Marilyn Monroe was the figure on the grassy knoll.  She wanted to get rid of the "other" woman (Jackie) but her aim was thrown off by her high heels and she hit JFK instead.  BTW, Marilyn Monroe faked her own death one year earlier so she wouldn't show up on any troofer's radar.

I hope they aren't, bc I hold a history degree from a large state run university and I cannot accept the complete conclusion of the Warren Report.  From the possibility of a post event cover your ass by the Dallas PD and Secret Service to the chance of LHO not firing the only shots that day.  



But I think the movie JFK was retarded, though well acted.  And I certainly believe that LHO fired shots at the president.  Too much LBJ and Earl Warren involved to buy the whole thing though.  Sorry if that makes me a dimwit.  

A dimwit for questioning what the gov't tells you? I am amazed at the blind acceptance of the 'facts' on here and the namecalling that goes on about anyone who even DARES to question the status quo...I am ignorant for being curious about what may have happened? seems to me that the reverse would be true. JFK had one good scene...the one with Donald Sutherland....the rest was sheer tripe. I generally hate conspiracy stuff but this shooting and the events following it seem improbable to me.

It's really not that hard to hit a pie plate sized target with a rifle, 70yrds away with fairly rapid fire, especially with a scope. And keep in mind he missed twice before hitting his target.

 




 

The wording of your question is confusing me a bit....I was being sarcastic in the part of mine that you quoted.

That should have been "incapable". Why don't you think Oswald could have made the shots?

 

I think its possible....I also think its possible that other shooters were involved....I have no desire to debate this at length....its obviously a 'hot' issue here.

Could his head jerking back be some sort of nerve reaction?

I'm coming more and more to the conclusion that Americans or perhaps humans.. as awhole have some kind of genetic inbreed insanity............

It's "possible"? Earlier you said, "There had to be more than one shooter".

Now you're just looking for a fight...who cares what I think? I'm just going to get shouted down so why bother.

please explain why many of those witnesses, who spoke up, died with in a few months, from unusual circumstances.

I'm just curious why someone would think he couldn't have made the shots, is all.

 

something was covered up. ever read the warren report?  it defies physics.

Let me guess? The "magic bullet"?

 

Using that picture from the book depository (I've been to Dallas and have driven the route) If someone told me his scull has a small wound in the front and a fourth of his rear left scull blown out with brains while he was facing most often to the RIGHT and that they made that shot from that window I'd say they were full of s**t.

You know what? I honestly don't know...I am suspiscious by nature of what I am told by anyone in authority...goes back to my time in school and all the trouble I used to get into there....I really have not read a lot about the assasination and can't offer any more than that...I would not be surprised to learn that here had been more than one shooter...I think Kennedy had a lot of enemies who wanted him dead...anything is possible.

Skull....not scull....

What?  A bullet hitting a dozen things while changing direction a half dozen times, then falling out of a body intact and unharmed is a cover up?

Only on ARFCOM will the majority of people call everyone else a sheep and talk about how everyone in America is blind and doesn't see what the evil government is doing to us...

... then allow themselves to be spoon fed other Bull shit as the truth. Extremely Ignorant.

and anyone who uses the word "Troofer" is a complete Idiot...

Use of that word is equally as annoying and stupid as the "Truthers" them selves.

You guys are just as bad as the Sheep some times... you really are...

I'm not a Truther or a JFK Conspiracy Nut.
I will say that both have inconsistencies. That doesn't mean there is some Master Conspiracy at hand. It just means they have reasons to hide certain aspects.... most likely as a matter of "National Security"...

Only on ARFCOM will they Call everything else a liberal media leftist conspiracy indirectly... but when someone challenges the generally accepted notion about something all of a sudden they are some nut job who is calling everything a conspiracy without reviewing the "facts"....

How do you even know the facts are in fact, based on factual information?
You don't... so all you can do is come to the most reasonable conclusion in your mind with the data that is at hand.

Sadly, for alot people it's some outlandish Fantasy conspiracy...

At the Same time, you all should understand that a free man questions everything.

Question Authority. Think for your self.
Question Authority. Think for your self.
Question Authority. Think for your self.
Question Authority. Think for your self.
Question Authority. Think for your self.


To do anything but that is just plain ignorant.

To answer the OP's question. No I do not think they are the same.
I think the Hard core Conspiracy believers are just as bad as the people who think these events happened just the way the Govt. says they did.
I Don't believe the Truthers on the left... and I don't Believe the Official Answers and information given to us about either event on the right.

Somewhere in the middle is the REAL truth... we may never know it.
But a free man will always question it until proven beyond a REASONABLE doubt that things happened the way they were said to have happened.

I'm not a Truther.... I'm not a spoon fed bull shit eater.

I am a free man who thinks for himself.

Thank you! this is what I've been trying to say!

Posner killed Kennedy.

Questioning one's government is healthy, but sometimes three shots from a building where Lee Harvey Oswald worked; and two high-jacked jets with lots of fuel that caused the collapse of two uniquely constructed towers...the official versions are correct IMHO

 

LBJ did it, his home state, got rid of his whole family. no one else stood to benefit more. Some congressional committee decided there "probably" was some conspiracy about 12 years later.

Just because he could, does not mean he did.

