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Posted: 5/6/2002 7:21:54 PM EDT
Surveillance cameras showed a man (young white male) aiming his rifle at the teller. When LEO's arrived he shot the male and female officers before they returned fire killing him. The clarity of the picture was not the greatest but the weapon was clearly an AR-15/M-16 type. Eye witness identified the weapon as an AK-47.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:31:07 PM EDT
Oh boy, the antis are going to eat this up. Got a link?
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:31:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sloper10: Eye witness identified the weapon as an AK-47.
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Don't they always?
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:32:20 PM EDT
always provide a link.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:34:08 PM EDT
Rut-ro Rorge! What are the chances that something like this is going to happen in the weeks before 9/04.... [rolleyes] Isn't it funny how dozens of bank robberies basically go unnoticed, but when an AR15 is used, all of a sudden it's front page news. Like a bank robbery with a shotgun is okay? (And if the isn't front page news yet, maybe I should STFU! [:)] )
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:35:31 PM EDT
Eye witness identified the weapon as an AK-47.
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Which precisely why eye witnesses are worth dick to investigators and prosecutors. Most eye witnesses disagree, are easily led, and misidentify what they "saw."
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:37:04 PM EDT
http://www.newschannel5.com/
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:39:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sloper10: [url]http://www.newschannel5.com/[/url]
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I'm not a URL natzi, I swear!
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:39:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sloper10: http://www.newschannel5.com/
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[url]www.newschannel5.com[/url]
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:40:56 PM EDT
[url]http://www.newschannel5.com/[/url] Aviator [img]www.milpubs.com/aviator.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:42:06 PM EDT
Wow! The article didnt jump all over the fact that it was a black rifle!
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:42:47 PM EDT
You can also access this at www.wkrn.com. They have a video report with the police commander on the scene describing the events. Apparently this individual had two rifles, and left one of them at the first bank robbery. Bank surveilance clearly shows AR15 type rifle. No report on if he had a different rifle at the other robbery, which may explain the AK-47 reports from some people. Bill3508
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:47:02 PM EDT
Looks like an M4. Please let him be a convicted violent felon or an AWOL soldier with stolen US property. Please, please, please.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:47:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/6/2002 7:49:08 PM EDT by Ponyboy]
[img]http://www.newschannel5.com/news/0205/06/suspect.jpg[/img] [b]So the bank robber has good taste. What's the big deal? Be it an AR or an AK or a single shot bolt action .22LR, they're all "machineguns" or "assault rifles" to the know-nothings.[/b] ***Notice the two mags taped together?***
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:51:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:53:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 7:54:23 PM EDT
More importantly notice he DOESNT have his finger on the trigger. Did he hand out on this board?
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 8:15:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/7/2002 3:47:12 PM EDT by MatthewDaugherty]
By the way he has his magazines taped and one upside down he is definetely a amateur.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 8:22:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/6/2002 8:22:45 PM EDT by dave223]
What an asshole. I cant believe he decided to use an AR to commit (at least one) of these crimes. The idiots are really going to have a field day with that picture as well. Geeez. Dickhead.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 8:41:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By schapman43: Wow! The article didnt jump all over the fact that it was a black rifle!
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Well, they sure seemed clueless though. They have a picture right on the front page showing obviously an AR15, and they say this: "He was carrying a long-gun, either a rifle or a shotgun." Them thar noos guys ar shore smart.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 8:49:34 PM EDT
Orig posted by Matthew:I hope they throw away the key on this low life or public execution would be nice in the town square. I think he did get the public execution in the town square option. He's got coins on his eyes.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 8:52:07 PM EDT
Did it have an evil bayo lug and flash hider? I couldn't tell by the pics. Thats why the gun didn't kill the cops. Cuz it's been stripped of it's evil features. Good job by the LEO's. May they have a fast recovery.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 8:52:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MatthewDaugherty: I hope they throw away the key on this low life or public execution would be nice in the town square.
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Would BURRYING him be considered throwing away the key? [;)] He's dead, the cops killed him in cold blood! [:K] JK!! [;D]
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 8:57:48 PM EDT
Well Its a good thing we banned Bayonets becuase if had one on there he surly would of hurt someone. Also the next this we should ban is Banks. Those places are looking for trouble all that money in one place is trouble waiting to happen.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 8:59:10 PM EDT
By the way is that a dirty sock he used to stick the mags together.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 9:04:21 PM EDT
I guess that I don't think that it's unreasonable to consider this newsworthy: The man robbed two banks, engaged in a "good, old-fashioned gun fight between good guy and bad guy" (at roughly high noon), and was shot down by the police. Doesn't seem to be much emphasis on the gun. Doesn't seem to be much emphasis on the trench coat, either (this is meant to be tragically lighthearted). I guess that aside from the crimes, this story is news worthy due to the outrageous stupidity of the man alone. Haven't seen any mention of this on CNN, nor on any National or international news. Pipe bombs get more attention than AR's, thank heavens. We'll see if there are any knee-jerk reactions in the days to come, and I wouldn't be suprised if there were; but I think that there's no reason to get bent out of shape at this point. Best of luck and wishes of rapid recoveries to anyone affected in this terrible incident.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 9:07:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/6/2002 9:08:49 PM EDT by MatthewDaugherty]
lol I guess between working to much and being focused on the fact that he used an AR15 I forgot all about he is room temperature. Can we drag him around the town square for a while or just hang him in the town square for a while by the sock he tied the magazines together.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 9:35:56 PM EDT
And JUST fot the record.... If/When the ANTIS at work ask....... He WAS using a black [b]AK-47[/b]..... [thinking]
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 10:53:43 PM EDT
FWIW, I wouldn't sweat at all any sort of reaction from anti's here in Nashville as there's practically none at all. Thank goodness. Even the Dem candidate for Gov, former Nashville mayor, has bought ammo from me!!! :) I haven't yet heard all of the details but will provide color as it goes along. Also, the female anchor of the NBC station here is a CCL holder. TN has it a bit better than most states.
