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Posted: 4/14/2002 7:59:35 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:00:53 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:05:47 AM EDT
A feeble mind with access to a keyboard.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:10:56 AM EDT
Wierd..I half expected Kentstate4 to be posting this type of stuff. Sgtar15
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:11:21 AM EDT
Okay, who did it? That is BEAUTIFUL!! What a way to sow dissention in their ranks, while getting some of them to (hypocritaclly) think our way. My kudos to whoever of you is undercover over there... Scott
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:22:34 AM EDT
What a bunch of queers, I love the post that he "wouldn't join the culture of violence" or perhaps the post by the guy who says
I couldn't live with myself if I knew I took another human life. Honestly, I'd rather be killed by a gun than kill with a gun (although, I'd rather have neither scenario occur). I don't understand how people can believe in God and guns at the same time? That's like believing in knowledge and illiteracy.
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The BEST one by far is this, I'm posting the best parts so you can see the kookiness that is a liberal's mind!
Yes, There is a bad moon arising I am a Vietnam era veteran and served in the Infantry with most of my time spent in Germany. People, I had a nervous breakdown in January "94". I felt like Nazi Germany was being recreated around me. During the next two years I withdrew from society and devoured every history book I could find. In late "96" I ended up at a VA clinic with respiratory problems. Turned out, my head was what needed adjustment. People this militia nut streak is really old Klan, rightwing Nazi, Corporate run CIA propaganda and it has become the tool of the Republican Party. The phsycolgist I was visiting finally confided that he believed much the same things I did and that the facts of my life did indeed put me in a unique position to judge our political climate with respect to southern bigotry and fasist dogma. I spent so much time with Germans and interacting with many former(?) Nazis while in service and I live, work and coexist alongside the most venemous racist the world has ever seen. Rightwing bubbas. His conclusion was for me to stay away from politics. Wrong conclusion doc. My activism, as little as I am able to do, sustains me. MY conclusion on what sent me spiraling down was the use of CIA sponsored propaganda that it has been redirected toward Liberals and Democrats here at home. And I am glad I found DU and realized I am sane and bound by duty to uphold the Constitution of the United States and defend my home against the tyranny that the Elite have fosited on our country. When you realize the magitude of this disimination of disinformation and see the results on sites like the Free Republic, the cKouncil of cKounservative cKitizens, Rightwing Liberatrian site Enter Stage Right, you realize the gravity of what this poltical climate has done to posion civic life of the country. Good people, we must accept what has happened with a determination to stand in the breach. It is our rightwing neighbors you should fear and not the Armed forces. Local control is still in the hands of the Majority. Heed your civic duties but prepare to defend yourself from those who would usurp the law, militia style. It is "they" who will murder you for the communist/socialist/liberal "they" know you to be. Arm yourselves. The rightwing is tearing apart the social fabric that allows us to coexist. Let me end this diatribe by saying I commend and envy Will Pitt and so many others here for standing in the breach.
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Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:22:38 AM EDT
One poser over therre said that the REPUBLICANS were destroying America!!! Man..what a crazy bunch!!!
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:24:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sgtar15: Wierd..I half expected Kentstate4 to be posting this type of stuff. Sgtar15
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Ditto, too bad that queer doesn't just disappear back into the closet.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:25:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/14/2002 8:29:19 AM EDT by shooter69]
Originally Posted By sgtar15: Wierd..I half expected Kentstate4 to be posting this type of stuff.
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The spelling is too good. [:D]
Originally Posted By Hydguy: One poser over therre said that the REPUBLICANS were destroying America!!! Man..what a crazy bunch!!!
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Well, that's their view. Unless you're willing surrender your rights and hard-earned paycheck to them, then you are out to destroy America... [whacko]
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:37:40 AM EDT
Why is that every time I am at that place I can't read more 2-3response to a thread and the hair in the back of my neck start to rise and I start to shake.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:41:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DScottHewitt: Okay, who did it? That is BEAUTIFUL!! What a way to sow dissention in their ranks, while getting some of them to (hypocritaclly) think our way. My kudos to whoever of you is undercover over there... Scott
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Agreed. That post is a masterwork. A cognitive dissonance time-bomb. And anything that forces a liberal to acutely suffer the restrictions of freedom he himself advocates (on the 2nd) is a good way of inspiring resentment for those restrictions. Good job to our agent over there.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:42:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Necromancer: Why is that every time I am at that place I can't read more 2-3response to a thread and the hair in the back of my neck start to rise and I start to shake.
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Because you're allergic to stupid people. And there is no treatment.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 9:04:05 AM EDT
What astounds me is that they apparently believe that THEY are the defenders of the constitution. How they're able to reconcile that concept with ever-increasing federal control of life in the U.S., legislation by activist liberal courts, and the creation of super empowered special interest groups is way beyond my comprehension. We haven't even reached the time of year yet that our earned income will come to us instead of taxes.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 12:45:28 PM EDT
We need more like this guy... "Gore1FL (3650 posts) Apr-14-02, 03:44 PM (ET) 59. I wouldn't buy a gun because I am not prepared to use a gun to harm a human being. At best it would be a non-used object in my house. At worst it is a weapon for someone to use against me or an accident waiting to happen. No thanks. ------------------------------------------- Don't Blame me! I voted for Mondale! "
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 12:55:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/14/2002 12:56:13 PM EDT by Boomholzer]
I can't read most of the posts beyond the first sentence. Makes me sick. Examples: [i]I'm a proud, middle-aged, unreconstructed radical hippie who NEVER even remotely considered being anywhere NEAR guns until this past year.[/i] [i]The whole reason they're around is to kill people. Shooting tin cans on a fence post might be fun to you. But you don't need to shoot tin cans to survive. [/i] [i]I just think someone needs serious psychological help if they get a thrill out of firing a gun. They're probably either very scared, or very troubled individuals.[/i]
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 12:58:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/14/2002 1:01:38 PM EDT by quietshoez]
Originally Posted By Boomholzer: . Examples: [i] [i]The whole reason they're around is to kill people. Shooting tin cans on a fence post might be fun to you. But you don't need to shoot tin cans to survive. [/i]
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BULLSHIT! just last week i was talking to a tincan and the fucker whipped out a knife and almost got me. luckily i had my birdman weapons system nuke .50! BTW, and why would Ducks Unlimited be so against gunowners in the first place? Gawd, i'm funny!
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 1:07:06 PM EDT
I wonder how many of those guys are really pro-2A infiltrators from all the conservative sites on the web, my guess is at least 50%. Kharn
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 1:13:16 PM EDT
"...nervous breakdown in January "94"...I felt like Nazi Germany was being recreated around me...unique position to judge our political climate with respect to southern bigotry and fasist dogma..." This guy is a dangerous nutcase. I guess most of my life has been sheltered. I used to not think someone like that could exist. Another nutjob suggests that the government should freeze the NRA's assets to get a "list of potential distributors" of weapons to Hamas. What?z
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 1:19:34 PM EDT
I think we can do some more damage over there: Lets all log on and tell the ones who DO want to arm themselves to buy some of those nice 'quality' Jannings and Bryco firearms!! Bulldog OUT
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 1:20:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Minman72: What a bunch of queers, I love the post that he "wouldn't join the culture of violence" or perhaps the post by the guy who says
I couldn't live with myself if I knew I took another human life. Honestly, I'd rather be killed by a gun than kill with a gun (although, I'd rather have neither scenario occur). I don't understand how people can believe in God and guns at the same time? That's like believing in knowledge and illiteracy.
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Well, at least they'll be easy to defeat if the S ever DOES htf! The BEST one by far is this, I'm posting the best parts so you can see the kookiness that is a liberal's mind!
Yes, There is a bad moon arising I am a Vietnam era veteran and served in the Infantry with most of my time spent in Germany. People, I had a nervous breakdown in January "94". I felt like Nazi Germany was being recreated around me. During the next two years I withdrew from society and devoured every history book I could find. In late "96" I ended up at a VA clinic with respiratory problems. Turned out, my head was what needed adjustment. People this militia nut streak is really old Klan, rightwing Nazi, Corporate run CIA propaganda and it has become the tool of the Republican Party. The phsycolgist I was visiting finally confided that he believed much the same things I did and that the facts of my life did indeed put me in a unique position to judge our political climate with respect to southern bigotry and fasist dogma. I spent so much time with Germans and interacting with many former(?) Nazis while in service and I live, work and coexist alongside the most venemous racist the world has ever seen. Rightwing bubbas. His conclusion was for me to stay away from politics. Wrong conclusion doc. My activism, as little as I am able to do, sustains me. MY conclusion on what sent me spiraling down was the use of CIA sponsored propaganda that it has been redirected toward Liberals and Democrats here at home. And I am glad I found DU and realized I am sane and bound by duty to uphold the Constitution of the United States and defend my home against the tyranny that the Elite have fosited on our country. When you realize the magitude of this disimination of disinformation and see the results on sites like the Free Republic, the cKouncil of cKounservative cKitizens, Rightwing Liberatrian site Enter Stage Right, you realize the gravity of what this poltical climate has done to posion civic life of the country. Good people, we must accept what has happened with a determination to stand in the breach. It is our rightwing neighbors you should fear and not the Armed forces. Local control is still in the hands of the Majority. Heed your civic duties but prepare to defend yourself from those who would usurp the law, militia style. It is "they" who will murder you for the communist/socialist/liberal "they" know you to be. Arm yourselves. The rightwing is tearing apart the social fabric that allows us to coexist. Let me end this diatribe by saying I commend and envy Will Pitt and so many others here for standing in the breach.
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Link Posted: 4/14/2002 1:28:54 PM EDT
oh, i just had FUN. read it NOW.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 1:30:24 PM EDT
That thread was very interesting from the standpoint that they feel that society is devolving in much the same way that we do, but from the 180 degree viewpoint. They just don't grasp that the current state of affairs is the direct result of years and years of thier own policies! They are starting to see what we've seen for years that we are all gonna have to reap what they have sown...
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 1:34:12 PM EDT
quietshoezar15 (1 posts) Apr-14-02, 05:24 PM (ET) 65. fuck all democrats. you don't deserve firearms or the freedom they provided you with. gun control is hitting your target, go hug a fucking tree. QUIETSHOEZ OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------- Oh you done it now! You PO'd the Demorats! They'll put you on "The List".... Course they're too pussy to do anything with the list, but you'll be on it none the less!
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 1:37:07 PM EDT
i know, now i feel all empty and alone inside. god, i bet that lit a fire under their ass.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 2:02:38 PM EDT
Your post will be deleted and your account locked before the day is out. But still good for them to hear it.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 2:05:49 PM EDT
Those idiots need to be reminded that if it weren't for "evil men with guns", they wouldn't have a 1st Amendment.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 2:37:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2002 2:43:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/14/2002 2:47:00 PM EDT by J_E_D]
I've never been there before. All I can say is "wow". Where are these Pro-2nd Amendment folks when the Socialist party is attempting to enact BS like The Brady Bill? Or all of them AR15.com agent provacateurs? That thread is very representative of the pro vs. anti discussions I had in the Army. I'd say that the majority of folks I served with were anti-gun. Reading that thread was deja-vu all over again. I also agree that it's a cognitave dissonance bomb. Anyone who is suceptible to pro-2nd leanings can't read that and say with any intellectual honesty that they wouldn't own a gun or support ownership. WTF is with the hypocritical Bruce Lee wannabe? I won't own a gun or be a member of the culture of violence but I learn the sword. What a douchebag. Offensive and defensive firearms use is by definition a martial art. It's just not an asian martial art. WTF do you learn at Thunder Ranch or Gunsite? I'm tempted to get an account there just to go off on that asshead, but instead I'm going to go practice my mall-ninjitsu and achieve inner calm.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 3:59:16 PM EDT
I thought the best line was "I would rather be killed by someone rather than have to shoot them". My god, what a bunch of idiots!
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 4:22:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Necromancer: Why is that every time I am at that place I can't read more 2-3response to a thread and the hair in the back of my neck start to rise and I start to shake.
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We suffer from the same allergies, LT. I can't visit sites like that either.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 4:31:34 PM EDT
Yes, There is a bad moon arising I am a Vietnam era veteran and served in the Infantry with most of my time spent in Germany. People, I had a nervous breakdown in January "94". I felt like Nazi Germany was being recreated around me. During the next two years I withdrew from society and devoured every history book I could find. In late "96" I ended up at a VA clinic with respiratory problems. Turned out, my head was what needed adjustment. People this militia nut streak is really old Klan, rightwing Nazi, Corporate run CIA propaganda and it has become the tool of the Republican Party.
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If I am reading this guy correctly, he claims to be a 'nam vet, but was still in the Army in '94 in Germany. Can you say 'not very believable'? I suppose it is possible, but with that screwed up head, it just makes me wonder. I love the part about how the CIA is right wing. I always kind of thought that they leaned a little to the left. Some of the things they say over there do tend to echo what we say, but yet isn't everything they are complaining about what the leftists want?
