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Posted: 5/5/2002 8:38:15 PM EDT
... Sure seems that way at times. Nothing wrong in ones pride of heritage but anyone "stopping" into to read threads here surely could consider this site predominately WHITE POWER bigoted. ... Your pretty much fucked here if you are Arab, Mexican, Negro, Asian or French. So I guess you just shouldn't admit it if you are. ... I think it's pathetic and I'm of neither of these backgrounds. [/rant]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:39:39 PM EDT
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I agree with you 100%!!! Well, except for the French part. They suck. Always have, always will.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:40:09 PM EDT
well, if you're unhappy, i heard the democratic underground is looking for a few good members. go PC yourself. flame intended.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:40:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:42:35 PM EDT
Since when has it been wrong to hate the Frogs?
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:43:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Green_Furniture: Since when has it been wrong to hate the Frogs?
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My point exactly. It's almost a duty, isn't it?
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:43:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:44:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2002 8:45:04 PM EDT by maxwell05]
I will give you that there is nothing wrong with being proud of ones heritage. But remember that we all got our a$$es kicked at some time in the past. I am proud first generation American from England, but lets face it the English are the bastards of Europe. I am still proud though.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:50:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By maxwell05: I will give you that there is nothing wrong with being proud of ones heritage. But remember that we all got our a$$es kicked at some time in the past. I am proud first generation American from England, but lets face it the English are the bastards of Europe. I am still proud though.
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ditto. i had some pe. "african american", (BTW where is "african america" anyway?) tell me that my family probably came here in the early 1900's with all the other immigrants, and his family was brought as slaves in the 1700's, thus he wasmore "american" than i was. MY FAMILY ARRIVED BEFORE THE MAYFLOWER!!!
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:51:35 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:51:54 PM EDT
"here you are all equally worthless!!"
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:52:24 PM EDT
I am of German descent... and that's nice. But I am AMERICAN. My fiance is from Taiwan, and will become an American citizen when we are married. Winston, we have a LOT of great people here who are not "white", and a lot of us know about it, and truly respect each other. Let it go, please. Tyler
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:53:13 PM EDT
I highly doubt there are many racist her on AR15.com. I could care less were anyone comes from or what the hell color they are. However, if you live in this country then either you are an American or you aren't!! Those are the type of people who I can't stand! They tote the greatness of their nation but choose to live here!! WTF is up with that?? If their country was so God damn great then why the fuck did they come here?? Sgt(100%Americanandnothingelse)ar15
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:53:37 PM EDT
eesh, i'm asian and have no problem at all We're all united as American's despite our ethnicity. I haven't seen an ounce of racism on this board, (except for ur stereotypical joke stuff)
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:53:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: ... Sure seems that way at times. Nothing wrong in ones pride of heritage but anyone "stopping" into to read threads here surely could consider this site predominately WHITE POWER bigoted. ... Your pretty much fucked here if you are Arab, Mexican, Negro, Asian or French. So I guess you just shouldn't admit it if you are. ... I think it's pathetic and I'm of neither of these backgrounds. [/rant]
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What about the Irish?
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:55:47 PM EDT
My family is fromm Germany and Poland. Sometimes I want to crawl into an oven. Av.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:58:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:59:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Avalon01: My family is fromm Germany and Poland. Sometimes I want to crawl into an oven. Av.
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If you met someone who was Franco-American would you eat them?
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 8:59:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2002 9:54:13 PM EDT by The_Macallan]
I've never seen the words "white power" written in a thread here until this one. Sure, they'll find things like this: "MoslemMaggots" "ni@@er" "gangsta's" "ChiComs" "Jesse (Shakedown) Jackson "Al (Harpoon'em) Sharpton But they'll also find these: "anti-American European Socialists" "liberal POS" "communists" "gun-grabbers" "Hitlery Klinton" "BATF BrownShirts" "Bill F-ing Clinton" "Janet (The Man) Reno" But what they'll MOSTLY see here is this: "AR15" - that's what caught my eye to this site. And this: "freedom" "personal responsibility" "Bill of Rights" "independance" "less Government" "self-reliance" "liberty" "1st Amendment" "2nd Amendment" "private gun ownership" - And these are what made me stay. I'm sorry you feel this way [b]Winston_Wolf[/b]. IMO, if anyone spends more than a few minutes here, they'll know this site is about three things: 1) AR15s 2) Individual Rights and Individual Responsibilities 3) Freedom
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:02:26 PM EDT
Very well put The_Macallan. I think Winston is just upset about the Cinco de Mayo thread and how some of us express or displeasure with people not celebrating being Americans. I guess individual opinions aren't always welcome. Sgtar15
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:04:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:05:49 PM EDT
Well, now you know why the SPLC/ADL have people monitoring and participating on this site. It would not surprise me at all of AR15.com doesn't show up on the next ADL "Hate on the Net" list. Just wait and see what they will say after their "investigators" write their reports about the BRC.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:07:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Gloftoe:
Originally Posted By QCMGR: What about the Irish?
