Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login
Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Posted: 9/14/2010 7:18:13 AM EDT
I love hearing these stories of corporate espionage and thievery. The latest posted on Kotaku:

You Shouldn't Trust EVE Online Players




That's not meant as a slight against the game's playerbase. You shouldn't trust anyone involved with the handling of large amounts of cash, whether they play massively-multiplayer online games or not.

A player by the name of "Bad Bobby" has shafted the space combat and trading game out of credits worth around USD$45,000 after pulling off what amounts to a robbery of a massive in-game investment fund.

He pulled it off by getting to the top of the fund legitimately, working for years as a trustworthy investor. Then, when he'd helped set up the massive fund of around 850,000,000,000 of EVE's in-game currency, he set in motion a plan to steal it all.

The fund was protected by a board of trustees, who controlling 50% of the vote could theoretically block any attempts by Bobby to make a run for the cash. But they hadn't counted on Bobby working silently in the background adding more dummy trustees, which he was actually controlling, and when he'd created enough so that he controlled over 50% of the board's vote, he kicked everyone else off, took the money and ran.

Sucks for those who invested in the company, but hey, it's just a game. And stories like this, which involve the planning and treachery of real crimes only without the real consequences, are what makes EVE such a fascinating community.



Funny how CCP's latest trailer was in regards to just this.





Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:20:46 AM EDT
Nerds?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:21:44 AM EDT
And yes, that fake money has a real world value.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:23:03 AM EDT
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:27:16 AM EDT
This is part of the game...and some people have WAY too much time on their hands.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:29:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.


So many reasons to slap someone for buying money.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:31:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.

People pay real money to get into Disneyland. Others pay real money for KY Jelly and internet porn. It's called "entertainment dollars" and people make their own choices where to spend theirs just as you make the decision how to spend yours.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:35:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2010 7:36:10 AM EDT by Disintegr8or]
I don't get it....did the guy get real money or fake money?
What can he do with fake money if that is what he got?

Edit: Damn, I go on vacation for one week and my membership expires.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:37:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Disintegr8or:
I don't get it....did the guy get real money or fake money?
What can he do with fake money if that is what he got?

It's not really 'fake' money when it holds real world value.

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:38:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2010 7:38:45 AM EDT by klinc]

Originally Posted By Disintegr8or:
I don't get it....did the guy get real money or fake money?
What can he do with fake money if that is what he got?

Edit: Damn, I go on vacation for one week and my membership expires.


He stole fake currency in the game that will sell for real dollars in the real world to other poeple so they don't have to take the time to make their own in game money.

Buying in game money with real world money happens in about every game of this type.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:38:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.

People pay real money to get into Disneyland. Others pay real money for KY Jelly and internet porn. It's called "entertainment dollars" and people make their own choices where to spend theirs just as you make the decision how to spend yours.


Exactly. I spend money on some really stupid shit some times.
However, it's my money. I earned it, and I'll spend it as I please.

I actually thought this story was pretty cool.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:38:40 AM EDT
So any players relate how much money that is in game?

Why can't they just make more money and refund the other players and block the other guys IPs?? Or would inflation be way to crazy on that amount?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:39:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By marcushire:
So any players relate how much money that is in game?

Why can't they just make more money and refund the other players and block the other guys IPs?? Or would inflation be way to crazy on that amount?


The article states this clearly at least twice.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:40:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By marcushire:
So any players relate how much money that is in game?

Why can't they just make more money and refund the other players and block the other guys IPs?? Or would inflation be way to crazy on that amount?

Because CCP the games creator does nothing about and actually promotes this type of in game behavior.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:40:34 AM EDT
Lessons learned: Don't trust a guy named Bad Bobby.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:41:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By marcushire:
So any players relate how much money that is in game?

Why can't they just make more money and refund the other players and block the other guys IPs?? Or would inflation be way to crazy on that amount?


What do you think this is a real life government?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:42:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Slavac:
Originally Posted By marcushire:
So any players relate how much money that is in game?

Why can't they just make more money and refund the other players and block the other guys IPs?? Or would inflation be way to crazy on that amount?


The article states this clearly at least twice.


Sorry, didn't click link. Thought it was just the same as what was posted.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:43:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.

People pay real money to get into Disneyland. Others pay real money for KY Jelly and internet porn. It's called "entertainment dollars" and people make their own choices where to spend theirs just as you make the decision how to spend yours.
That changes how spending real money for currency in a video game is retarded how?

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:45:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By klinc:

Originally Posted By Disintegr8or:
I don't get it....did the guy get real money or fake money?
What can he do with fake money if that is what he got?

Edit: Damn, I go on vacation for one week and my membership expires.


He stole fake currency in the game that will sell for real dollars in the real world to other poeple so they don't have to take the time to make their own in game money.

Buying in game money with real world money happens in about every game of this type.
Ah-ha, I see now.


Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:45:29 AM EDT
I don't think this is the first time something like that has happen in EVE. The funny thing is it will probably take his longer to convert that 850 million ISK in to real cash than it did to carry out this operation.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:45:48 AM EDT
I don't playthis stuff but have read about it.
Some states have tried to figure a way to tax in game transactions since it is exchange of real money.
There are "games" with real virtual stores you can visit/browse/make purchases. Clothes, music, ect.
"Goldmining" is also an interesting offshoot industry.
Also funny are criminal "gangs" who find lone geeks in the games and rob them off all their goods in exchange for leaving the character "alive".
It gets more real every day. Pretty interesting.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:46:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:

Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.

People pay real money to get into Disneyland. Others pay real money for KY Jelly and internet porn. It's called "entertainment dollars" and people make their own choices where to spend theirs just as you make the decision how to spend yours.
That changes how spending real money for currency in a video game is retarded how?



Spending money I can use in the real world to buy money I can use in a video game isn't retarded.

Breaking EULA, fucking up the in game economy, potentially giving gold farmers your account information... those things are retarded.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:51:38 AM EDT
I also had read some guys destroyed several (real) thousand dollars worth of in-game money pulling off some kind of raid on a banking ship, where the money comes from in the game or whatever...

I don't care to play, but I do appreciate these little "The present is weirder than any imagined sci-fi future" situations.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:51:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Credge:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:

Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.

People pay real money to get into Disneyland. Others pay real money for KY Jelly and internet porn. It's called "entertainment dollars" and people make their own choices where to spend theirs just as you make the decision how to spend yours.
That changes how spending real money for currency in a video game is retarded how?



Spending money I can use in the real world to buy money I can use in a video game isn't retarded.

Breaking EULA, fucking up the in game economy, potentially giving gold farmers your account information... those things are retarded.
Not trying to be mean to you, but I think it is retarded.

Sounds like a new thread with a poll is in order.

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:54:03 AM EDT
nothing wrong with gold farming..
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:54:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.

People pay real money to get into Disneyland. Others pay real money for KY Jelly and internet porn. It's called "entertainment dollars" and people make their own choices where to spend theirs just as you make the decision how to spend yours.


My ex gf bought all the lube, and the pronz is free
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:55:25 AM EDT
Some people REALLY need to get laid.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:57:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:

Not trying to be mean to you, but I think it is retarded.

Sounds like a new thread with a poll is in order.


If you played the game your reasoning might be different.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:57:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:

Originally Posted By Credge:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:

Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.

People pay real money to get into Disneyland. Others pay real money for KY Jelly and internet porn. It's called "entertainment dollars" and people make their own choices where to spend theirs just as you make the decision how to spend yours.
That changes how spending real money for currency in a video game is retarded how?



Spending money I can use in the real world to buy money I can use in a video game isn't retarded.

Breaking EULA, fucking up the in game economy, potentially giving gold farmers your account information... those things are retarded.
Not trying to be mean to you, but I think it is retarded.

Sounds like a new thread with a poll is in order.



So I take it you don't spend your money on anything fun?

Or, are you unfamiliar with how these games work?

Spending $5 for 1k gold or spending a month getting the gold... sure sounds like the smart thing to do.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:02:26 AM EDT
I can't believe people didn't learn their lesson the first time this happened. Never trust any player that you can't easily track down and beat the crap out of.

As for the real world value, CCP has an item called PLEX that can be purchased using in game currency or real world currency, thereby allowing a conversion that won't get you banned.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:05:04 AM EDT
I wonder how many "dummy" accounts this guy had to pull this off. Spending $15 per month per account on multiple accounts is far more retarded than spending $30 on some in game currency that might last you a month or two.

IMO buying currecny is only retarded if you keep doing it because you suck at the game. When I played EVE I bought currency to 1)have enough start up captial to buy a good ship so I can start earning some money in game instead of shooting rocks hours on end for several months before I had enough to buy a good ship. 2) Back when I was playing it was cheaper to buy ISK from a farmer then use those credits to buy a game time card from a player(who bought it with his own cash) but I looks like the market has stabled out in that area.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:13:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
IMO buying currecny is only retarded if you keep doing it because you suck at the game. When I played EVE I bought currency to 1)have enough start up captial to buy a good ship so I can start earning some money in game instead of shooting rocks hours on end for several months before I had enough to buy a good ship. 2) Back when I was playing it was cheaper to buy ISK from a farmer then use those credits to buy a game time card from a player(who bought it with his own cash) but I looks like the market has stabled out in that area.

When you lose a multi-billion-ISK ship sometimes you just don't feel like grinding to get it back. Ask me how I know.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:13:18 AM EDT
Willing to bet "Bad Bobby" could've made alot more real money at a real job in the hours he wasted on this.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:16:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:

Originally Posted By Credge:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:

Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By ShogunOfHarlem:
I almost slapped a friend of mine in the face when he told me he paid real money to buy gold in World of Warcraft.

