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Posted: 5/15/2002 6:32:29 AM EDT
[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27622[/url]
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 6:52:13 AM EDT
Well, here's PROOF that there's largely apathy or disagreement with the radical Islaamic factions seeking to launch jihad against the US. Even the Arab extremists admit it. Making my sig line all the more relevant. Oh ,and to diffuse the smears against me that are certain to come, if they want jihad, we'll give them freakin' jihad. Nothing would please me more than to PERSONALLY bag a few of these cowards who fly planes into buildings. [sniper]
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 6:58:18 AM EDT
i'm so confused![>:/] arafat's a terrorist, sharon's a terrorist, i just dont know who to believe anymore![whacko] maybe they're [b]ALL[/b] terrorists!
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 7:09:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 7:12:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lurker: i'm so confused![>:/] arafat's a terrorist, sharon's a terrorist, i just dont know who to believe anymore![whacko] maybe they're [b]ALL[/b] terrorists!
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Actually, you raise an important point. As even our own history shows, the men who returned from WW2, Korea and Vietnam were DIFFERENT men than those who left home. The innocence gone, the killing they had seen, endured and participated in, the raw carnage left them indelibly scarred, changed, damaged. And this was after a 5 +/- year conflict. Imagine what a 4,000 year conflict would do to a society. BOTH societies. I can't entirely blame EITHER OF them for their inability to see clearly. But neither would I have confidence in their ability to ever solve the mess either. EITHER of them.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 7:19:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2002 7:28:45 AM EDT by Benjamin0001]
Don't be confused. The US of A is right, everyone else is wrong. See its easy. Here try this for your listening pleasure. Bound to cheer up even the most down in the mouth American. Ben [url]http://64.225.212.11/media/Afghanihunt2.mp3[/url] [url]http://64.225.212.11/media/bin-loser.mpeg[/url] [url]http://www.nationallampoon.com/laden/laden.asp[/url]
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 7:20:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2002 7:32:33 AM EDT by garandman]
Originally Posted By eswanson: While I understand that 2.8 million Palestinians didn't kill anyone yesterday, it's hard for me to have a lot of sympathy for them when 80% support the suicide bombings. (per a poll published in Newsweek a couple weeks ago)
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Didn't the Clinton years teach us that polls are ....bovine feces??? The group sampled, the wording of the questions, the bias of the pollsters, not recording opinions that differ with the pollsters own, the time of day the polling was done.....I could go on and on. We damage our own crebibility when we ONLY use the polls that support our political viewpoint, then criticize others (namely Clinton Democrats) for doing the same.
2.8 million may not have killed anyone, but it may be that 80% of that number are just waiting for their turn.
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So you want to base your US policy on what MAY be true? What IS true is that almost 3 million Palestinians killed NO ONE yesterday. And they NEVER WILL KILL ANYONE. The TRUTH is that the homicide bombers are a MINISCULE faction within palestine. Question: How many Palestinians dwelling in the Occupied Territories do you actually know personally? Lemme guess : NONE. So, where do you get your info re: the truth about the Middle East? The media. The SAME media you've been screaming at for YEARS that has run PURE BIAS against guns, Conservatives, lower taxes, has pushed the homosexual agenda, ran interference for Clinton, advanced Marxism via democrats, which EVEN one of their own, Bernard Goldberg (he's Jewish btw) has said have distorted the news into pure activism. But now you trust that media???? You trust them to give you an accurate picture??? Step back and take a look at teh media you now trust to give you truth re: the middle east.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 7:22:40 AM EDT
garandman: Islam is hardly 4,000 years old. The conflict between Muslims and Jews in "Palestine" is only about 80 years in the making. Do the Palestinians as a conquered people deserve a homeland? If they do, wouldn't that mean that we should be giving the Natives back their land? The end game for the Palestinian terrorists (not necessarily all Palestinians) is [b]no[/b] Israel. They've been offered peace in return for land and recently self-rule many times and have NEVER once kept up their end of the bargain. Tell me exactly why the Israelis should be dealing with people who have a vested interest in completely annihilating them?
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 7:23:18 AM EDT
originally posted by garandman: if they want jihad, we'll give them freakin' jihad. Nothing would please me more than to PERSONALLY bag a few of these cowards who fly planes into buildings.
