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Obama, he's rallying the tea parties. McCain woudl never have sparked that movement even though he would have bailed out everyone just as fast...
 

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Obama, he's rallying the tea parties. McCain woudl never have sparked that movement even though he would have bailed out everyone just as fast...
 

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Are you kidding?  



Half the "R or nothing" contingent on this board thinks you should vote for the RINO in the primary or else you're "splitting" the vote.

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And voting for Democrats, even conservative Democrats, or 3rd party candidates, or not voting at all, will make things WORSE. Perhaps irreparably.

Other things need to be done to fix the country, but first we need to at least slow the slide down. This is a 30 year war; it needs to be fought for a generation, there are NO quick fixes by voting for a man on a white horse. That is the problem!

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you know... sometimes the express is faster...
 

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Obama, he's rallying the tea parties. McCain woudl never have sparked that movement even though he would have bailed out everyone just as fast...

 

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Really,do you think he would have pushed socialized medicine,or appointed the same justices as Obama?

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He also had his own "we'll tax your health care as income plan" that would have sailed through with little or no resistance. The R party can do no wrong crowd repeatedly assured me that it would never pass...yet we have something worse now.

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We'll see how 'good' the TEA Party folks do this election... How many 'Deb Medina' types, vs how many like that guy from Alaska, who's actually a good candidate?

This lady in Deleware? She's another Deb Medina - except that instead of being a truther, she's a tax cheat (possible tax-denier, ergo the belief that only 4k of her income is taxable) and fails to pay her employees....


 

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 I haven't seen this. Source? I know she only reported about 6k in income for a 15 month period, and sold her house to a campaign staffer to avoid an IRS lein.

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Source is Mike Medved's radio show this afternoon...

Apparently, she failed to pay the salaries of her campaign staff from her last campaign - and both her past campaign managers are publicly calling her a fake who's only in it for the money & power - and saying she owes them salary....

She 'explained' the 4k in income for an entire year, by stating that she had 'other income that she didn't have to report' (as we know, the current tax code does not allow for this)....

She also seems to have been using campaign contributions as personal income to pay personal bills...

And to have filed a frivalous lawsuit claiming that she was fired 'for being a woman', from the only 'real' job she's ever had (employer was a conservative think-tank, and they say she was fired for poor attendance)....

Looks like you called the 'lack of personal financial responsibility, dead spot on, MTX... You were absolutely, positively right!

 

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Unfortunately, we had no input as to him being our "R" candidate.


Obama.

McCain would have been a longer, slower AND MUCH WORSE death march to where we are now.

Obama has (almost) instantly let America see what has happened, and forced the Tea Parties into action.


 

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The decline of America will continue. Who's going to save us? Mitt Romney? Glenn Beck.



When conservatives are no longer just as fucking stupid as liberals, if not more so, let me know. Until then I will remain bitter and call it for what it is.





It's over. Happens to all great societies.



Again, I'd like to thank my parent's generation for this. Kick ass fucking job guys! Burn another bra, the free to be you and me mentality works great.

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I understand the anger and frustration, I'm far from happy.  United we stand, divided we fall, sound familiar? This is not the time to teach the R's a lesson, we'll be lucky to survive as a nation with what has transpired already. We have to stand together now, if only to buy us time to run off the rest of the RINO's.  
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I understand the anger and frustration, I'm far from happy.  United we stand, divided we fall, sound familiar? This is not the time to teach the R's a lesson, we'll be lucky to survive as a nation with what has transpired already. We have to stand together now, if only to buy us time to run off the rest of the RINO's.  Look at it this way, I would rather have a RINO vote for us 60-70% of the time (or better) than to have a Dem vote against us 80-90% of the time.

Letting this country burn to the ground out of spite is not the answer.  If we don't stand together, we will be damned together.  The road we're on has a split in it ahead of us. We are either going to go right or left, the middle is not an option, not turning is not an option,  if we don't all pull to the right, this country will swing to the left for a long, long time.

The next two elections could be the most important elections in our lifetime. We can police our own after the battle, but we need every R we can get right now. The Tea Party is going to take over the GOP, just like socialists/communists took over the Dems.  RINO's are already feeling the heat. They know if they aren't reborn conservative,  somebody can and will take their place. Hell, D's are trying so hard to sound conservative right now you would think that they are from the Tea Party.

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No, way man just keep voting for the Republicans.  They're totally going to turn this thing around some day.  Your great-great-grandchildren will definitely be free if you just trust them.


I'd seriously love someone to explain to me the sequence of events that is going to lead from John McCain as their candidate to someone who can stand up on live TV and say "I will not increase the funding for the Department of Education while I'm in office" and not be instantly laughed out of the race.  Not cut, mind you, just not increase.  Oh, and the explanation can't involve magic, fairy dust, or "we just need to like convince people man."
 

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It smelled like bullshit. I was hoping there was some legitimate explanation, but it looks like maybe there isn't one. I'm going to go hit google and see if I can find this mentioned anywhere else.



ETA: just a thought, but isn't the death tax non applicable right now, as in zero dollars? That's the only thing I can think of as a legitimate(but possibly confused) claim of "didn't have to report".