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 5:20:17 PM EDT
I surely hope that a-holes have weapons! Easier to justify what comes next....heh-heh. And it just means [u]more[/u] weapons we can recover 'come the Revolution.' Piece of cake! Eric The(ExtremelyCynical)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 5:32:09 PM EDT
[b]Bad Company[/b] by Bad Company Come to me, always on the run Destiny is a rising sun I was born six gun in my hand Behind the gun I make my final stand That's why they call me Bad company, I can't deny Bad, bad company 'Til the day I die Rebel souls, deserters we are called Chose a gun and threw away the sword Now these towns, they all know our names Six gun sound is our claim to fame I can hear 'em say Bad company, and I won't deny Bad, bad company 'Til the day I die Eric The(Now[u]That's[/u]Us,WhereAreThey?)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 5:32:11 PM EDT
I might have to register over there just to reply to this since he admits to being a hippy a good reply would be "you don't need (hippy drug or other recreational activity) to survive either"
Originally Posted By Boomholzer: I can't read most of the posts beyond the first sentence. Makes me sick. Examples: [i]I'm a proud, middle-aged, unreconstructed radical hippie who NEVER even remotely considered being anywhere NEAR guns until this past year.[/i] [i]The whole reason they're around is to kill people. Shooting tin cans on a fence post might be fun to you. But you don't need to shoot tin cans to survive. [/i]
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Link Posted: 4/14/2002 5:45:55 PM EDT
The democraticunderground. I cannot think of a nicer bunch to have jack-booted-thugs kick down their door, drag them into the street, hose them down with pepper spray, shock them with stun-guns and then shove a porcupine up their ass. They actually think that GWB had previous knowledge of, and actually took part in the 9-11 disaster. I cant imagine any American President taking part in such an activity. The democraticunderground, where the men are men, and the women are to.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 6:05:10 PM EDT
OK, time out. On page 1 "Minman72" said this about "Kentstate4" (the member not the school): [Originally Posted By sgtar15: Wierd..I half expected Kentstate4 to be posting this type of stuff. Sgtar15 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Minman 72: Ditto, too bad that queer doesn't just disappear back into the closet.] OK. Well, I see one mod (ETH) posted & passed right over it. So is calling someone that I disagree w/ on this board a "queer" OK now? That's good to know. I mean seeing as how we have been limited to "PG" personal attacks on Ar15.com, I'm happy to see that the mods have allowed for the expansion of our personal attack repertoire! Also, seeing as how threads get deleted or locked for sometimes random or mercurial reasons, it's refreshing to see a thread violate the rules, yet stay open in the face of danger.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 6:25:29 PM EDT
Post from jobux -
OK. Well, I see one mod (ETH) posted & passed right over it. So is calling someone that I disagree w/ on this board a "queer" OK now? That's good to know. I mean seeing as how we have been limited to "PG" personal attacks on Ar15.com, I'm happy to see that the mods have allowed for the expansion of our personal attack repertoire!
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Sorry, [b]jobux[/b], but after I got to the second post in this thread and saw the active link, I hit it, went to DU and posted what you see on this page 2. I didn't see anyone refer to kentstate4 as a 'queer' until you pointed it out! I'm not as fast as I used to be, but remember, I have only locked one thread in my moderating career, so I'm not easily moved to do so. Guys, stop calling any of our members a 'gay guy', or a 'queer', or any other perjorative term.
Also, seeing as how threads get deleted or locked for sometimes random or mercurial reasons, it's refreshing to see a thread violate the rules, yet stay open in the face of danger.
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A warning will suffice, IMHO, as I am loathe to lock any thread or delete any post. Just remember your manners, folks! That's all. Eric The(Reasonable)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 6:26:34 PM EDT
So does that mean there'll be some DU'ers coming over here to ask questions about their new black rifles? Guess we should rush over to DU and scream for some more gun laws to protect us from those crazy DU'ers. [whacko] Or we could lock and load, drive on, and let those DU'ers shoot themselves in the foot (or wherever else). What's sad is that is a ultraliberal hypocrite who has a firearms incident is reported as a gun owner, lumping them into our group without even asking us. Viper Out
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 6:32:30 PM EDT
The funniest thing about DU is how they ban and delete their opposistion. I guess they have no respect for the 1st or 2nd Ammendment. On here, the mods let Kent State and others expose their ignorance.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 6:36:24 PM EDT
Cool. Sorry for the sarcasm there ETH. I'm not trying to be PC, but it's kind of hard to take a discussion seriously when people are posting simply to insult each other rather than try to debate, or out-debate, the other members.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 6:47:50 PM EDT
Read the stuff posted there, I see a very good chance to recruit new pro-gunners. We could surely overlook the fact they are Democrats. The more people on our side the better. Perhaps, if we get some Liberals on our side on Gun Control Issues we could win some. Now, it is time to get a new account (My last one was banned within an hour of my first post) and go convice them they need Flash Suppressors, Hi-Capacity Magazines, Bayonet Lugs, etc...to defend themselves. Then play it up how these items are banned. Perhaps, then we can play up how they need Machine Guns, but 922(o)...