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"Okay, We'll take the ni@@ers and the ch!nks... but we DON'T WANT the IRISH!" -Blazing Saddles Please take this post in the joking way, and movie quoting way it was intended. God bless Mel Brooks' comedy. -Gloftoe
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I'm Dutch!
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:13:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: ... Sure seems that way at times. Nothing wrong in ones pride of heritage but anyone "stopping" into to read threads here surely could consider this site predominately WHITE POWER bigoted. ... Your pretty much fucked here if you are Arab, Mexican, Negro, Asian or French. So I guess you just shouldn't admit it if you are. ... I think it's pathetic and I'm of neither of these backgrounds. [/rant]
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1) What's your point? I mean what really made you decide to post this. 2)Get the fuck over it 3)Don't know what your heritage is and wouldn't have given a damn until now.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:16:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By drjarhead:
Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: ... Sure seems that way at times. Nothing wrong in ones pride of heritage but anyone "stopping" into to read threads here surely could consider this site predominately WHITE POWER bigoted. ... Your pretty much fucked here if you are Arab, Mexican, Negro, Asian or French. So I guess you just shouldn't admit it if you are. ... I think it's pathetic and I'm of neither of these backgrounds. [/rant]
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1) What's your point? I mean what really made you decide to post this. 2)Get the fuck over it 3)Don't know what your heritage is and wouldn't have given a damn until now.
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What he said!
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:17:42 PM EDT
The only times when I've been able to see comments which may be construed as racist are when people are talking bluntly about race relations, which liberal PCers would jump all over. Freedom of speech is alive and well and practiced by many on this board, and that is not to say that people spew racist lingo. However, I have noticed sensitivities among certain groups (Asians), which I find mostly relating to respect of their wishes (to not use the word "Jap") but its still not an epidemic of slurs and cursing. Not to mention, if I felt that this site was racist, I would never in a million years told my black gun control law professor about this site, which he now participates actively on. Sometimes you should save yourself the time of such a pathetic thread, unless you repost other threads which you can show as examples of our horrible attitude. Oh yeah, we also have to many godamn southerners, its all their fault. Frikkin rednecks. If its not them, it sure as hell is the Irish men! [whacko] PS. Does anyone know the ethnicity or GB? I know his name is Juan, but I usually don't like to assume things.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:31:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:44:40 PM EDT
Hell, this place is practically the ACLU headquarters compared to Ass Web or several other gun related message boards I could name. At least here you can answer back to the racists when they show their head.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 9:55:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:00:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2002 10:02:32 PM EDT by MatthewDaugherty]
Out of almost 20,000 members I can not believe we don't have one person of French decent that is also pro freedom and pro firearms. Okay maybe I can believe it. At least we could have a Swiss citizen that speaks French, since French is one of the languages spoken in a large part of Switzerland. I think there is a loophole that one is not prejudiced if one dislikes, harasses, makes fun off, denies one of his or her wine, denies one of deodorant (well they are good at denying themselves of deodorant) steals their women and basically oppresses the French. [>]:)]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:00:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By QCMGR:
Originally Posted By Avalon01: My family is fromm Germany and Poland. Sometimes I want to crawl into an oven. Av.
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If you met someone who was Franco-American would you eat them?
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It would depend on what SHE looks like. Oh, Winston, most of what you see is people tired of certain races having to hyphenate something onto American, people using their race as an excuse for failure, and the double standard of the races who whine the loudest about slurs. Watch TV. Do you hear the N word, chinc, jap, kike? No, but how many times do you hear cracker, whitey, honkey, paleface? How many times do you hear racial slurs aimed at white people such as 'white men can't dance/jump/etc', but if it were ever turned around, there would be hell to pay. If you had the National Association for the Advancement of Caucasian/White People, a White Caucus in Congress, a Miss White America Pageant, a White Mayors Association, A White Police Officers Association, or anything similar, there would be cries of racism. Why isn't the same standard applied to organizations that cater to minorities in the same fashion? If objecting to double standards makes me a racist, then so be it. It seems that race relations have taken a huge step backwards in recent years mainly due to race baiting by people like Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakan, Al Sharpton, and Bill Clinton. I do know that in the 60's, 70's, and 80's that the races got along better, if fact most people got along better, but the aforementioned folks have set things back many years. I was there, I see the difference. The big thing is that Jesse, et al, are the biggest problem for many people, for as long as Jesse and company can continue to make their people believe that they can't make it own their own, without federal help, they (Jesse) will be rich and they will be holding their own folks down, not the white man.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:03:49 PM EDT
It's not so much the racism that's the problem. It's the blind conservatism...lol
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:07:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:11:46 PM EDT
I don't see a problem with this thread , then again 20% of me must hate the other 45% of me .... or is it visaversa ????[>:/]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:13:22 PM EDT
American, of Filipino descent. Oh and I'm Catholic. But who the hell really cares about that kind of info about me anyhow?
