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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:13:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Move along folks...nothing to see here...nothing to see.[:K]
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:13:10 AM EDT
[#2]
WHAT??????????? [>:/]
You want to silence a 12guage AR??? [>:/] Sgtar15 |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:16:01 AM EDT
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You know, in Vietnam the SEALs used special silenced shotgun ammo.
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:17:42 AM EDT
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Believe your mom would be happier if you had one of these:
[img]www.supersoaker.com/soakertech/hires/product_images/hidef_6000full.jpg[/img] Mike |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:20:48 AM EDT
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Well, the ar15 is .223 caliber.
I would be willing to bet that silencers (aka suppressors) are illegal in NY -- at a minimum you have to get a special ATF license and pay a multi-hundred dollar fee to own one. I've never heard of a silencer for a shotgun but apparently DonS has. - CD |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:20:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: what calibre is best for a gun? it should be legal in new york, and it should have a silencer preferably a shotgun. what calibre for ar 15? Thanks! p.s. i already have one but am looking forward to a different one. Michaelm, be aware that you are bran new to this board, and you are asking an illegal question (silencer, legal in new york, etc). You will be recognized as a troll [:K]asking such questions. It souds like your trying to [b]bait[/b] people into giving you illegal advise. |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:12 AM EDT
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20mm
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:12 AM EDT
[#8]
Michael,
Please post again when sober, or when your meds kick in. Best! [:D] |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:39 AM EDT
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I've heard that you can put your hand over the end of the shotgun barrel and this will have a silencing effect. However, this will only work twice.............
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:23:57 AM EDT
[#10]
How do you feel about gyrojets and carrots?
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:24:17 AM EDT
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sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break.
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:25:51 AM EDT
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Well I would suggest, from my vast experience and knowledge of AR15/M16 fire control systems that you look specifically for the .50BMG with the 10.5" barrel, threaded to accept the "can" you would need atleast a 14" can to silence. which would give you a 24.5" total barrel length.
Be sure to get a 4X24-50AO Mil-Dot scope with the short eye relief to mount, you want to get maximum site picture. You cannot get the 30 round clips for this gun in NY but I am sur if you look hard enough you can find the 20 round clips. luck, dave |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:27:27 AM EDT
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Go to a local gun store and buy a shotgun. Use the in the ear plugs, and muffs and it will suppress the noise.
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:27:49 AM EDT
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Quoted: sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break. Ok then, what exactly do you want this gun to do? Home defence? Target shooting? Your initial questions were all over the place. |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:29:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break. Okay, but what exactly is it that you want to know?? And are you under 21 by chance?? Sgtar15 |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:38:00 AM EDT
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How about a nice, shiny Bryco in .25? Gotta hold her sideways when shooting, of course, to make the right impression on da bro's...
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:42:24 AM EDT
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michaelm,
What a hell of a 1st post! [:k] |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:53:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: p.s. [blue]i already have one[/blue] but am looking forward to a different one. Tell us what you already have. We really must know what type...handgun, rifle, shotgun, potato gun, whatever? Inquiring minds want this information...please |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:56:21 AM EDT
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Are you a sociology professor?
ARH |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 9:57:26 AM EDT
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WELL I FEEL ALITTLE BETTER [KILL]
NO NO NO PHYSICS [X] |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 10:02:13 AM EDT
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and it should have a silencer preferably a shotgun. what calibre for ar 15? I would have taken you seriously if it wasn't for this. If you are this new, do not buy an assualt weapon. Buy a good old pistol grip Winchester Defender 1300 short barrel shot gun. [img]http://www.gunbroker.com/pixhost/2002-03-03/GUNFINDER.NET_1015300570_42086.jpg[/img] [IMG]http://www.contrabandent.com/cwm/s/contrib/edoom/toilet_claw.gif[/IMG] Oh ! and Welcome Come on in. |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 10:18:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: sorry! i am new to this, please give me a break. Please,give the kid a break and answer his questions if you feel inclined to do so.If not, let someone else do it! Not everyone who is a newbie and asks questions that are "unusual" are trolls.[:)] [b]michaelm,[/b] Silencers are illegal in NYS.Maybe you mean something else. Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm) Shogun calibers are different than rifle calibers.The most common Shotgun calibers(gages)found in shotguns produced now (from larger to smaller diameters) are 12,16,20 and .410 . There are other gages,but you don't see too many of them now(10,28,etc) Now,that wasn't that hard, was it?[:D] .......if[b] Tate [/b]wants to know if AR15 is a good brand and if he can get it for $200...that would be a different story![;)] |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 10:30:19 AM EDT
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[b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b]
Cool! I want a .9mm AR! That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job... |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 10:35:21 AM EDT
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Michael: You might want to clean up your question and put it in the General Firearm Forum.
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Posted: 5/10/2002 10:45:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: [b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b] Cool! I want a .9mm AR! That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job... No the conversion also includes the barrel, the hammer and the bolt/carrier. They also have 7.62x36, .22. I've seen 40 cal and of course the .50 ae [:D] |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 10:47:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: [b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b] Cool! I want a .9mm AR! That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job... No the conversion also includes the barrel, the hammer and the bolt/carrier. [:D] QBit was referring to the typo that says point 9 millimeters. .9mm vs. 9mm |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 10:49:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: How do you feel about gyrojets and carrots? LOL [:D] Michaelm, Go online and go a search for the Colt M-41A Pulse Rifle. Sounds like that is what your looking for. |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 11:16:10 AM EDT
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If the silencing part is important, just get any .22lr rifle with a barrel > 24" and shoot CBs. That's as good as you can get in NY i think.
