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Posted: 9/11/2010 8:57:32 AM EDT
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2010-09-10-airlinestanding10_ST_N.htm?se=yahoorefer

By Charisse Jones, USA TODAY

Think your seat in coach is cramped? Take a look at the SkyRider.




The new airplane seat, to be unveiled next week at the Aircraft Interiors Expo Americas conference in Long Beach, would give passengers an experience akin to riding horseback.

They'd sit at an angle with no more than 23 inches between their perch and the seat in front of them — a design that could appeal to low-cost airlines that have floated the idea of offering passengers standing-room tickets on short flights.


The SkyRider isn't headed for an airplane cabin just yet. But its designer, Aviointeriors, an aircraft seat design firm based in Latina, Italy, says several airlines, including some in the U.S., have expressed interest.

"We feel extremely confident that this concept will ... have great appeal to airlines for economic purposes," says Dominique Menoud, director general of Aviointeriors Group.

The SkyRider could be its own class of seating, like business or coach, Menoud says. Passengers would likely pay lower fares. But airlines could boost their profits because the narrowly spaced seats would allow them to squeeze more fliers on board.


"For flights anywhere from one to possibly even up to three hours ... this would be comfortable seating," he says. "The seat ... is like a saddle. Cowboys ride eight hours on their horses during the day and still feel comfortable in the saddle."

The novel design may draw interest — especially from two overseas carriers that have entertained the idea of providing no seats at all.

Ryanair, the Irish low-cost carrier that has set trends such as charging for in-flight meals, has said it would let passengers stand during flights if the Irish Aviation Authority would allow it.

And last year, Spring Airlines, a low-cost carrier in China, tried to get the OK from regulators to redesign its planes to accommodate some standing passengers.

But Gaetano Perugini, Aviointeriors' director of research and development who created the SkyRider, emphasizes that the firm isn't proposing that passengers be on their feet.

"Even though the (distance between seats) is extremely narrow, we are talking about seats, not about ... having passengers simply standing on the floor," he says. "You are sitting on a special seat, but it is a seat."

The seats will offer storage space as well, including a shelf for carry-on bags, and hooks to hang a jacket or purse.

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If a carrier commits to installing the new seats, Aviointeriors will apply to European aviation authorities and those in the United States for proper certification, Menoud says.

Les Dorr, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration, which regulates air travel in the U.S., says he's not familiar with the SkyRider's particular design.

However, he says, "While it's not impossible, it's difficult to conceive of a standing seat that would be able to meet all applicable FAA requirements and still be cost-effective."
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:00:02 AM EDT
Holy fuck does that look uncomfortable... And saying it's like riding on a horse doesn't make me want to sit there, I hate how it feels to ride on a horse.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:02:28 AM EDT
Ummm, I am 5'11" and 215 lbs. I am not going to fit in that sucker.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:05:00 AM EDT
just looking at that seat makes my back hurt
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:08:10 AM EDT
If they put the model on my lap and fly through some turbulence. