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Posted: 9/13/2010 3:20:42 PM EDT
Pinal County grandfather shoots 2 burglary suspects

A Pinal County grandfather shot two alleged burglary suspects inside an Arizona City home.

The sheriff's office says 58-year-old John Miller was babysitting his grandchildren early Sunday when he heard a noise.


He went to investigate and detectives say he confronted two teenagers who entered through the garage.

A confrontation ensued and Miller shot both intruders.

An 18-year-old was treated for a non-life threatening injury and a 16-year-old is listed in critical condition at Maricopa Medical Center.

The sheriff's office said no charges are expected to be filed against Miller because he feared for his safety and that of his grandchildren.

Both teens will be charged with burglary upon their release from medical care, the sheriff's office said.

Nice shoot John Miller!
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:22:59 PM EDT
Hopefully that'll learn em.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:23:02 PM EDT
Here is hoping the bad guys croak. Good for Cramps.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:24:04 PM EDT
His lawn.

Get off it.

Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:28:02 PM EDT
Problem is, both sets of parents will sue Grandpa out of his retirement.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:28:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2010 3:29:27 PM EDT by Shockergd]

Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Problem is, both sets of parents will sue Grandpa out of his retirement.


Is that possible in AZ under current law?




Also , is this the same shooting that has been mentioned on the board a few times now , the one where the LEO was quoted in saying something like 'Don't rob people in AZ , you might get shot' or something to that effect?
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:29:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Shockergd:

Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Problem is, both sets of parents will sue Grandpa out of his retirement.


Is that possible in AZ under current law?



No. Arizona is not Illinois.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:30:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Problem is, both sets of parents will sue Grandpa out of his retirement.


Can't do that in Ohio. Next of kin do not get to file suit.

Castle doctrine FTW.

Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:32:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By omega62:
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Problem is, both sets of parents will sue Grandpa out of his retirement.


Can't do that in Ohio. Next of kin do not get to file suit.

Castle doctrine FTW.


Most states that have passed castle doctrine, or similar laws very clearly state that you can not be sued for a justifiable homicide or self defense case. Interestingly enough , CA is that way too.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:34:28 PM EDT
Once again, you can thank Harry Fish for this happy situation:

http://www.haroldfishdefense.org/
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:36:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Shockergd:

Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Problem is, both sets of parents will sue Grandpa out of his retirement.


Is that possible in AZ under current law?

Also , is this the same shooting that has been mentioned on the board a few times now , the one where the LEO was quoted in saying something like 'Don't rob people in AZ , you might get shot' or something to that effect?

"People in Arizona carry guns," said Detective David Ramer, a Chandler police spokesman. "You better be careful about who you are picking on."


http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/09/05/20100905chandler-shooting-two-dead.html

Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:39:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AR4U:
Originally Posted By Shockergd:

Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Problem is, both sets of parents will sue Grandpa out of his retirement.


Is that possible in AZ under current law?



No. Arizona is not Illinois.


I knew there had to be something else I liked about AZ.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 3:44:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Airwolf:

Originally Posted By Shockergd:

Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Problem is, both sets of parents will sue Grandpa out of his retirement.


Is that possible in AZ under current law?




Also , is this the same shooting that has been mentioned on the board a few times now , the one where the LEO was quoted in saying something like 'Don't rob people in AZ , you might get shot' or something to that effect?

"People in Arizona carry guns," said Detective David Ramer, a Chandler police spokesman. "You better be careful about who you are picking on."


http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/09/05/20100905chandler-shooting-two-dead.html



No, I posted that article your speaking of last week and this a completely different one that happened either today or yesterday. in the last 3 weeks there has been 5 pieces of shit shot with 3 of them dieing in justified shootings and these are just from the ones i have read on AZcentral, not sure if there have been others that haven't been publicized. Here's my last 2 threads of the other shootings: AZ good guys have been busy cleaning the streets!!!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1087647


http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1086058
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 5:46:35 PM EDT
That would be a good shoot in CA based on the info presented..........

Brian
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 5:55:10 PM EDT
Love my state, minus the invasion...
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 6:07:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BillyDoubleU:
Love my state, minus the invasion...


Good point! I definitely rather we wouldn't be forced to use our firearms against others at all, but good to know our state and media will back us up if we have to defend ourselves.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 6:07:49 PM EDT
Old Dudes –– don't fuck with 'em. They're too old too fight and will just kill you or fuck you up.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 6:11:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By grumpy-old-man:
Old Dudes –– don't fuck with 'em. They're too old too fight and will just kill you or fuck you up.


Goes right along with the adage "Old age and treachery will defeat youth and enthusiasm".

Go Old guys!
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 6:13:09 PM EDT
That's my sheriff. If you watched the video, he says at the end, when things are all sorted out, this guy should get a medal.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 6:45:43 PM EDT
Good for him. Hopefully those fuck heads get their shit straight. At 16 I was more interested in pie then I was at robbing someone.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 9:03:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 65fsbk:
Originally Posted By BillyDoubleU:
Love my state, minus the invasion...


Good point! I definitely rather we wouldn't be forced to use our firearms against others at all, but good to know our state and media will back us up if we have to defend ourselves.


Yeah, I think the bulk of the state has grown very tired of the 'sympathizers'.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 9:16:13 PM EDT
too bad he will get raped in the civil suit
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 9:42:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Badlatitude:
too bad he will get raped in the civil suit


13-413. No civil liability for justified conduct

No person in this state shall be subject to civil liability for engaging in conduct otherwise justified pursuant to the provisions of this chapter.

ARS 13-413
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 9:49:41 PM EDT
Love AZ more and more each day.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 10:14:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 65fsbk:
Pinal County grandfather shoots 2 burglary suspects

A Pinal County grandfather shot two alleged burglary suspects inside an Arizona City home.

The sheriff's office says 58-year-old John Miller was babysitting his grandchildren early Sunday when he heard a noise.


He went to investigate and detectives say he confronted two teenagers who entered through the garage.

A confrontation ensued and Miller shot both intruders.

An 18-year-old was treated for a non-life threatening injury and a 16-year-old is listed in critical condition at Maricopa Medical Center.

The sheriff's office said no charges are expected to be filed against Miller because he feared for his safety and that of his grandchildren.

Both teens will be charged with burglary upon their release from medical care, the sheriff's office said.

Nice shoot John Miller!


, Lucky little scum bags.


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