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Posted: 5/3/2002 12:33:33 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/3/2002 12:38:55 AM EDT
Justified if the guy was coming towards him. Excessive force if he was not.
Link Posted: 5/3/2002 1:06:54 AM EDT
He was in a church full of sheeple! Good to go! Liberal bastards trying to stir up a shitstorm. Problem was all the sheeple in the steeple, each probably giving a somewhat differnt version of what went on. I guess he did have a vision after all huh?
Link Posted: 5/3/2002 8:32:15 PM EDT
schv- Sorry, it's not that simple. If the guy was unstable, refusing to drop the knife, and within reach of other churchgoers, the officers could very easily conclude that he was too much of a risk to the other citizens there. What would your response be if the officers had tried reasoning with him some more, only to have him lunge and and injure/kill a bystander? "The cops should have acted sooner!" Here's the problem- handguns don't reliably put people down, especially mentals or folks on drugs. Had he gone for the officers or a bystander, even if they had been able to react in time to shoot him first, there is no guarantee their rounds would stop him before he could kill someone else. Now, if he was in an area where they could cover him and safely evacuate the congregation, they should have (and probably would have), and then locked down the church and brought in the professional negotiators. The article doesn't give us anywhere near enough information to determine what the exact circumstances were. I can pretty much guarantee you that the Attorney General's investigation covered those bases. It's an unfortunate fact that the general public has no idea how dangerous EDP's can be, or how dangerous edged weapons really are. A normal, sane person can close a gap of 21 feet in less than 2 seconds and kill you with a knife before you can draw and fire a handgun. A normal person can conceivably function for 30 seconds or more after being shot in the heart with a handgun. If your wife and daughter were in that church, how much leeway do you want the cops to give the knife-weilding EDP, given those facts? Your statement is simplistic and based in ignorance.
Link Posted: 5/3/2002 8:41:49 PM EDT
Its alright if you want to call a Universalist-Unitarian gathering place a "church", as well as a Hustler porno set, thats a church too, and the block building in the Federal pen where prisoners are executed in Terre Haute is a church, and the U.N. building in New York city is a church, as well as "The Dome of the Rock" in Jerusalem. All "churches". Lots of praying to God going on there!
Link Posted: 5/3/2002 8:43:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/3/2002 8:53:10 PM EDT
Depends on the condition of the heart. Thief on the Cross did not live a godly life until he was in the throes of death. Christ was his defense attorney, and believed his repentance was real. Thats the God ya gotta fake out man! Good luck to ya!
Link Posted: 5/3/2002 8:55:56 PM EDT
I think I just understood what you meant. Does it have any co-relation to why you call yourself "Doublefeed"?
Link Posted: 5/3/2002 9:15:27 PM EDT
Shot 7!!! that's right 7 times while threatening the populace with a 3 1/2 inch knife... give me a break ... the cop should burn!
Link Posted: 5/4/2002 12:18:40 PM EDT
paterpk- Read my previous post- the whole thing. Would you enjoy being in a room with a mental armed with a 3 1/2" knife? The blade on the scalpel a coroner uses to completely dissect the human body is about 1/2 inch long. Unlike some other areas of human interaction, with regard to edged weapons size does not matter. The first man William Bonney ever killed was with the broken stub of a pocket knife. Some of you people really, truly need to get a clue.
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