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 7:00:25 PM EDT
Exactly. I live w/ 2 Democrats that are VERY hard line 2nd amend. advocates. Man, I don't know when exactly some Democrats managed to get gun control on their party's front burner, but they did their party a great disservice when they did...
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 7:23:49 PM EDT
" from the citizen "enforcer" groups that the facist squatter in the White House is trying to organize" Did I miss my call-up notice? These guys are nuts.
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 7:40:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2002 7:41:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: I surely hope that a-holes have weapons! Easier to justify what comes next....heh-heh. And it just means [u]more[/u] weapons we can recover 'come the Revolution.' Piece of cake! Eric The(ExtremelyCynical)Hun[>]:)]
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ETH, you are The Man in my book... I can't remember reading any of your posts that I disagreed with. I couldn't bear reading more than a couple of posts over on the DU link, but found one douchebag boasting that he was "already armed and dangerous" due to ownership of a "Star FireStar Plus". Does anyone here know what that is, and if it's worth recovering?
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 7:44:29 PM EDT
A star is about one notch above a Jennings, Bryco, or Lorcin.
Originally Posted By Powergen:
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: I surely hope that a-holes have weapons! Easier to justify what comes next....heh-heh. And it just means [u]more[/u] weapons we can recover 'come the Revolution.' Piece of cake! Eric The(ExtremelyCynical)Hun[>]:)]
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ETH, you are The Man in my book... I can't remember reading any of your posts that I disagreed with. I couldn't bear reading more than a couple of posts over on the DU link, but found one douchebag boasting that he was "already armed and dangerous" due to ownership of a "Star FireStar Plus". Does anyone here know what that is, and if it's worth recovering?
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Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:05:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/14/2002 8:06:07 PM EDT by tep0583]
I love this delusional rant: [i] And I'm with you all the way on this! Now, if only more of our fellow left-libertarians would realize that the GOP is NOT the party of freedom. The GOP would elaborate and perpetuate the institutions of collectivized enforcement and authoritarian control to dizzying, unforeseen heights! The Democratic Party--even despite its occasional shortcomings such as gun control flirtations--is the true Party of Freedom. All rational left-libertarians need to ally with the Democratic Party and work to bring it along in the very rare instances where it deviates from individual freedoms, as well as bring the libertarian brethren along with us (and I don't mean the Pat Robertson theocratists who hijacked the Libertarian Party in 1988). Only the Democratic Party can truly halt and reverse the inexorable encroachment of unrestrained governmental intrusion. Go DEMS!! [/i] The Dems are the party of freedom? The freedom to have the government make all of your decisions for you perhaps, but the party of freedom? I think not...
Link Posted: 4/14/2002 8:38:26 PM EDT
Thank you, [b]Powergen![/b] I try to tell it like it is![:D] Eric The(StickAroundAndSee!)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 4/19/2002 1:28:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 4/19/2002 6:42:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Minman72: The phsycolgist I was visiting finally confided that he believed much the same things I did and that the facts of my life did indeed put me in a unique position to judge our political climate with respect to southern bigotry and fasist dogma. I spent so much time with Germans and interacting with many former(?) Nazis while in service and I live, work and coexist alongside the most venemous racist the world has ever seen. Rightwing bubbas.
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This is hysterical. His psychologist admits to thinking like him. Me thinks the psychologist needs a psychologist.
Link Posted: 4/19/2002 9:14:21 AM EDT
I'm thinking the deranged Army-dude got ahold of something not for human consumption while stationed in Germany. Or maybe it was the Agent Orange in Vietnam. [whacko] disclaimer: you-all do know I'm knocking only this fool and not any other person who has suffered effects from A.O. or anything else. My sympathies go out to the REAL victims of such stuff.
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