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Posted: 5/27/2002 11:32:12 AM EDT
[img]http://alclenin.freewebspace.com//images/spider.jpg[/img] I've counted about 30 of them in my basement.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:34:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2002 11:38:34 AM EDT by GSG9]
How big is it? Is it actually shiny like in the pic? How many eyes does it have? Jake
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:39:21 AM EDT
Jesus Christ! That's the deadly Brown Recluse! Run for your life!!!
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:41:59 AM EDT
I agree. That appears to be a brown recluse spider. If you found 30 of them in your house you have a problem. Call an exterminator immediately. Bill3508
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:43:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2002 11:48:17 AM EDT by AlClenin]
Too big for a brown recluse I think. That would make a good horror movie scene though. Go down into the basement and get mobbed by 30 brown recluse spiders. Then time lapse shot of the body rotting away. It doesn't look that shiny in regular light. I think it's the camera flash makign it look that way here. # eyes don't know. Size, I'd guess about two inches+ diameter if you'd splay the legs out in a flat circle.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:43:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By poikilotrm: It is not a recluse. There are two poisonous spiders in North America, the brown recluse and the black widow. Both are about the size of a quarter legs and all. Both have a distinctive abdominal marking, a violin on the recluse and a hourglass on the widow. That thing is killing bugs in your house for free, doesn't spread disease, and can't hurt you.
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Kill it anyways. Yuck!
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:46:40 AM EDT
To be on the safe side I would still call an exterminator is it just me or wan you see the fangs on this thing.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:46:41 AM EDT
In my house it would be a dead spider. Try .22 shotshells, much cheaper than an exterminator. poikilotrm, I don't care how beneficial it may be, it must die. And black widows are a whole lot bigger than a quarter. Or at least they look bigger before I squish 'em.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:46:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2002 11:53:22 AM EDT by GSG9]
Brown recluse? My God! If the picture is not hiding something such as a fuzzy body, 6 eyes in a semicircle, that type of thing, then its a common cellar spider (daddy long legs). Run for your life or it'll heebie jeebie you to death! Jake [img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Pholcidae/pholcus_phalangoides.jpg[/img] What does Daddy longlegs look like? The daddy-longlegs have a quite simple structure. Therefore they are classified in between the six eyed and the eight eyed spiders. The internal structure of the female sexual organ is identical to that of the six eyed spiders. The mating ritual of these spiders is also similar to that of the six eyed spiders. The spider can be easily recognized by a small mass of body and its extremely long legs. They have four pairs of legs. The first pair of legs is five and half times the length of its body. The legs do not have any prickles but have long stiff hairs. The knee segment is much darker than the rest of the legs. Their venomous fangs are very small, too small to penetrate the human skin and even while catching a prey they are not used. Two of the eight eyes are very small. At the place of the heart (at the top of the abdomen) there is a dark spot. The spider must, as all spiders do, renew its skin.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:54:08 AM EDT
I'll be getting rid of them (if I were about 1 foot shorter they could stay, but I don't like getting the things on my face while walking around the basement) and wanted to make sure my method of getting rid of them wasn't going to get me in trouble. The method? Collect them all live in an opaque jar and send it to a friend as a joke. Need to make sure he isn't going to get bit with something nasty if I do that. I have to wonder how that many spiders are finding a food supply down there though. I wonder what sort of critters will start popping up if I get rid of these. I've looked around the webs for dead bugs and the only things i've found were a few sucked dry flys.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:54:42 AM EDT
We have lots of brown recluses or fiddle backs here in OK and they are usually smaller than that and appear sort of fuzzy not shiny and they always have a distinctive black fiddle shape on there backs. If they bite you the skin around it will turn real red and will die and rot away in a big circle around the bite and several layers deep. My brother got bit by one years ago and to this day is still freaked out about creepy crawlers of all types.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:56:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GSG9: [img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Pholcidae/pholcus_phalangoides.jpg[/img]
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That looks like it. So no danger with the joke. Good.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:57:59 AM EDT
I think it's too big to be a recluse
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 11:59:51 AM EDT
(daddy long legs). Exactly! AB
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 12:10:44 PM EDT
The brown recluse is commonly called the "fiddleback" spider because of the characteristic "fiddle" pattern on its midthorax portion: [img]http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/images/2061_2.jpg[/img] Source: [url=http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2061.html]Ohio State University[/url]
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 12:18:13 PM EDT
Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock]
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 12:38:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Yankee1911: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock]
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Think how many spiders will crawl all over you while you're in bed sleeping throughout your lifetime BAWAHAHAHAHAHA [X]
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 12:39:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2002 12:40:36 PM EDT by AlClenin]
Originally Posted By Yankee1911: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock]
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The spiders don't get to me as much as centipedes do. Those thing creep the hell out of me. [img]http://www.snhpc.com/bugs/centipede.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 12:45:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 12:46:20 PM EDT
Dude! You should live in Arizona... We have every type nasty critter known to man... Daddy longlegs is harmless to anything bigger than a fly...