ETA2: first relevant hit on "Christine O'Donnell doesn't pay taxes" was HuffPo. Here's a link to politico(don't know how good of a source they are, I don't keep up with credibility ratings) http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42141.html

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politico.com was Medved & Bose' source for the info, IIRC.....

Of course HuffPo has it too - they'd love nothing more than to run against someone like this...


 

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Considering you don't vote or do anything else to further conservatism in this country, who really gives a fuck what you think?  You are no different than some liberal basement blogger.  All you do is complain on the internet.  You have claimed you would prefer anarchy.  Move to Somolia then or STFU.

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We'll see how 'good' the TEA Party folks do this election... How many 'Deb Medina' types, vs how many like that guy from Alaska, who's actually a good candidate?

This lady in Deleware? She's another Deb Medina - except that instead of being a truther, she's a tax cheat (possible tax-denier, ergo the belief that only 4k of her income is taxable) and fails to pay her employees....


 

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I ran a few searches and didn't come up with much. Seemed like the two or three sites i found all had the exact same story.

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THIS is what fucks us. Democrats don't discriminate against tax cheating lunatics on their side, that's how they get their numbers. The Dems always hold us to standards that they never apply to themselves, why? Because that's how we let them beat us! I'm sick of us trying to play this game and allowing them to make up the rules as we go. Remember the Tea party is in it's infancy, it needs time to mature.  Right now we have to survive, and if that means a few scumbags slip through the moral cracks, we can deal with them later.



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Why travel when I can stay here and watch the rest of you burn it all down?
 

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You know deep down that you would never survive in the type of country you hope for.  You prefer safety over freedom.  Anyone who self describes themselves as an anarchist in the United States says that with no real weight.  Why?  Because you know you'll never have to survive in anarchy.  So keep complaining behind your keyboard and spouting your BS.

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It's my vote and my voice.. I vote my conscience and my values.. I WILL NOT vote for a Republican that doesn't represent my conservative values... I have vote for the lesser of two evils in the past and will not EVER do it again


For those of you who are going to rip me for this, I will just say you vote your way and I will vote mine..

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I won't rip you. I'll agree. If we vote a bunch of liberals into office just because they have an R next to their name, what exactly did we a ccomplish? A fucking lib is a lib. If they are part of the republican party, they are still alib. I'll vote for conservatives. I don't give a damn what party they are from.

Bottom line, we need CONSERVATIVES, in ofice. Party is almost irrelevant.

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THIS is what fucks us. Democrats don't discriminate against tax cheating lunatics on their side, that's how they get their numbers. The Dems always hold us to standards that they never apply to themselves, why? Because that's how we let them beat us! I'm sick of us trying to play this game and allowing them to make up the rules as we go. Remember the Tea party is in it's infancy, it needs time to mature.  Right now we have to survive, and if that means a few scumbags slip through the moral cracks, we can deal with them later.

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I was listening to Rush blast a single issue voter today. The guy votes D because they do more for animal rights than R's. Rush pointed out that you have to forget the little issues in the upcoming elections because if we don't get back on the right track, this country will be ruined forever. He's right RINO's may have to get a free pass this time because if we split the vote this country will have no chance to be saved. Look at what's happened in just 18 months since the election. Even if we don't get the person we want after the primaries, we have to support the R's. I fucking hate RINO's but we must take power back from the D's if this country is to survive.

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Source is Mike Medved's radio show this afternoon...

Apparently, she failed to pay the salaries of her campaign staff from her last campaign - and both her past campaign managers are publicly calling her a fake who's only in it for the money & power - and saying she owes them salary....

She 'explained' the 4k in income for an entire year, by stating that she had 'other income that she didn't have to report' (as we know, the current tax code does not allow for this)....

She also seems to have been using campaign contributions as personal income to pay personal bills...

And to have filed a frivalous lawsuit claiming that she was fired 'for being a woman', from the only 'real' job she's ever had (employer was a conservative think-tank, and they say she was fired for poor attendance)....

Looks like you called the 'lack of personal financial responsibility, dead spot on, MTX... You were absolutely, positively right!

 

15 In contemplating the causes, which may disturb our Union, it occurs as matter of serious concern, that any ground should have been furnished for characterizing parties by Geographical discriminations, Northern and Southern, Atlantic and Western; whence designing men may endeavour to excite a belief, that there is a real difference of local interests and views. One of the expedients of party to acquire influence, within particular districts, is to misrepresent the opinions and aims of other districts. You cannot shield yourselves too much against the jealousies and heart-burnings, which spring from these misrepresentations; they tend to render alien to each other those, who ought to be bound together by fraternal affection. The inhabitants of our western country have lately had a useful lesson on this head; they have seen, in the negotiation by the Executive, and in the unanimous ratification by the Senate, of the treaty with Spain, and in the universal satisfaction at that event, throughout the United States, a decisive proof how unfounded were the suspicions propagated among them of a policy in the General Government and in the Atlantic States unfriendly to their interests in regard to the mississippi; they have been witnesses to the formation of two treaties, that with Great Britain, and that with Spain, which secure to them every thing they could desire, in respect to our foreign relations, towards confirming their prosperity. Will it not be their wisdom to rely for the preservation of these advantages on the union by which they were procured? Will they not henceforth be deaf to those advisers, if such there are, who would sever them from their brethren, and connect them with aliens?