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:14:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/6/2002 4:59:09 PM EDT by Kevin]
I have a dream of a day when a man is judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. I no longer put those words in quotes because they came through the Prophet for general use. I am Norwegian if that is at all important. I'm not white. I'm a ni@@ers helper by trade. Only a tyrant hates those beneath him. A patriot hates those that oppress others. The first man baptized into the Spirit by an Apostle after Christ's resurrection was Ethiopan.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:18:38 PM EDT
Yes my mother is full blooded french,I am a half breed. So Therefore I Say ; Parlons d'autre chose. Bob [8D]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:19:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:31:47 PM EDT
I am 1/2 French. My grandparents imigrated here when they were kids. I love all the flogging of the French posts 'cause it's true. But then I'm an American, not a French or Franco - American. If you don't melt into the pot that's where the trouble starts. And if it doesn't fit, you must aquit.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:33:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: ... Your pretty much fucked here if you are Arab, Mexican, Negro, Asian or French. So I guess you just shouldn't admit it if you are. [/rant]
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You forgot to include being Califorian and Catholic. I guess I might as well also include I prefer FALs over AR's [:)]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:40:27 PM EDT
Thank you very much beekeeper you hit the magic button there, In that they are AMERICANS of which are the proverbial melting pot of all races,and religions. That in enough is enough said, now any of you want to post anything less than that ,should post as just what kind of AMERICANS do we not like. The french are pissed because now they may have an elected offical that they don't like and will have to live with that for five years! I say try it for eight years ,then tell me how you feel. Thanks again beekeeper. Bob [8D]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:53:14 PM EDT
jtw2 You sound like a jhonnie Choucren frenche,we loved OJ the ballplayer. Hated OJ the killer,I bathe every day-Oh what the hell. Dont believe all you hear the french have done some really good things,and some we don't even want to mention. Same as the other german,and Irish in me. The german jerks my unwashed french ass into the shower,so as my Irish butt can clean up and head to the bar to get my Irish 1/4 shitfaced. endless cycle. An American Tale Bob [8D]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:53:31 PM EDT
I'm half Arabic, & I've never experienced any problems w/ any of the members here, either before, during, or since 9/11. And whether I do or not in the future, I'm nobody's victim. Or lesser, for that matter. Now, as far as "pride" is concerned, I find it stupid. "Pride" is foolish bravado disguising personal insecurity. If a person needs to rely on a crutch like "pride", they're probably lacking in other areas of their life. "Racial pride" is superficial BS promoted by the whining, squeeky wheels of this modern age. Don't mistakenly conclude that an abscence of "pride" must, therefore, equate to "low (racial, other) self-esteem" - another phoney BS line. It's better to live without feeling the need to go about blowing the horn of pride in another's face. As I see it, the problem with pride is that it usually results in one person turning their nose up at others. Don't go for pride. It's a disease. Instead, consider humility. It's a dying art these days.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 10:56:02 PM EDT
[img]pweb.netcom.com/~mattja/pics/0310fightingwhites.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 11:10:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By grimshaw: I have a dream of a day when a man is judged not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.
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Well said grimshaw, but until people stop concentrating on our differences, and start recognizing our similarities, that day is a long way off.
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 11:13:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/5/2002 11:14:14 PM EDT by odobo]
seems like a fairly diverse group of Americans: [img]http://www.petenelson.com/Photos/Events/Shooting/Web%20Shooters,%209-15-01/Group%20Photo%2001.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 11:15:00 PM EDT
Nice to meet you Master-Blaster ,Takes some real sand to to admit that you are arab descent in these times. But just like you posted,its not all about pride of the wrong kind. But who hasn't dreamed of the arabian knights,midnight on the oais. Even the three kings of orintal. Kind of makes you wonder what kind of shit would happen if somebody found out you were a full blooded indian. Peace Be With You. Bob [8D]
Link Posted: 5/5/2002 11:18:37 PM EDT
Donr You said it all! Bob [8D]
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 1:24:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 2:36:08 AM EDT
Holy shit, men. He's trolling, pure and simple. [:D] He hasn't responded to his own thread since his first post. Usually it's [b]me[/b] who takes the bait and goes off, and you guys who correct me.... LMAO.... What the hell is up with you these days, WW? Are you struggling with something that perhaps, your friends here could help you with? I let my 8 year old daughter claim a screen name, and post a newbie thread in order for her to feel more comfortable going to the BRC. We don't have internet access at home, and I was sitting right beside her when she made her first post, on a [i]Saturday[/i] morning.... Then you brought that up in another thread a few days later, and equated it to me taking her to a [b]bar[/b]? Are you alright man? [shakes head]
Link Posted: 5/6/2002 2:48:36 AM EDT
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