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Posted: 9/14/2010 2:08:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/15/2010 6:43:27 AM EDT by sixnine]
I was listening to Rush blast a single issue voter today. The guy votes D because they do more for animal rights than R's. Rush pointed out that you have to forget the little issues in the upcoming elections because if we don't get back on the right track, this country will be ruined forever. He's right RINO's may have to get a free pass this time because if we split the vote this country will have no chance to be saved. Look at what's happened in just 18 months since the election. Even if we don't get the person we want after the primaries, we have to support the R's. I fucking hate RINO's but we must take power back from the D's if this country is to survive.

ETA: I reread what I posted. Rush never said to give RINO's a free pass. I didn't mean to say they should get one either. I got ahead of myself. We have to boot the RINO's out in the primaries, but who ever goes on from the primary must be supported. The GOP is being infiltrated by the Tea Party. If a RINO squeaks through, we can vote them out next time. Sorry for the confusion.

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Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:10:38 PM EDT
There are really people that base their vote on 'animal rights' ???? What a fucking dumbass.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:10:49 PM EDT
I think I've heard this story before.


Terrible ending.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:15:38 PM EDT
It's my vote and my voice.. I vote my conscience and my values.. I WILL NOT vote for a Republican that doesn't represent my conservative values... I have vote for the lesser of two evils in the past and will not EVER do it again


For those of you who are going to rip me for this, I will just say you vote your way and I will vote mine..
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:15:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2010 2:17:07 PM EDT by Dr_Dickie]
Voting for RINOS IS what got us to where we are today!
Obama is president, because there were too many RINO republicans for the 8 years they ran Congress and the republicans ran a RINO against Obama.
Voting for RINOS just because they have a R next to their name will not fix what is wrong in this country.
It is not about Ds and Rs, it is about American's and socialists.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:17:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Voting for RINOS IS what got us to where we are today!
Obama is president, because there were too many RINO republicans for the 8 years they ran Congress and the republicans ran a RINO against Obama.
Voting for RINOS just because they have a R next to their name will not fix what is wrong in this country.
It is not about Ds and Rs, it is about American's and socialists.


AMEN!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:19:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2010 2:21:23 PM EDT by Plattekill]
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Voting for RINOS IS what got us to where we are today!
Obama is president, because there were too many RINO republicans for the 8 years they ran Congress and the republicans ran a RINO against Obama.
Voting for RINOS just because they have a R next to their name will not fix what is wrong in this country.


And voting for Democrats, even conservative Democrats, or 3rd party candidates, or not voting at all, will make things WORSE. Perhaps irreparably.

Other things need to be done to fix the country, but first we need to at least slow the slide down. This is a 30 year war; it needs to be fought for a generation, there are NO quick fixes by voting for a man on a white horse. That is the problem!
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:20:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sixnine:
I was listening to Rush blast a single issue voter today. The guy votes D because they do more for animal rights than R's. Rush pointed out that you have to forget the little issues in the upcoming elections because if we don't get back on the right track, this country will be ruined forever. He's right RINO's may have to get a free pass this time because if we split the vote this country will have no chance to be saved. Look at what's happened in just 18 months since the election. Even if we don't get the person we want after the primaries, we have to support the R's. I fucking hate RINO's but we must take power back from the D's if this country is to survive.

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Are you kidding?

Half the "R or nothing" contingent on this board thinks you should vote for the RINO in the primary or else you're "splitting" the vote.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:21:04 PM EDT
Meh.

I dont care who is in the white house, just keep your hands off my guns, your religion out of my government, and do something about the dying middle class.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:21:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
I think I've heard this story before.


Terrible ending.


It's how Klinton got elected in '92.........
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:22:06 PM EDT
I hate RINO's vote your conscience in the primaries, get you candidate on the ticket. Once the primaries are over are you honestly willing to risk the next 4 to 6 years on these assholes staying in control of this country. I hate it, but the alternative is to terrible to think of.