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 11:04:43 PM EDT
Nice Headgear [b]So the bank robber has good taste. What's the big deal? Be it an AR or an AK or a single shot bolt action .22LR, they're all "machineguns" or "assault rifles" to the know-nothings.[/b] ***Notice the two mags taped together?***[/quote]
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 11:49:41 PM EDT
looks like a post ban to me
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 11:33:56 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 12:44:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MatthewDaugherty: By the way he has his magazines taped and one upside down he is definetely a amateur
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If they are not held side by side then that's how you would want to do it, actually...
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 1:31:39 PM EDT
I am amazed at how the media here hasn't gone totally anti-gun over this ......yet. One eye witness on the news last PM said "soon as I heard it, I knew it was an automatic weapon" Bozo. The paper in Nashville, The Tennessean, (makes the USA Today look conservative!!!) indentified the rifle as an "automatic rifle". They later said the BATF said it was legally purchased in Kalifornia. Looks like the cops that got shot are going to be ok. They are the first Brentwood cops ever shot. Just goes to show that you can get popped anywhere. Brentwood is an upscale bedroom community just outside Nashville.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 3:57:22 PM EDT
I can not think of one good reason to tape your magazines with one at the other end instead of side by side. First if you got in the prone position you would have problems with clearance between gun and ground. Second, you are exposing the rounds to be in the dirt and other debris. Third you take the chance of damaging feed lips on bottom magazine. Fourth, you take the chance of partially stripping of rounds though unlikely off magazine causing a misfeed. When I was in the Army and everything else I know there is no good reason to have a spare magazine in this fashion as this toad did. In the Army we would put a spare side by side using a dip can in-between magazine and then taking 100mph tape to tape magazines together. There is a right way and a wrong way and he did it the moron way.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 4:13:02 PM EDT
That was an AK-47 with the AR option package: AR buttstock, AR carry handle and sights, AR barrel, AR receiver, AR handguards, and AR magazines. Good thing it was an AK. [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 4:25:42 PM EDT
I heard that POS was wanted in Kalifornia for similar holdups. Probably raised there.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 5:18:12 PM EDT
Note that the two cops were hit in the limbs, and both lived. One is even home already. Although we often like to theorize on this site that the .223 is a real death ray, only a CNS hit will for sure stop an opponent and the round is pretty innefective when there is not enough tissue present for it to tumble. There being less room for error than with some other rounds, accurate shooting is incredibly important with an AR-15. Anyway, I am glad the cops are OK and that the robber is dead.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 5:27:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By marvl: That was an AK-47 with the AR option package: AR buttstock, AR carry handle and sights, AR barrel, AR receiver, AR handguards, and AR magazines. Good thing it was an AK. [rolleyes]
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STOP! you are making my sides HURT! Also, what kinda tape is that on the mags, I never saw white duck tape before?
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 10:00:44 PM EDT
Does anyone besides me think it's unusual for BATF to have completed a trace on a firearm BY THE VERY NEXT DAY? They claim it was legally bought in CA. I thought CA banned all ARs? No doubt this jackass deserved what he got but there seem to be pecularities (SP?) in this. So far, no anti backlash.
Link Posted: 5/7/2002 10:03:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SeaDweller: I heard that POS was wanted in Kalifornia for similar holdups. Probably raised there.
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Hey! Hey! Hey!
Link Posted: 5/9/2002 11:48:53 PM EDT
The latest seems to be this nimrod was a former prison guard. Another sign that Gordon Liddy's correct about guards!!! >gg< Apparently he was also a prime example of "suicide by cop". Authorities are trying to find out why a CA nut chose Nashville to do his thing. Apparently he thought the cops shot better here?
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 6:23:51 AM EDT
Probably an Elvis fan.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 6:36:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By schapman43: More importantly notice he DOESNT have his finger on the trigger. Did he hand out on this board?
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First thing I noticed.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 11:30:24 PM EDT
How about a different spin on this situation? He used an assault weapon in a crime and didn't kill a large number of people and then was himself killed. I guess they can't be as evil as the morons want to lead the sheep to believe.
Link Posted: 5/10/2002 11:43:12 PM EDT
Not only that, but I thought AR's were banned in Kali. Then again, I don't go out of my way to follow Kali "law". I'm just glad the LEO's survived, mostly because I'm glad they survived, but also because if they had been killed the media WOULD be all over this.
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