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Posted: 9/13/2010 11:25:51 AM EDT
Do you think it's Tier 1?



Mexico lauds capture of top drug lord as violence ...

A US-made M4 assault rifle with a mounted M-203 grenade launcher who belonged to Edgar Valdez Villareal, aka 'La Barbie', of the Beltran Leyva drug cartel, is shown to the press at the Federal Police headquarters in Mexico City. Mexican authorities paraded a top drug lord in public, presenting his capture as a much-needed victory in the growing battle against the country's vicious traffickers
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:29:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2010 11:29:50 AM EDT by M4wheeler]
Someone else can probably look closer, but I think I can see that third pin in there...So while it's US made, it's not US bought.

Edit- this was with zoom on paint, too busy to look closer.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:30:01 AM EDT
That's a real deal HEDP round, unless it is inert, but I doubt it.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:30:54 AM EDT
His little friend; say hello to it.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:31:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2010 11:31:55 AM EDT by USMC6177]
How much you wanna bet that came from a Mexican Military source?
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:32:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:32:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By USMC6177:
How much you wanna bet that came from a Mexican Military source?

'bout tree-fiddy (pesos).
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:33:05 AM EDT
Select-fire M4 with 40mm M203 and HEDP rounds?

Clearly purchased at a Texas gun show.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:33:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By USMC6177:
How much you wanna bet that came from a Mexican Military source?


Or maybe even Columbia.

Shit, is it so hard to believe that they might have Norincos straight from China?
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:34:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PBIR:

Originally Posted By USMC6177:
How much you wanna bet that came from a Mexican Military source?

'bout tree-fiddy (pesos).


Get off my Arfcom ya damn Loc Ness Monsta
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:35:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
He got it from the mexican .gov.

not according to the Oblama Justice Dept.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:38:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By metalsaber:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
He got it from the mexican .gov.

not according to the Oblama Justice Dept.


the "/not terrorism" guys?
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:42:04 AM EDT
Well if they are coming from here, namely gun shows I want a name so i can get an M4 w/ 203 and an HE round
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:43:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2010 11:43:38 AM EDT by uxb]
Originally Posted By BUDUKO:
Originally Posted By USMC6177:
How much you wanna bet that came from a Mexican Military source?


Or maybe even Columbia.

Shit, is it so hard to believe that they might have Norincos straight from China?


I'm going for Nicaragua or El Salvador as the origin.

Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:44:48 AM EDT
When I first saw that picture I thought it was a macro photograph of a GI Joe M16.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:45:13 AM EDT
We left something like 700,000 M16's in Viet Nam, and they've been selling them ever since.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:46:38 AM EDT
What's with the cardboard display box?
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:48:24 AM EDT
I would be willing to bet that the US gov. is the biggest supplier of guns to narco terrorists. via most of Central America and Mexican military.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:48:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Not_so_Clever:
What's with the cardboard display box?


Its Mexico.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:49:33 AM EDT
Wouldn't be surprised if a certain infantry company is missing an M4 from it's inventory.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:49:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Not_so_Clever:
What's with the cardboard display box?


It's Mexico, cardboard adds that extra touch of "classy"...





Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:50:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By USMC6177:
How much you wanna bet that came from a Mexican Military source?


duh, we give mexico all sorts of crap that they can use against us.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:50:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Wouldn't be surprised if a certain infantry company is missing an M4 from it's inventory.


?
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:52:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Foxnews_FTW:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Wouldn't be surprised if a certain infantry company is missing an M4 from it's inventory.


?

Soldiers have smuggled weapons and equipment and sold them to civilian buyers. Hell, when I was in a Cab one day, one of the guys in the car I was riding with with a CID investigator or something, don't remember exactly. Was telling us about him catching a soldier trying to sell hmmwvs and shit.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:52:29 AM EDT
Firing a M203 from a DPMS would have destroyed the rifle. Anything less than tier 1 couldn't stand up to that much awesomeness!
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:52:56 AM EDT
not a real M4

the carry handle is A2 ( not removable) and the rail is not a KAC M4 RAS it some other comapny so I doubt its from out mil
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:53:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
not a real M4

the carry handle is A2 ( not removable) and the rail is not a KAC M4 RAS it some other comapny so I doubt its from out mil


"Bring me the gun of Scarface!"
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:54:03 AM EDT
You can pretty much buy M203's over the counter at Wal-Mart in America.

Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:56:04 AM EDT
That weapon walked out of a Mexican Military Armory.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:56:34 AM EDT
It is amazing, half the public thinks you can't own a m16 at all (with or without nfa registration) and the other half thinks the Mexicans are buying them in pawn shops this side of the border.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:57:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By smaddox:
It is amazing, half the public thinks you can't own a m16 at all (with or without nfa registration) and the other half thinks the Mexicans are buying them in pawn shops this side of the border.

The left has control of much of the media, it's not too difficult to imagine.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:57:41 AM EDT
DO WANT !!
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:58:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
He got it from the mexican .gov.


Wait a few days and the PTB will claim he got it a "gun show" using "the loophole."
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:58:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By By_the_Bayonet:
When I first saw that picture I thought it was a macro photograph of a GI Joe M16.


Ditto. Looks like a toy and is packaged like a toy. What's up?
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 11:58:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By BUDUKO:
Originally Posted By USMC6177:
How much you wanna bet that came from a Mexican Military source?


Or maybe even Columbia.

Shit, is it so hard to believe that they might have Norincos straight from China?


I'm going for Nicaragua or El Salvador as the origin.





And there you have it, they could be from anywhere, but that does not fit the agenda so by default they are from American gun shows.

Everything is American, right down to the RPG-7's.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 12:01:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Not_so_Clever:
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
not a real M4

the carry handle is A2 ( not removable) and the rail is not a KAC M4 RAS it some other comapny so I doubt its from out mil


"Bring me the gun of Scarface!"



And thats not even Scarfaces' gun, his was the M16 with the old school heat shields.

He probably just picked the coolest looking one of the bunch.
Link Posted: 9/13/2010 12:12:42 PM EDT
only 2 mags??
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 5:24:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TheGerman:
only 2 mags??


and only 40+1 rounds.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 5:25:53 AM EDT

steel mags?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 5:31:16 AM EDT
I wonder when they'll capture La Ken?
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 5:46:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
I wonder when they'll capture La Ken?


La Ken and La Skipper are on the run.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 6:01:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Deadeye_Jack:
Originally Posted By By_the_Bayonet:
When I first saw that picture I thought it was a macro photograph of a GI Joe M16.


Ditto. Looks like a toy and is packaged like a toy. What's up?


It's so they don't lose the parts and they can drag the same weapon out the next time another drug lord is captured or killed.



Link Posted: 9/14/2010 6:03:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jarhead08:
Originally Posted By LIINTLICKR:
I wonder when they'll capture La Ken?


La Ken and La Skipper are on the run.

In their La Corvette
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 6:04:50 AM EDT
its airsoft
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 6:08:46 AM EDT
Doesn't look like it was used all that much.

+1 on thinking it was a Dragon or GI Joe toy rifle set.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 6:37:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Phlather:
its airsoft

If you hit it really hard candy falls out.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:50:49 AM EDT
Those round look huge!!
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 7:54:49 AM EDT
I'm really starting to think I was right and that it is just a macro shot of a GI Joe or a model gun. It looks very plasticy... not even real.
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:02:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By By_the_Bayonet:
I'm really starting to think I was right and that it is just a macro shot of a GI Joe or a model gun. It looks very plasticy... not even real.



It's real, as far as size goes.

FOX had the pictures up on their website when they caught him. They also had an UZI or something else on display, I can't remember.

They were showing him off as well as his weapons and other people arrested with him at the time, I lol'ed because it looked like they were parading the maid too!
Link Posted: 9/14/2010 8:36:12 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Evil_ATF:
Select-fire M4 with 40mm M203 and HEDP rounds?

Clearly purchased at a Texas gun show.


+1 Clearly. And I obviously need to get to more Texas gun shows, because I never see these in Wisconsin.
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