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Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:22:32 PM EDT
Never again will I vote for the lesser of two evils... The RINO's are fucking us up the ass just like the D's are except they use lube and whisper in our ears. I don't think so.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:23:16 PM EDT
Wait, so since we can't afford to let a democrat win, we have to let someone who will vote exactly the same way the democrat would run as a republican?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:24:14 PM EDT
Remember what happened when we did that last time? Obama and Nacy Pelosi along w/Dingy Harry happened. RINOS will sell you out in a heart-beat and spend money like I spend money on Evil Black Rifles.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:25:05 PM EDT
At this point, "splitting the vote" is the least of my concerns.

If you don't support small government and low taxes, I'll just stay home and let the bad guys win.

As others have said, choosing the lesser of two evils has put us in the jackpot that we find ourselves in today.

I refuse to be a part of it anymore.

Who was it that said, "Withdrawing in disgust is not the same as apathy"?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:25:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Recorderguy:
Never again will I vote for the lesser of two evils... The RINO's are fucking us up the ass just like the D's are except they use lube and whisper in our ears. I don't think so.

Completely Agree!
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:25:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Voting for RINOS IS what got us to where we are today!
Obama is president, because there were too many RINO republicans for the 8 years they ran Congress and the republicans ran a RINO against Obama.
Voting for RINOS just because they have a R next to their name will not fix what is wrong in this country.
It is not about Ds and Rs, it is about American's and socialists.


This.

Voting for a RINO is no different from voting democrat. If the RINO wins, they think they won because that is the type of politician we want in office and more get pushed in front of us.


I realize that I won't agree with a candidate on every issue but I'm done voting for the lesser of two evils.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:26:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2010 2:29:34 PM EDT by Dr_Dickie]

Originally Posted By Plattekill:
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Voting for RINOS IS what got us to where we are today!
Obama is president, because there were too many RINO republicans for the 8 years they ran Congress and the republicans ran a RINO against Obama.
Voting for RINOS just because they have a R next to their name will not fix what is wrong in this country.


And voting for Democrats, even conservative Democrats, or 3rd party candidates, or not voting at all, will make things WORSE. Perhaps irreparably.

Other things need to be done to fix the country, but first we need to at least slow the slide down.
Believe what you want.
As long as you are willing to vote for RINOS because they have an R next to their name, you will only have RINOS to vote for.
We tried voting against the Democrats for 20 years (since Reagan), and it only made the opposition against socialism weak, and allowed the RINOS to take over the republican party.
They only way to have someone to VOTE FOR, is if the Republicans stand up for America and the Constitution, otherwise all you get is a different letter after their name that is asking you to bend over.

Don't get me wrong, I don't pay that much attention to the little issues; but I am not voting for someone that I disagree with 80% of the major issues (like McCain) again, I did it for 20 years and it did not work.
To continue to do what you know doesn't work, is insane.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:26:49 PM EDT
I vote my conscience in the primary.

If my guy doesn't win that primary, what am I supposed to do after that? Not vote? Write in Mickey Mouse?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:27:39 PM EDT


NO MORE RINOS!!!!
EVAR!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:27:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sixnine:
I hate RINO's vote your conscience in the primaries, get you candidate on the ticket. Once the primaries are over are you honestly willing to risk the next 4 to 6 years on these assholes staying in control of this country. I hate it, but the alternative is to terrible to think of.

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Yes you are right. The alternative is too terrible to think of.

The alternative is a RHINO voting exactly the same way a democrat would've voted.


People are allowed to do stupid things, but not in my name.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:28:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
I think I've heard this story before.


Terrible ending.

Winner. That kind of thinking is what has gotten us into this whole mess. A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:28:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sixnine:
I was listening to Rush blast a single issue voter today. The guy votes D because they do more for animal rights than R's.

Obviously this guy is a douche.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:31:28 PM EDT
I think the Tea Party republicans have enough momentum to not have to worry about splitting the vote. This isn't an instance of Perot taking 10% away from Bush or Buchanan taking 2% away from the other Bush.

Also I think a lot of RINO supporters are closeted Tea Party goers.

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:32:07 PM EDT
Well, lets see, can't vote for a RINO, no point in voting for an unelectable third-party candidate. Fuck it, this time I'm just going vote Democrat and be done with it. No point in doing things half assed.