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Amen! Lets give it to them. garandman, I have a personal request that you go and make a comment in this thread. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=116453[/url] I respect your opinion and would like to hear what you think on this matter. Thanks Bug Splatter.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 7:27:35 AM EDT
Save yourself the aggravation, just lump 'em all in one bag. They either want to kill us or use us. And hey Garandman, who CARES? So some may be innocent, many of those in the WTC were innocent. Many, I'm sure, didn't give a rat's ass about the Palestinians OR the Israelis, but they died, didn't they? Face it, Muslims are evil. Islam is as much a religion as National Socialism was a political party. Get off the PC pony and face facts. As for the Israelis, as far as I'm concerned our involvment with them has only brought me higher taxes and higher gas prices. Some British are old enough to remember the Israelis INVENTED modern terrorism. I shed no tears for either group. The more they kill each other, the fewer American lives lost.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 7:37:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2002 7:44:09 AM EDT by Benjamin0001]
[url]http://www.rock103.com/america/JohnWayneTheFlag.mp3[/url] JOHN WAYNE. [url]http://64.225.212.11/media/day_o.mp3 [/url] [url]http://www.rock103.com/america/rock103.com.thoseabouttofight.mp3[/url] VERY COOL ACDC tune.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 7:50:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Redmanfms: garandman: Islam is hardly 4,000 years old. The conflict between Muslims and Jews in "Palestine" is only about 80 years in the making.
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As I posted to eswanson, the media has created a myopic tunnelvision in you. The conflict here DID NOT begin with Islam. It began when Jewish peoples INITIATED the violence in the region by STARTING a war with teh indigenous peoples of the region, the decendants of Ishmael, commonly known as Arabs. that all startes some 1,500 - 2,000 years BC. Being 2002 AD, I get a total of 4,000 years. Sue me if I'm off 50 years or so.
Do the Palestinians as a conquered people deserve a homeland? If they do, wouldn't that mean that we should be giving the Natives back their land?
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When a 3,000,000 strong band of Cherokees (I happen to be Cherokee) get together and ask for one, we'll take up a vote, OK???? [rolleyes]
The end game for the Palestinian terrorists (not necessarily all Palestinians) is [b]no[/b] Israel. Tell me exactly why the Israelis should be dealing with people who have a vested interest in completely annihilating them?
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Again, your asserion here is shown to be almost completely false, by TWO facts: 1. The FACT that almost 3,000,000 (out of a population of about 3,000,000) Palestinains killed NO ONE yesterday. Or the day before. Or the year before. Or the hundred years before. And won't in the thousand years to come. 2. divdoc's (he's STRONGLY pro-Israel btw) article PROVING the radical militant Islaamics bemoaning the apathy and inaction of the people you claim are trying to annihilate Israel. If they are trying to annihilate Israel, they're going about it the wrong way. In fact, their not going about it at all. Your whole position is based on the DESIRE to lump all Arabs in together, as a monolithic unit, with a unity of opinion, desire, and hatred for Israel and America. While that is useful for launching a "War on Terror" its not true. And misappropriation of the truth has ALWAYS ben a feature of war, but when its a basis for a deliberative US policy, I gotta say something.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 8:05:53 AM EDT
My country, right or wrong, my country.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 8:06:25 AM EDT
I am pro-American.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 8:10:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2002 8:20:49 AM EDT by Redmanfms]
Edited to say simply: garandman, speaketh not about the beliefs of others you knoweth not lest you remove all doubt that you are an egomanical jackass.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 8:15:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 8:16:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2002 8:18:11 AM EDT by Benjamin0001]
Originally Posted By garandman: When a 3,000,000 strong band of Cherokees (I happen to be Cherokee) get together and ask for one, we'll take up a vote, OK????
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Finally after all these months I understand where you are comming from. I apologize to you. My best friend in the whole world is indian. I am not excusing your viewpoint by the way, but I now understand how you view the world partially outside the US. You have your own nation so truly although you are American you are also of the Cherokee Nation. Now everything you have said over these months makes sense.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 8:18:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By raf: Discuss...Fine. Argue.....Fine, too. Personal Insults...No.
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[rolleyes] I think you'd be a little pissed off if some moron rewrote your post so that he could have an egomanical rant. As a matter of fact, you are hardly one to critisize.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 8:20:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 8:22:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By raf: Please cite an instance wherein I employed a personal insult without first being insulted.
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I take somebody rewriting my post to rant about my beliefs (and incorrectly so) as an insult, pardon fucking me.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 8:25:48 AM EDT
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