[b]FBI agents given new latitude to monitor Internet sites, libraries and religious institutions [/b]

No Kidding !!!

Look at how many lurkers are on the site at 7:15 am.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30427-2002May29.html[/url]

New Justice Department guidelines to be unveiled today will give FBI agents latitude to monitor Internet sites, libraries and religious institutions without first having to offer evidence of potential criminal activity, officials said yesterday.

The changes, part of the Justice Department's effort to mount a proactive war on terror, will mark a significant change for the FBI. While agents have been permitted in the past to conduct such surveillance if they had specific information, they have been loath to do so because of confusion about what was actually permitted, law enforcement officials said.

Justice Department and FBI officials said the guidelines will remove serious barriers to the prevention of terrorism.

"The concern is when we're confronted with people like [Zacarias] Moussaoui, or even some of the hijackers, who are known to spend substantial periods of time in mosques or other similar situations, it is very difficult to find out what they're up to," said one senior law enforcement official.

Terrorist organizations operating in this country have sometimes used mosques as recruiting grounds and gathering places. Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind Egyptian cleric now imprisoned for his role in the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, built a radical following with links to al Qaeda while preaching at mosques in Brooklyn and Jersey City, for example.

But as word of the new guidelines circulated yesterday, some civil liberties groups expressed fears of a Big Brother government monitoring its citizens.

"The FBI is now telling the American people, 'You no longer have to do anything unlawful in order to get that knock on the door,' " said Laura Murphy, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Washington office. "You can be doing a prefectly legal activity like worshiping or talking in a chat room, they can spy on you anyway."

The new guidelines state simply that FBI agents may enter public places and forums, including publicly accessible Internet sites, to observe, develop leads and investigate. The guidelines do not specifically mention religious institutions, but a senior Justice Department official said last night that the impact of the changes will be dramatic in allowing the FBI to open a window on extremist activity in mosques.

"These are open places," he said. Now, "just because they are FBI agents, they don't have to turn a blind eye to activities visible to other people."

Under guidelines that have been in place for several decades, the FBI has not been permitted to send investigators into religious settings unless the agents can establish they are following a lead, or conducting an investigation or preliminary inquiry. As a practical matter, the Justice Department official said, "agents mistakenly think they have to stop at the church door."

In a written description of the guideline changes made available yesterday, Attorney General John D. Ashcroft stated that the department needs to be able to "proactively draw on available sources of information to identify terrorist threats and activities." In the past, he said, the FBI has been a reactive body, and the guidelines "generally barred the FBI from taking the initiative unless leads as to possible criminal activity or even more substantial evidence of crimes happened to come to the FBI from external sources."

The new rules will allow agents to surf the Internet for Web sites that might give hints to terrorist activity, according to the description. The new guidelines will allow investigators to seek out and "identify sites and forums in which bomb-making instructions, preparations for cyberterrorism, child pornography, and stolen credit card information are openly traded and disseminated."

Under the existing policy, agents could pursue online searches only when they could characterize them as checking leads or otherwise furthering an ongoing investigation.

"Pure surfing or searching for the purpose of initially developing leads was not allowed, even in relation to publicly available information that anyone else is free to access and observe," according to the new policy statement.

Agents will also be permitted to do topical research not directly related to a specific crime under the new guidelines, such as research on a biological agent.

The ACLU's Murphy said, however, that the new guidelines could open the door to the same kind of problems evident in the FBI's aggressive surveillance and harassment of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

Several other aspects of the new guidelines, disclosed earlier this week, will move some decision-making authority from FBI headquarters to field offices around the country. FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III acknowledged yesterday that changes must be made to counter bureaucratic inertia at headquarters that led to missed clues in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Under the new guidelines, field office directors will be allowed to launch terrorism investigations and undercover probes without clearance from headquarters.

The guidelines are an outgrowth of privacy laws that prohibit the government from collecting information except for law enforcement purposes. In the past, the government developed information on specific cases but now needs broader intelligence to prevent terrorist acts.

I sometimes agree with the ACLU, but this is an assinine comment. There has never been any "expectation of privacy" in worshipping in a church/mosque open to the public, or in a chatroom. The police have always had the right to "spy" on you there.

Cool!  Can we order copies?  [:D]

No kidding, they must have half the bureau assigned to us from the number of lurkers here today. [;)]

Why doesn't the FBI subcontract the surfing out to us? I bet we're better at then them & we already have better guns than them. Seems like there is $ to be made here.

That would be us good old fasion Americans who are not democratic liberals.
It will be all of us who hold the Constitution dear to our hearts.
It will be anyone who complains about our rights, which ever they are, taken away.

I remember when Blaze of Glory was around a guy from the FBI actually did post.
Hey FBI guy, are you out there ???
Come on out, we don't hate you. Your one of us right???

Yes they will learn more here.
Lets just hope they know 97% of us here
are patriotic Americans who love our country,
and are not trouble makers.

I know its all interpretation by them.
Soon people with sling shots will be
considered dangerous after they have
killed all of us off.

Yes, brother against Brother.
No one is safe as long as they believe
in having right set for us by the constitution.


[size=3][b]FBI = Fat Bureaucratic Idiots[/b][/size=3]

More wasted tax dollars.
Look at how they fucked up the 911 information.
They are all walking around doing the elephant walk !!!