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Posted: 9/14/2010 8:15:17 PM EDT
What's your take on this?

In the Revolutionary War; did France ultimately save us from defeat? Or did the French Navy realize Britain's situation and simply jump in once the colonists started to knock the British on their heels?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:17:05 PM EDT
[#1]
i'm not a history buff, but I think it's the latter.





ETA:  I have been known to be wrong all the time too...
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:19:33 PM EDT
[#2]
My take is we needed France.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:21:24 PM EDT
[#3]
we probably could have done it without them but it would have taken a lot longer.



i think they were a bit opportunistic in deciding when to jump in, but they did help.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:22:40 PM EDT
[#4]
We would have figured it out eventually.

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:23:04 PM EDT
[#5]
it would have happened sooner or later. The French certainly made it easier.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:23:44 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


My take is we needed France.






 
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:29:55 PM EDT
[#7]
French Navy did blocked access to Yorktown which lead to Corn(hole)wallace to surrender.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:30:13 PM EDT
[#8]
No.





As much as we love to rag them, we wouldn't have gotten our start without them.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:32:04 PM EDT
[#9]
Yes, but in the same way Canada is free, not from the revolution.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:33:57 PM EDT
[#10]



Quoted:


What's your take on this?



In the Revolutionary War; did France ultimately save us from defeat? Or did the French Navy realize Britain's situation and simply jump in once the colonists started to knock the British on their heels?


The French and Prussians were critical to our winning the war.



Without them, we would not have been able to seal the deal...





 
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:35:18 PM EDT
[#11]
France was crucial and, despite them being rather silly sometimes, they are, in my opinion, our greatest ally.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:46:39 PM EDT
[#12]
Quite emphatically, no.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:49:44 PM EDT
[#13]
Washington's resources were stretched pretty thin, actually "barely hanging on" would be an accurate description, and without France's help, Washington would've been toast.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:53:57 PM EDT
[#14]
Marquis de Lafayette
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:58:36 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
My take is we needed France.


Very much so.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 9:00:47 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
France was crucial and, despite them being rather silly sometimes, they are, in my opinion, our greatest ally.


Link Posted: 9/14/2010 9:26:50 PM EDT
[#17]



Quoted:


France was crucial and, despite them being rather silly sometimes, they are, in my opinion, our greatest ally.
They may have been at the time, but today the UK is by far our greatest ally.  





 
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 9:29:03 PM EDT
[#18]





Quoted:



No.
As much as we love to rag them, we wouldn't have gotten our start without them.
We needed France.
 
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 10:15:39 PM EDT
[#19]



Quoted:



Quoted:

France was crucial and, despite them being rather silly sometimes, they are, in my opinion, our greatest ally.






The France that was our ally, died on the guillotine, thanks to a highly distorted attempt to follow our 'example'



 
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 10:20:21 PM EDT
[#20]
with aan ocean between us our break away from Europe was imminent.  The couldn't have wone THAT war without them though.





I think we paid them back in full with WW2 though so fuck em.
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