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 12:56:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 1:26:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DarkHelmet: I did read somewhere that hte Daddy-longlegs is the most poisonous spider on earth but that it's fangs are far too short to pierce human skin. Can anyone corroborate this or is it just one of them Urban Legend things?
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Absolutely a urban legend. Not only are they no more venemous than ordinary spiders, they aren't even a genuine spider.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 1:30:45 PM EDT
[img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Pholcidae/pholcus_phalangoides.jpg[/img] What does Daddy longlegs look like? The daddy-longlegs have a quite simple structure. Therefore they are classified in between the six eyed and the eight eyed spiders. The internal structure of the female sexual organ is identical to that of the six eyed spiders. The mating ritual of these spiders is also similar to that of the six eyed spiders. The spider can be easily recognized by a small mass of body and its extremely long legs. They have four pairs of legs. The first pair of legs is five and half times the length of its body. The legs do not have any prickles but have long stiff hairs. The knee segment is much darker than the rest of the legs. Their venomous fangs are very small, too small to penetrate the human skin and even while catching a prey they are not used. Two of the eight eyes are very small. At the place of the heart (at the top of the abdomen) there is a dark spot. The spider must, as all spiders do, renew its skin. [/quote] [b][green]How is this not a real spider???[/b] [/green] Jake
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 1:43:58 PM EDT
Or would you be calling this a daddy long legs? [img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Opiliones/Leiobunum_rotundum_D0094.jpg[/img] [b] Harvestman Opiliones These are not real spiders, but resembles the spiders very much because they also have eight legs. They belong to the class Arachnida like the spiders, ticks and mites, scorpions and pseudoscorpiones. 3500 known species are known. 27 are found in NW-Europe. This order can be divided in three families: Nemastomatidae, Phalangiidae and Trogulidae. Harvestmen have an oval shaped body. The front and back of the body is grown together in contrast to spiders where the front and back end and separated by a stalk (pedicel). They have two eyes in the middle of their head looking sideways. They are also known as "harvestmen". Most of the harvestmen have long legs, but not all. They should not be confused with the "daddy longleg" The Opiliones do not possess poison glands but has instead glands that produce a stinky odor. They also have no silk glands or spinners. Harvestmen eat everything (omnivorous). They catch small insects or eat the decays of any dead animal, bird dung and other facial material, all kind of plant material and fungi. She normally is active during the night. Copulation is, in contrast to the spiders directly, directly with a penis. There is no foreplay and the copulation is no longer than a few minutes and may be repeated several times.[/b]
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 1:46:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GSG9: [b][green]How is this not a real spider???[/b] [/green] Jake
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[url]http://www.snopes2.com/critters/wild/longlegs.htm[/url] The daddy longlegs isn't technically a spider, but even if it were, it wouldn't be the world's most venomous one of those, either. The daddy longlegs isn't "poisonous" (or venomous) at all. In fact, it doesn't even bite and poses absolutely no threat to human beings (other than sometimes emitting a foul smell).
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 1:55:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Originally Posted By GSG9: [b][green]How is this not a real spider???[/b] [/green] Jake
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[url]http://www.snopes2.com/critters/wild/longlegs.htm[/url] The daddy longlegs isn't technically a spider, but even if it were, it wouldn't be the world's most venomous one of those, either. The daddy longlegs isn't "poisonous" (or venomous) at all. In fact, it doesn't even bite and poses absolutely no threat to human beings (other than sometimes emitting a foul smell).
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SteyerAUG, Look at my post sir the arachnid you classify as a daddy long legs is actually a harvester an entirely different animal. refer to these links: [url]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Pholcidae/Pholcidae.htm[/url]<--Daddy Long Legs [url]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Opiliones/Opiliones.htm[/url]<--Harvestmen God I'm bored today! Jake
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 2:08:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 2:13:50 PM EDT
GSG9, you got your critters id'ed right. But I grew up calling your Harvestman "daddy-long-legs" or sometimes "grand-daddy-long-legs."