-Nuke |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 4:33:31 PM EDT
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You guys are just brutal!!
LMAO [:)] |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 4:39:10 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: [b]Most AR15's are 5.56mm (.223caliber) but you will see conversions to other calibers(.9mm)[/b] Cool! I want a .9mm AR! That's got to be one fierce bottlenecking job... No the conversion also includes the barrel, the hammer and the bolt/carrier. [:D] QBit was referring to the typo that says point 9 millimeters. .9mm vs. 9mm oops, ok. I'll shup now. |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 7:15:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: I've heard that you can put your hand over the end of the shotgun barrel and this will have a silencing effect. However, this will only work twice............. Logic dictates that this would only work once, unless you can pull the trigger with your foot and still aim. |
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Posted: 5/10/2002 7:35:29 PM EDT
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Why isn't there an ar15 upper in 12 gauge. Anybody ever seen one. Sounds like an idea who's time has come. I have dibs on the patent.
Question, Is it legal to construct one using common houshold objects, ie, water pipe? remember, I'm talking upper only, with no silencer. Even I know thats illegal as hell |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 12:38:12 AM EDT
[#33]
Good choice, an uzi will kill yo azz fasta den a nine millimeta. [BD]
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Posted: 5/12/2002 12:40:13 AM EDT
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What do you need the silencer for?
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Posted: 5/12/2002 12:43:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: thanks all for the help, i was able to get uzi and mac-11 with silencer Really now? What area of NY are you located? I'd like to see these for myself... |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 12:53:41 AM EDT
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Thanks for playing! [:K]
-Gloftoe |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 1:13:20 AM EDT
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michaelm, you may want to do a little bit of reading here:[url]http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/statelaws/newyork.pdf[/url]
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Posted: 5/12/2002 1:29:57 AM EDT
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michaelm, recommend you delete the other posts and ditch that silencer.
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Posted: 5/12/2002 1:31:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: thank you. i got the guns without paperwork, so there shouldn't be any legal issues. |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 1:31:59 AM EDT
[#40]
it's not really a silencer
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Posted: 5/12/2002 1:34:16 AM EDT
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yeah, i'm going to delete those posts
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Posted: 5/12/2002 1:37:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: it's not really a silencer |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 1:37:49 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted: thank you. i got the guns without paperwork, so there shouldn't be any legal issues. i will double-check Hey cool.... That means I should be able to buy that DIAS over on eBay. No paperwork, no legal issues... Kid... if you are for real you better start looking up laws and take a cutting torch to some of your equipment. Your best bet would be to let Waverunner come see what you have and he can set you straight. [:D] |
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Posted: 5/12/2002 1:38:07 AM EDT
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MichaelM, you make the baby jesus cry.
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Posted: 5/12/2002 1:41:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: MichaelM, you make the baby jesus cry. |
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Posted: 5/15/2002 6:43:00 AM EDT
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And 10mm, .45acp and various other 'wildcat' calibers.
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Posted: 5/15/2002 10:01:47 AM EDT
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C'mon guys give the new guy a break.
Don't bother with expensive and government tracked silencers. I get the feeling you are in the home workshop/disposable market. Generally a dixie cup placed over the barrel will disappate a 12ga discharge to under 32db. But I personally don't like this method as it blocks the sights. But the one that is really sweet is the old NAVY SEAL plug of dirt suppression method. Basically you just jam the barrel into the dirt (mud is best) and get a nice clump. This always the sound signature to dissapate before clearing the round out of the barrel. Works like a charm. But you will need a dirt plug thicker than 1" to get complete sound suppression. Don't get caught and don't bring any potential witnesses who can turn on you later. |
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Posted: 5/15/2002 10:08:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: But the one that is really sweet is the old NAVY SEAL plug of dirt suppression method. Basically you [red]just jam the barrel into the dirt (mud is best) and get a nice clump[/red]. This always the sound signature to dissapate before clearing the round out of the barrel. Works like a charm. But [red]you will need a dirt plug thicker than 1" to get complete sound suppression.[/red] Don't get caught and [red]don't bring any potential witnesses[/red] who can turn on you later. Diabolical. Pure evil. [devil] [i]don't you even believe in karma?[;)][/i] |
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Posted: 5/15/2002 10:24:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: C'mon guys give the new guy a break. Don't bother with expensive and government tracked silencers. I get the feeling you are in the home workshop/disposable market. Generally a dixie cup placed over the barrel will disappate a 12ga discharge to under 32db. But I personally don't like this method as it blocks the sights. But the one that is really sweet is the old NAVY SEAL plug of dirt suppression method. Basically you just jam the barrel into the dirt (mud is best) and get a nice clump. This always the sound signature to dissapate before clearing the round out of the barrel. Works like a charm. But you will need a dirt plug thicker than 1" to get complete sound suppression. Don't get caught and don't bring any potential witnesses who can turn on you later. Truly evil man - I nearly died laughing. I have to meet you at the BRC. You're going right? |
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Posted: 5/15/2002 10:33:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: Your best bet would be to let Waverunner come see what you have and he can set you straight. [:D] This has bad-news written all over it, leave me out of it. Properly dispose of your "not really a silencer" and [b]PAY ATTENTION[/b] to all the [red]ridiculous[/red] laws that you should follow in your home state of New York. Or else your ass will end up in some federal prison playing "grab your ankles". |
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