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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:08:52 AM EDT
what calibre is best for a gun? it should be legal in new york, and it should have a silencer preferably a shotgun. what calibre for ar 15? Thanks! p.s. i already have one but am looking forward to a different one.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:13:09 AM EDT
Move along folks...nothing to see here...nothing to see.[:K]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:13:10 AM EDT
WHAT??????????? [>:/] You want to silence a 12guage AR??? [>:/] Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:16:01 AM EDT
You know, in Vietnam the SEALs used special silenced shotgun ammo.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:17:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/10/2002 9:19:57 AM EDT by mr_wilson]
Believe your mom would be happier if you had one of these: [img]www.supersoaker.com/soakertech/hires/product_images/hidef_6000full.jpg[/img] Mike
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:20:48 AM EDT
Well, the ar15 is .223 caliber. I would be willing to bet that silencers (aka suppressors) are illegal in NY -- at a minimum you have to get a special ATF license and pay a multi-hundred dollar fee to own one. I've never heard of a silencer for a shotgun but apparently DonS has. - CD
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:20:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/10/2002 9:21:57 AM EDT by Boom Stick]
Originally Posted By michaelm: what calibre is best for a gun? it should be legal in new york, and it should have a silencer preferably a shotgun. what calibre for ar 15? Thanks! p.s. i already have one but am looking forward to a different one.
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Michaelm, be aware that you are bran new to this board, and you are asking an illegal question (silencer, legal in new york, etc). You will be recognized as a troll [:K]asking such questions. It souds like your trying to [b]bait[/b] people into giving you illegal advise.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:12 AM EDT
20mm
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:12 AM EDT
Michael, Please post again when sober, or when your meds kick in. Best! [:D]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:39 AM EDT
I've heard that you can put your hand over the end of the shotgun barrel and this will have a silencing effect. However, this will only work twice.............
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:57 AM EDT
How do you feel about gyrojets and carrots?
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:24:17 AM EDT
sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:25:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:27:27 AM EDT
Go to a local gun store and buy a shotgun. Use the in the ear plugs, and muffs and it will suppress the noise.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:27:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By michaelm: sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break.
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Ok then, what exactly do you want this gun to do? Home defence? Target shooting? Your initial questions were all over the place.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:29:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By michaelm: sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break.
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Okay, but what exactly is it that you want to know?? And are you under 21 by chance?? Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:38:00 AM EDT
How about a nice, shiny Bryco in .25? Gotta hold her sideways when shooting, of course, to make the right impression on da bro's...
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:42:24 AM EDT
michaelm, What a hell of a 1st post! [:k]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:53:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By michaelm: p.s. [blue]i already have one[/blue] but am looking forward to a different one.
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Tell us what you already have. We really must know what type...handgun, rifle, shotgun, potato gun, whatever? Inquiring minds want this information...please
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:56:21 AM EDT
Are you a sociology professor? ARH
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 9:57:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/10/2002 10:00:34 AM EDT by LOGAN]
WELL I FEEL ALITTLE BETTER [KILL] NO NO NO PHYSICS [X]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:02:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:18:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:30:19 AM EDT
[b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b] Cool! I want a .9mm AR! That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job...
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:35:21 AM EDT
Michael: You might want to clean up your question and put it in the General Firearm Forum.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:45:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By QBit: [b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b] Cool! I want a .9mm AR! That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job...
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No the conversion also includes the barrel, the hammer and the bolt/carrier. They also have 7.62x36, .22. I've seen 40 cal and of course the .50 ae [:D]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:47:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Vinnie:
Originally Posted By QBit: [b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b] Cool! I want a .9mm AR! That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job...
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No the conversion also includes the barrel, the hammer and the bolt/carrier. [:D]
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QBit was referring to the typo that says point 9 millimeters. .9mm vs. 9mm
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 10:49:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Yankee1911: How do you feel about gyrojets and carrots?
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LOL [:D] Michaelm, Go online and go a search for the Colt M-41A Pulse Rifle. Sounds like that is what your looking for.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 11:16:10 AM EDT
If the silencing part is important, just get any .22lr rifle with a barrel > 24" and shoot CBs. That's as good as you can get in NY i think. -Nuke
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 4:33:31 PM EDT
You guys are just brutal!! LMAO [:)]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 4:39:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Wadman:
Originally Posted By Vinnie:
Originally Posted By QBit: [b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b] Cool! I want a .9mm AR! That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job...
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No the conversion also includes the barrel, the hammer and the bolt/carrier. [:D]
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QBit was referring to the typo that says point 9 millimeters. .9mm vs. 9mm
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oops, ok. I'll shup now.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 7:15:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/10/2002 7:16:41 PM EDT by ColonelKlink]
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 7:35:29 PM EDT
Why isn't there an ar15 upper in 12 gauge. Anybody ever seen one. Sounds like an idea who's time has come. I have dibs on the patent. Question, Is it legal to construct one using common houshold objects, ie, water pipe? remember, I'm talking upper only, with no silencer. Even I know thats illegal as hell
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 12:38:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 12:40:13 AM EDT
What do you need the silencer for?
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 12:43:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By michaelm: thanks all for the help, i was able to get uzi and mac-11 with silencer
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Really now? What area of NY are you located? I'd like to see these for myself...
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 12:53:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:13:20 AM EDT
michaelm, you may want to do a little bit of reading here:[url]http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/statelaws/newyork.pdf[/url]
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:29:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:31:44 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:31:59 AM EDT
it's not really a silencer
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:34:16 AM EDT
yeah, i'm going to delete those posts
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:37:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:37:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:38:07 AM EDT
MichaelM, you make the baby jesus cry.
Link Posted: 5/12/2002 1:41:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 6:43:00 AM EDT
And 10mm, .45acp and various other 'wildcat' calibers.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 10:01:47 AM EDT
C'mon guys give the new guy a break. Don't bother with expensive and government tracked silencers. I get the feeling you are in the home workshop/disposable market. Generally a dixie cup placed over the barrel will disappate a 12ga discharge to under 32db. But I personally don't like this method as it blocks the sights. But the one that is really sweet is the old NAVY SEAL plug of dirt suppression method. Basically you just jam the barrel into the dirt (mud is best) and get a nice clump. This always the sound signature to dissapate before clearing the round out of the barrel. Works like a charm. But you will need a dirt plug thicker than 1" to get complete sound suppression. Don't get caught and don't bring any potential witnesses who can turn on you later.
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 10:08:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/15/2002 10:10:14 AM EDT by The_Macallan]
Originally Posted By SteyrAUG: But the one that is really sweet is the old NAVY SEAL plug of dirt suppression method. Basically you [red]just jam the barrel into the dirt (mud is best) and get a nice clump[/red]. This always the sound signature to dissapate before clearing the round out of the barrel. Works like a charm. But [red]you will need a dirt plug thicker than 1" to get complete sound suppression.[/red] Don't get caught and [red]don't bring any potential witnesses[/red] who can turn on you later.
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Diabolical. Pure evil. [devil] [i]don't you even believe in karma?[;)][/i]
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 10:24:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/15/2002 10:33:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Shadowblade: Your best bet would be to let Waverunner come see what you have and he can set you straight. [:D]
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This has bad-news written all over it, leave me out of it. Properly dispose of your "not really a silencer" and [b]PAY ATTENTION[/b] to all the [red]ridiculous[/red] laws that you should follow in your home state of New York. Or else your ass will end up in some federal prison playing "grab your ankles".
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