nubile teenage fucktoys are now being CELEBRATED for their adolecent carnal knowledge and purely backwards, immature, self-centered attitudes towards sex.

"Hi, I'm Stacy Goodfuck, I'm a mommy...
<<< SNIP! >>>

-------------------
And the following, posted by ETH--
How about one for 'My favorite Pimp'?
'Yes, I'm Stacey 'WallerForADollar' GoodF**k, and while Mom watches my kid...

<<< SNIP! >>>

Now, these are only TWO of the excerpts from this post, and give the appearance of both mysogyny and racist tendencies.
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Hey, I got no fight in this dog!

I ain't a Mod.

WFT??? [>:/]
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 8:23:35 PM EDT
[#40]
Ok, wtf stole the bowl of popcorn??



Ai
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 8:27:41 PM EDT
[#41]
It's a really nice cat....I called it Timber because it has wood[;)]

Sgtar15

PS I am going to miss my old kitty.


PSS.  Gotta go, the rice is ready
Link Posted: 6/11/2002 8:28:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
This is very true.  I haven't read the thread(s) in question, and I probably don't have a stake in them anyway, but I've read many posts here and have found that EricTheHun believes that the person who posts last automatically wins the argument.
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I win!! [devil]
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