20 I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the state, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party, generally.

21 This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

22 The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

23 Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

24 It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

25 There is an opinion, that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the Government, and serve to keep alive the spirit of Liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in Governments of a Monarchical cast, Patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in Governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And, there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be, by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.

26 It is important, likewise, that the habits of thinking in a free country should inspire caution, in those intrusted with its administration, to confine themselves within their respective constitutional spheres, avoiding in the exercise of the powers of one department to encroach upon another. The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus to create, whatever the form of government, a real despotism. A just estimate of that love of power, and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart, is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of this position. The necessity of reciprocal checks in the exercise of political power, by dividing and distributing it into different depositories, and constituting each the Guardian of the Public Weal against invasions by the others, has been evinced by experiments ancient and modern; some of them in our country and under our own eyes. To preserve them must be as necessary as to institute them. If, in the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way, which the constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for, though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. The precedent must always greatly overbalance in permanent evil any partial or transient benefit, which the use can at any time yield.

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No, way man just keep voting for the Republicans.  They're totally going to turn this thing around some day.  Your great-great-grandchildren will definitely be free if you just trust them.


I'd seriously love someone to explain to me the sequence of events that is going to lead from John McCain as their candidate to someone who can stand up on live TV and say "I will not increase the funding for the Department of Education while I'm in office" and not be instantly laughed out of the race.  Not cut, mind you, just not increase.  Oh, and the explanation can't involve magic, fairy dust, or "we just need to like convince people man."
 

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Michael Medved, another wannabee, phoney liberal Babyboomer hippie that turned conservative when the money got bad being a liberal in the late 70's.

Medved preaches conservatism according to Mike and personally enjoys getting people worked up like a weasely little kid.

I can totally see how you like him.

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You know deep down that you would never survive in the type of country you hope for.  You prefer safety over freedom.  Anyone who self describes themselves as an anarchist in the United States says that with no real weight.  Why?  Because you know you'll never have to survive in anarchy.  So keep complaining behind your keyboard and spouting your BS.

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Not really.  Any "conservative" with a "D" next to their name will fall in line when Pelosi or Reid orders them to.  The only time they seem like they are going against the party is election time when they get a "pass."

Like it or not the Republican Party is still the only hope this country has.

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And the bosses son chimes in about survival, just sayin'

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I understand the anger and frustration, I'm far from happy.  United we stand, divided we fall, sound familiar? This is not the time to teach the R's a lesson, we'll be lucky to survive as a nation with what has transpired already. We have to stand together now, if only to buy us time to run off the rest of the RINO's.  Look at it this way, I would rather have a RINO vote for us 60-70% of the time (or better) than to have a Dem vote against us 80-90% of the time.

Letting this country burn to the ground out of spite is not the answer.  If we don't stand together, we will be damned together.  The road we're on has a split in it ahead of us. We are either going to go right or left, the middle is not an option, not turning is not an option,  if we don't all pull to the right, this country will swing to the left for a long, long time.

The next two elections could be the most important elections in our lifetime. We can police our own after the battle, but we need every R we can get right now. The Tea Party is going to take over the GOP, just like socialists/communists took over the Dems.  RINO's are already feeling the heat. They know if they aren't reborn conservative,  somebody can and will take their place. Hell, D's are trying so hard to sound conservative right now you would think that they are from the Tea Party.

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I know nothing of this individual, which is why I went searching. It looks to me like he ran with a story someone else published. Like I said in a previous post, I don't keep up with credibility ratings for news sources.

Can you elaborate?

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Then this country has no hope because the Republican party has been impotent for 15 years. I understand you are new to this and excited, but the Republican party is tearing itself apart at the seams and if they are our only hope, we are fucked.

Are you even remotely aware of how much the Republican party spent from 2000-2006?

And if you will, tell me what seperates the two parties.

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Voting for RINOS IS what got us to where we are today!

Obama is president, because there were too many RINO republicans for the 8 years they ran Congress and the republicans ran a RINO against Obama.

 

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And you take another cheap shot even though I told you I am self employed.  All over the fact I choose not t wer the same footwear you do on a jobsite

I started out working for my dad out of high school to learn the business and then started my own company.

So take that chip you always carry on your sholder and go shove it up your ass, douchebag.

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New to this?  Tell me - what acess if any do you have to party leadership at any level or peple who are capable of donating big money?  None.  That's what I thought.

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I keep hearing people complain about RINO's, but I can't help but think that all these politicians you all are calling RINO's are just Republicans being Republicans.  I'm afraid the GOP may not be what you wish it were.  If someone is not a real conservative, they will not get my vote.

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Huh. I was just saying it's tough to comment on survival when you are in your 20's, wear $160 running shoes to job sites and work for your Dad.

I didn't expect the onslaught of personal attacks, but holy shit do you have the defense mechanism.