Jane
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:33:18 PM EDT
Nowadays the Republican party sucks. However they are not actively trying to completely destroy America like the democrats are doing.

I am going to vote for whomever has the best shot of defeating the democrats. Make absolutely no mistake, democrats are America's true enemy.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:34:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Partisan:
There are really people that base their vote on 'animal rights' ???? What a fucking dumbass.


There are people who base their vote on fucking hair styles.

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:35:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Voting for RINOS IS what got us to where we are today!
Obama is president, because there were too many RINO republicans for the 8 years they ran Congress and the republicans ran a RINO against Obama.
Voting for RINOS just because they have a R next to their name will not fix what is wrong in this country.
It is not about Ds and Rs, it is about American's and socialists.

You nailed it.

When the Republicans run a weak candidate, THAT is exactly what causes a split vote. They need to run a true conservative that people can feel good about voting for, and you'll see a lot less throw-away votes.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:36:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
I think I've heard this story before.


Terrible ending.

This.

My vote is not split, my vote is for liberty.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:51:15 PM EDT
Motherfuckers say that shit every fucking election. I, for one, am fucking sick of it. /rant
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:53:28 PM EDT
Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 2:59:03 PM EDT
He was being sarcastic when he said that.

In fact, He gave about a 10 minute speach, on today's show, about how we SHOULD NOT do that. About how thats how we got into the mess that we're in right now.


I will never vote lessor of two evils again.

I felt dirty as all after voting for McCain.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:01:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sixnine:
I was listening to Rush blast a single issue voter today. The guy votes D because they do more for animal rights than R's. Rush pointed out that you have to forget the little issues in the upcoming elections because if we don't get back on the right track, this country will be ruined forever. He's right RINO's may have to get a free pass this time because if we split the vote this country will have no chance to be saved. Look at what's happened in just 18 months since the election. Even if we don't get the person we want after the primaries, we have to support the R's. I fucking hate RINO's but we must take power back from the D's if this country is to survive.

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If your "single issue" that determines your vote is animal rights, I sincerely doubt you are a conservative and would consider anything but a Dem.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:02:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
It's my vote and my voice.. I vote my conscience and my values.. I WILL NOT vote for a Republican that doesn't represent my conservative values... I have vote for the lesser of two evils in the past and will not EVER do it again


For those of you who are going to rip me for this, I will just say you vote your way and I will vote mine..

Just vote for a Dem and get it over with.


Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:02:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Silas:
He was being sarcastic when he said that.

In fact, He gave about a 10 minute speach, on today's show, about how we SHOULD NOT do that. About how thats how we got into the mess that we're in right now.


I will never vote lessor of two evils again.

I felt dirty as all after voting for McCain.


Who would you rather have in there now,McCain or Obama?

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:03:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Voting for RINOS IS what got us to where we are today!
Obama is president, because there were too many RINO republicans for the 8 years they ran Congress and the republicans ran a RINO against Obama.
Voting for RINOS just because they have a R next to their name will not fix what is wrong in this country.
It is not about Ds and Rs, it is about American's and socialists the Washington Political Class.


AMEN!!!!!!!
Fixt.

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:03:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Partisan:
There are really people that base their vote on 'animal rights' ???? What a fucking dumbass.

same as here.

so people on this site wouldn't vote for SuperJesusReagan if he was moderatly antigun/prochoice/not anti-gay/etc. never mind his stance on everything else.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:05:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By sixnine:
I was listening to Rush blast a single issue voter today. The guy votes D because they do more for animal rights than R's. Rush pointed out that you have to forget the little issues in the upcoming elections because if we don't get back on the right track, this country will be ruined forever. He's right RINO's may have to get a free pass this time because if we split the vote this country will have no chance to be saved. Look at what's happened in just 18 months since the election. Even if we don't get the person we want after the primaries, we have to support the R's. I fucking hate RINO's but we must take power back from the D's if this country is to survive.