1.  Troofers seem to be universally motivated by a hatred of Jews and Israel.

2.  Kennedy conspiracy people are found all across the spectrum, from those who are far-left, moderate, and even conservative.  They blame the Communists, the Mob, the CIA, even Marilyn Monroe's boyfriend.  

3.  Would not surprise me a bit if LBJ had Kennedy assassinated.  LBJ was that evil and that power-hungry.

I guess they could have found totally intact passports on NYC sidewalks and at the pentagon hours after the attacks. I
mean in an infinite universe, the chances of a terrorist attack occurring at the exact same time as a defense dept. simulation
of the exact same kind of attack is pretty likely, not even worth mentioning really, just like the many many other odd quirky
coincidences and "quo bono" facets of those events. I mean why would they lie to us?

Hoover talking to LBJ: The President would have been hit with all three shots had Conolly not turned and" got in the way"


Click on "Hoover" in the black box in the upper right. About 21 minutes long.

Not a fool, just correct.

It sounds more like you are doing a review of JFK by Oliver Stone.

Do you have any evidence to support that claim?

 

No. No more than you do to support that you say I am a fool. If I had the evidence that you want I would be a rich man.

Stone's film was far from the facts in many instances.

She later had plastic surgery and became Ursula Andress. Fact: Dr. No came out in 1962, after Monroe's death. Fact: Marilyn Monroe and Usrula Andress never appeared in a movie together. Fact: They were both large-chested blondes. Fact: Andress' lines were dubbed in Dr. No because Monroe had not yet completed voice training. Besides, have you ever heard Ursula Andress speak Swedish? Exactly.

Executive Order No. 11110



By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:
SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended ––

(a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

"(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and

(b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

SEC. 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

JOHN F. KENNEDY
THE WHITE HOUSE,
June 4, 1963


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Yes. Both fucking idiots.

 

That is almost as powerful as saying you stayed at a Holiday in Express.
 

Thinking, Yeah, that's how you came to that conclusion.

What is lost in the admonitions to people to think for themselves is that most people don't have any thoughts worth having and that encouraging them to think for themselves means that that minority whom nature has blessed with above-average cognitive equipment are that much less likely to acquire the basis of learning from which they might actually think.

I think Oswald did it, alone.  He had motive, means, and opportunity, he was in the right place, and he was a loopy loser.  I have not, however, immersed myself in the JFK assassination, and almost certainly never will, so feel free to dismiss.  Conspiracy theories are stupid and paranoid, and the common man's resort to them in the face of his ignorance a strike against democracy.

The JFK conspiracy industry fascinates me.  In the nearly fifty years since it happened, there have been no death bed confessions, no pissed off ex-wives or former girl friends, no kids going thru dad's belongings after the funeral and finding the key document, nothing since the assination to that has proven anything other than the American public's gullability.   Nixon couldn't keep Watergate a secret, Clinton couldn't keep Monica under wraps, Reagan couldn't keep Contra-gate quiet, yet the 50,000 people involved in the JFK conspiracy have maintained absolute silence.  Impressive to say the least.  

Unless I am part of the conspiracy and just planting this to distract the inquisitive.    

No, it wasn't the same IMHO.

When Ruby shot Oswald the next day in the Dallas PD, alot of people thought something was up..........I can understand that.

just assuming something is 'up' with no evidence.  it sounds like the same thing.

Lot of people testified as to what they saw and heard in Dealey Plaza that day. Gov excluded anything that did not fit the 3 shots Oswald theory. SS changed things just before the caravan started. Lots of differing testimony about the weapon and where weapons were found, testimony by LEO on the scene minutes and hours after the shooting.

Everybody had a reason to want Kennedy dead:
1) The Mob - he acknowledged we should pull out of VietNam which threatened their drug profits, wouldn't invade Cuba after Castro seized all mob assets, was going after organized crime with his brother as AG after the Teamsters got him elected, and let's not forget he was screwing a mobsters girlfriend.
2) Cuba and USSR - he blocked Soviet nuclear weapons from entering Cuba so was seen as crazy enough to start a nuclear war, was behind Bay of Pigs invasion (though he betrayed the Cuban invaders).
3) Cuban expatriates - see #2
4) He pretended to support the Civil Rights movement, which irritated certain members of the population.
5) He let Congress shelve the Civil Rights Act by letting them "refer it to Committee" which irritated another radical part of the population.
Who did I miss?

Ruby was a Chicago mobster sent to Dallas to expand Chicago's reach, and as punishment. He wasn't a patriot who sought revenge, he was a POS gangster.

I don't know about you, but in the video I can clearly see Dick Cheney hiding in the sewer with his super duper airsoft sniper rifle. It all make sense to me now.....I see a pattern here....he shot Kennedy, oversaw the destruction of the levees in New Orleans, and personally set the charges that dropped WTC. According to Mark Thompson on "Sirius Left", he's plotting with the CIA to assassinate Obama. We gotta keep an eye on this guy.

Oh shit, stand back gentleman, we have a shooter here that's better than Carlos Hathcock.  Stand back so the awesome doesn't blow your tissue to shit.

this has always puzzled me how a bullet just falls out and is found on the gurney. Even hearing about it as a kid I thought that that sounded fishy. I would assume that you would get a pass through or it would stay in until removed.