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 2:30:46 PM EDT
I have the solution to your problem. Grab AR, point at spider, fire until mag is empty. Repeat one more time. I'm with whoever said it before. I HATE spiders. little bastards should be dispatched immediately to hell whenever discovered. TERMINATE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. Mike
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 2:37:22 PM EDT
The call the brown recluse spider that, because it's brown (duh) but also because you don't usually see them out in the open. I've read that most people get bitten by them when they're picking up firewood, lumber, or boxes up out of dark basements or sheds.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 3:02:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 3:03:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DakotaKid: I have the solution to your problem. Grab AR, point at spider, fire until mag is empty. Repeat one more time. I'm with whoever said it before. I HATE spiders. little bastards should be dispatched immediately to hell whenever discovered. TERMINATE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. Mike
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I'm going to suck all of them up with a shop vac. I'd probably catch a little flak if the .223 penetrated into the neighbors house. I might let the biggest one stick around so that I can get my jollies by catching insects and tossing them into its web.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 3:05:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DrFrige:
Originally Posted By AlClenin:
Originally Posted By Yankee1911: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock]
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The spiders don't get to me as much as centipedes do. Those thing creep the hell out of me. [img]http://www.snhpc.com/bugs/centipede.jpg[/img]
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DUDE!!! UGH!!! Thanks for reminding me of those ugly bastards! I remember when they used to come out when it was really humid in the summertime in NY. I HATED THEM WITH A PASSION!!! You are lying in bed and see one of those crawling on the wall... forget it..cant go back to sleep...
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If I see one in my bedroom I'm awake until it's dead. Otherwise I'll have to fight through the images of it crawling into my nostril before I can get back to sleep.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 3:15:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2002 3:19:44 PM EDT by toaster]
Pussies.. Burn a couple of their legs off with a bic lighter and toss 'em into a cellar spiders web. Thats entertainment. Edit: Durr, T kant speel..
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 3:30:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 3:41:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/27/2002 3:43:38 PM EDT by toaster]
Originally Posted By DarkHelmet: [ [img]http://www.allstarreview.com/spiders.JPG[/img]
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Beautifull!!! He looks kinda pissed off though.. -T. Jumping spiders are cool!!!
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 4:02:43 PM EDT
If we're gonna start posting heebie jeebie pictures . . . [img]http://a201.g.akamaitech.net/7/201/622/10003436865965/abcnews.go.com/media/Politics/images/rt_janet_reno_010904_nv.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.who.int/infwha52/images/journal/hillary.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9709/06/teresa.mourning/link.clinton.jpg[/img] p.s. sorry for doing that on Memorial Day
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 4:12:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 4:14:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AlClenin:
Originally Posted By Yankee1911: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock]
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The spiders don't get to me as much as centipedes do. Those thing creep the hell out of me. [img]http://www.snhpc.com/bugs/centipede.jpg[/img]
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I absolutely could not agree with you, more.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 4:25:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 4:31:52 PM EDT
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I like posting this pic. [:D] [img]www.ferret50.com/graphics/ferret50_promo_pics/spider1.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 4:34:57 PM EDT
I'll see if I can catch something substantial and toss it in the web of one of them, then get some pictures of the feed.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 4:44:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 4:53:03 PM EDT
Post from DarkHelmet -
And the worst of them all..... The dreaded Cooty!
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[img]http://www.starstogether.tierranet.com/forever/humor01cooties.gif[/img] That's '[u]Mr.[/u] Cooty' to you! [:D] Eric The(Child-like)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 4:58:54 PM EDT
Back in the 70's I lived in a rented trailer on the edge of the woods in Hot Springs, Ark. I was bit by the Brown Recluse 5-6 different times while living there. Each time the area swelled up really bad and after some time started putting a white stringy looking stuff. Pretty gross! Each time I was bit, the effects seemed less, I don't know if you build up a kind of immunity or not.
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 5:10:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AlClenin:
Originally Posted By Yankee1911: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock]
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The spiders don't get to me as much as centipedes do. Those thing creep the hell out of me. [img]http://www.snhpc.com/bugs/centipede.jpg[/img]
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I can recall reading that the Marines on Tarawa had to deal with centipedes that were 3 fingers thick and a foot long. Now, don't go dreaming about that tonight. [;)]
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 5:38:30 PM EDT
All I can say to that is God bless North Dakota's weather. The worst things I've run into there are mosquitos, ticks, poison ivy, rattlesnakes, and black widows (in that order of frequency). Here's the biggest one to be found in north america (according to the site containing the picture). The site says they can get 12 inches long and eat small mammals. [img]http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/USInsects/Sheros.JPG[/img]
Link Posted: 5/27/2002 8:23:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/28/2002 6:32:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DrFrige: Riddle me this Batman: Someone once told me that those centipedes are poisonous. If so, do they bite and inject poison or is it like a scorpion... from the tail end?
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They bite. [url]http://www.earthlife.net/insects/chilopod.html[/url]
The legs on the first body segment are modified into venom bearing fangs that the Centipedes use to hunt their food.
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Link Posted: 5/28/2002 6:54:50 PM EDT
Be careful these spiders love to hag around cardboard boxes.
Link Posted: 5/28/2002 6:55:29 PM EDT
I'd love to see a 12" centipede attack and eat a small kitten.
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