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I would rather the Dems have the keys in their hands when the thing burns down. Let's get this over with before I get too old to fight.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:05:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Well, lets see, can't vote for a RINO, no point in voting for an unelectable third-party candidate. Fuck it, this time I'm just going vote Democrat and be done with it. No point in doing things half assed.

Jane


I am afraid you are being a little too subtle for this crew.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:05:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TC6969:
Originally Posted By Partisan:
There are really people that base their vote on 'animal rights' ???? What a fucking dumbass.


There are people who base their vote on fucking hair styles.



...or skin color.


Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:05:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa:

Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
It's my vote and my voice.. I vote my conscience and my values.. I WILL NOT vote for a Republican that doesn't represent my conservative values... I have vote for the lesser of two evils in the past and will not EVER do it again


For those of you who are going to rip me for this, I will just say you vote your way and I will vote mine..

Just vote for a Dem and get it over with.




Or vote for McCain again, feel better about yourself that you didn't vote (D), all the while sticking a knife in the heart of America.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:06:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Voting for RINOS IS what got us to where we are today!
Obama is president, because there were too many RINO republicans for the 8 years they ran Congress and the republicans ran a RINO against Obama.
Voting for RINOS just because they have a R next to their name will not fix what is wrong in this country.
It is not about Ds and Rs, it is about American's and socialists.

5 to 4.

That's the only thing that matters anymore.

Remember who has been put in the SCOTUS and imagine who will go in the next open seat.

5 to 4.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:07:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2010 3:08:53 PM EDT by Silas]
Originally Posted By roadrash:
Originally Posted By Silas:
He was being sarcastic when he said that.

In fact, He gave about a 10 minute speach, on today's show, about how we SHOULD NOT do that. About how thats how we got into the mess that we're in right now.


I will never vote lessor of two evils again.

I felt dirty as all after voting for McCain.


Who would you rather have in there now,McCain or Obama?



Honestly, Obama.

McCain would not have woken the country up. He would have kept us going downhill but at a slower pace.

And that crap about "cutting off your nose to spite your face" is propaganda to keep the rinos in power.

Voting your conscious is never a wasted vote.

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:08:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2010 3:10:31 PM EDT by Schadenfreuda]

Originally Posted By Silas:

I felt dirty as all after voting for McCain.

Unfortunately, we had no input as to him being our "R" candidate.

Originally Posted By roadrash:

Who would you rather have in there now,McCain or Obama?


Obama.

McCain would have been a longer, slower AND MUCH WORSE death march to where we are now.

Obama has (almost) instantly let America see what has happened, and forced the Tea Parties into action.


Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:09:57 PM EDT
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY OTHER THAN I WANT IN OFFICE. Anyone who wishes to deride me for this may cordially puff on BoBo.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:11:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By learath:
Wait, so since we can't afford to let a democrat win, we have to let someone who will vote exactly the same way the democrat would run as a republican?


That's how I read it.


Definition of Logical Fallacy

A logical fallacy is an element of an argument that is flawed, essentially rendering the line of reasoning, if not the entire argument, invalid.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:19:11 PM EDT
voting for a democrat will cost you ten dollars
voting for a rino will cost you five dollars.
voting for a conservative will cost you one dollar.

The only rule is we keep playing until you're broke.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:20:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PlaneJane:
Well, lets see, can't vote for a RINO, no point in voting for an unelectable third-party candidate. Fuck it, this time I'm just going vote Democrat and be done with it. No point in doing things half assed.

Jane

you know... sometimes the express is faster...
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:20:35 PM EDT
I voted my conscience today in the primarys,come November I am voting for anyone with an R after their name I dont give a fuck who they are.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:21:08 PM EDT
It's not me splitting the vote, it's everybody that votes different from me.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 3:21:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By roadrash:
Originally Posted By Silas:
He was being sarcastic when he said that.

In fact, He gave about a 10 minute speach, on today's show, about how we SHOULD NOT do that. About how thats how we got into the mess that we're in right now.


I will never vote lessor of two evils again.

I felt dirty as all after voting for McCain.


Who would you rather have in there now,McCain or Obama?


Obama, he's rallying the tea parties. McCain woudl never have sparked that movement even though he would have bailed out everyone just as fast...
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