Nerds.

People pay real money to get into Disneyland. Others pay real money for KY Jelly and internet porn. It's called "entertainment dollars" and people make their own choices where to spend theirs just as you make the decision how to spend yours.
That changes how spending real money for currency in a video game is retarded how?



Spending money I can use in the real world to buy money I can use in a video game isn't retarded.

Breaking EULA, fucking up the in game economy, potentially giving gold farmers your account information... those things are retarded.
Not trying to be mean to you, but I think it is retarded.

Sounds like a new thread with a poll is in order.



Have you ever used real money to buy the right to download software?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:16:51 AM EDT
So it doesn't matter where you go, online or real world, people will try to screw you? Good to know.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:19:53 AM EDT
DAMNNNN, he topped the Murder Incorporated event.

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:27:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ox6603:
Willing to bet "Bad Bobby" could've made alot more real money at a real job in the hours he wasted on this.

He probably has a real job and plays EVE for fun dude.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:34:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By marcushire:
So any players relate how much money that is in game?


A metric asston. The ship I fly is worth around 750 million ISK, and it's a very expensive ship; most people can't afford to fly them. He stole enough ISK to buy my ship 1200 times over.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:37:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tekka:
DAMNNNN, he topped the Murder Incorporated event.


Haha I remember the Guiding Hand Social Club, that was epic.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:39:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tekka:
DAMNNNN, he topped the Murder Incorporated event.


That's a pretty wild story.

My only question is, how could a new player even become involved with a game that dense?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:42:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By runcible:

My only question is, how could a new player even become involved with a game that dense?

Name yourself Innominate Nightmare, become the richest most popular player in the game.

Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:45:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kalmar:

Originally Posted By runcible:

My only question is, how could a new player even become involved with a game that dense?

Name yourself Innominate Nightmare, become the richest most popular player in the game.


Once again, in English, please.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:48:36 AM EDT
so will he go to innerweb prison?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:53:06 AM EDT
Shit- go join Second Life if you want to see some serious cams. The Linden Dollar in game is pegged to a consortium of real world money to figure out its value. They can be sold back to Linden for cash.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:57:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By runcible:

Originally Posted By Kalmar:

Originally Posted By runcible:

My only question is, how could a new player even become involved with a game that dense?

Name yourself Innominate Nightmare, become the richest most popular player in the game.


Once again, in English, please.

A relatively new player decided to set off into deep space piloting nothing but an unarmed shuttle - a death sentence for anyone that would attempt this. He not only survived the trip, but made several chance encounters, one thing led to another and before long he had become one of the richest single players in the game.

He blogged about his adventures which are hilariously described in detail at http://00experiment.blogspot.com/
It's quite an entertaining read even for non-eve players. No one knows what happened to Innominate though, he suddenly disappeared around 2007 or so. His legend will live on forever.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:58:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
Lessons learned: Don't trust a guy named Bad Bobby.



I feel bad for Bad Bobby. Sure, he successfully stole 10s of thousand$ of dollars from other players. But his reputation in the game is ruined and that's something he has to live for the rest of his life! I mean, it's not like he can just create a new character and start over.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 9:00:10 AM EDT
Back in the day when Everquest was the big dog, there was a lot of money to be had selling in-game items. It was amazing how much money some people would spend on their characters but I didn't mind selling it to them.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 9:03:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By runcible:

Originally Posted By Tekka:
DAMNNNN, he topped the Murder Incorporated event.


That's a pretty wild story.

My only question is, how could a new player even become involved with a game that dense?


Where other games generally have something like a learning curve, EVE is most often described as having a "learning cliff." Generally, the best way to get in is to have a friend that can show you the ropes. Barring that, join the in-game corporation EVE University, which is based on teaching new people.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 9:07:41 AM EDT
I don't understand these massive multiplayer games. You hang out for months with a group of people online, but you don't get to know them well enough to know they are all just plants to take over your organization? Do they get so cought up in their character that they ignore real life?

I'm part of a big online community for FPS games, and I have some good friends there that I've made over the years. We know each other outside the game. I guess these MMORPGs get so wrapped up in the characters they can do stuff like this.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 9:08:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 9:15:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/14/2010 9:18:17 AM EDT by junkxp]
Originally Posted By offshorebear:
I don't understand these massive multiplayer games. You hang out for months with a group of people online, but you don't get to know them well enough to know they are all just plants to take over your organization? Do they get so cought up in their character that they ignore real life?

I'm part of a big online community for FPS games, and I have some good friends there that I've made over the years. We know each other outside the game. I guess these MMORPGs get so wrapped up in the characters they can do stuff like this.


Several of the people in my corp and alliance are friends in real life including me.




Someone asked about how a noob can get started. It's rather easy you just start an account and play. It's kinda lame at first but as you train sp you'll have more fun and eventually find a corp and things like making isk will be alot easier.
Arrow Left Previous Page
Page / 2
Top Top