If you could let an "SBD" in a crowded elevator you would take great delight in that too, wouldn't you?  I know your kind--you're my kind!!  [;D]

I was the last 19 y/o virgin to marry (in 1978).  I approach the topic of this thread, not from a religious viewpoint, but purely pragmatically.  [i]I don't want to support the bastard children of others.[/i]  Period.  Exclamation point!  This sort of thing is dreadfully harmful to the innocent child and society at large.  DO NOT CELEBRATE IT!!  It seems my wife is constantly going to baby showers for bastards.  We don't fight over money or sex--just inappropriate baby showers.  She insists "society has changed."  I insist "right is still right and wrong is still WRONG."  If anyone doesn't believe me, read GodBlessTexas's last paragraph in his post above on page 2.  Breed responsibly!!

Well if nothing else all us bastards can hang out together [:)].

I won't even grab your butt - or your mom's[:D]

I will attempt to address this in a cohesive manner, though our arrival here has been very convoluted.  BTW, if you choose to avoid me at the next BRC, so be it, though that would not be my choice or desire.  I like you, as always.  That said, here goes:

How old are you?  When your mother became pregnant with you I bet they (the public schools) were not teaching sex ed. almost to the exclusion of the "three R's."  They were not allowing/promoting abortions behind parent's backs.  They did not put young girls on oral contraceptives w/o the parent's knowledge.  Right?  Things are different now.  Young girls know how pregnancy occurs, and how to avoid it.  Contraceptives, for those sexually active, are readily available.  In spite of this, some (many?) girls get "knocked-up," often on purpose, sometimes due to severe lack of morals.  Their baby is an "accessory" at best, or, at worst, an inconvenience to be thrown into a dumpster, or abandoned with the grandparents, or whomever, will raise the child.  Now, going back to the beginning of this thread--did you read the inane, childish comments posted by the pic of the girl?  As someone else commented, they sounded like an eight year old.  Certainly not from someone capable of being a mother.  My comments were directed toward her, and those like her.  Does your mother fit that mold?  I doubt it.  You know that I know nothing about your personal life.  You, like Kar98, are personalizing this in a way that bespeaks of "issues" that I don't care to be drawn into.  My mother raised my brother and I, mostly alone, following a divorce at my age 5.  My father paid his support faithfully, and did the visitation thing, but he lived 100+ miles away, so he could hardly "raise" my brother and I.  I know the struggles your mother no doubt went through.  I grew up, on welfare, as "trailer trash."  Nothing "high and mighty" in me.  I do, however, have a rather high moral standard that I aspire to maintain.  I'm not religious, but I have enough sense to know what's best--and Biblical morals just work.  So, please don't take my posts out of context, and apply them where they weren't intended, or to those not being addressed.  I meant no disrespect to you, your mother, or anyone else, save those who genuinely deserve it, as described in the original intent of this thread, who "can't watch scary movies by myself and like chimpanzees."  [rolleyes]


One other thing to Hannah_Reitsch:



Pretty silly generalization here, eh?  

But not damned if they could conduct themselves in a ladylike fashion.  [i]Poor girls?!![/i]  Please, talk to a few, they are anything but "poor" as in pathetic.  

Wow, after 4000+ posts, this one is my very favorite.  Those who met me and my lovely wife at the BRC are eagerly waiting my reply.  ETH is ROTFLHAO,  MM is rolling her eyes.  Here goes:  You [b]had[/b] to say Hispanic.  Not Japanese, not Hungarian, Hispanic.  To answer your question--Why, [u]YES I DO[/u]!!  My preferred term is "beaner."  Why, you ask?  Am I a racist prick?  Naaaaaah-those who had the good fortune to meet my lovely wife perhaps noticed she has distinct Hispanic features--she's of Mexican descent!!!  I use that term when teasing with her.  Hoo boy!!  I could not have put you up to this, huh?  

Seriously, I do get it.  You want the comments made by me and others to be applied to individuals, and I, yes, am intentionally making generalizations--NOT to be applied to you or anyone else here, whom I consider to be friends.  All of my comments are directed toward "bad choices"--not "bad people."  In particular, the children born out of wedlock are guilty of [b]NOTHING.[/b]  These "poor girls" referred to by HR I see on a daily basis while doing my job.  Guess what--they ain't[!] innocent victims.  MM met me and knows I am hardly an Adonis, and getting long in the tooth, to boot.  I regularly have these "poor girls" blatantly coming on to me.  Dunno why.  Even when I was single, mature women didn't.  I see young girls daily that can only be called duragatory names, based upon their own choice of slutty behavior.  When they get knocked up, it is due to their own poor choices.  To me, this has nothing to do with MM's mother, your mother, or anyone else's mother from decades ago.  I have tried to address this thread, and its original topic.  I have cast aspersions at no members.  I hope this post, that has made my hands hurt typing, settles this once and for all.  I mean no disrespect to anyone here.  Ever.  [:)]


MM, if I have the pleasure of meeting your mother, I assure you I will be gracious, polite, and friendly, as always.  I hope I can meet her.  [:)]

Can we raise the level of debate rather than our voices? Or should we just lock this one and start in on something new?

Well, in an attempt to draw this back on topic (I was guilty too), [u]Is there anyone here that thinks that publishing this in the yearbook is the right thing to do?[/u]  I can see having it in a school newspaper, probably with a more negative slant (how much work being a young single mother is).  But having it in the yearbook in a tone where 'some students said the article "made it sound like getting pregnant was good." ' just seems like the wrong thing to do.

All this "Mexican talk" is cracking my wife up.  [:D]

Actually, she just said she would like to post on this subject some of the comments she has heard her own nieces make regarding the topic of spitting out babies out of wedlock (hint:  they think it's a GREAT idea and "so cool"), but she is fearful of the certain onslaught.  She does not lift her leg high enough to run with the big dogs.  Hehe.  God, I love my sweet wife!  I hope Jarhead_22 sees this thread.  [whacko]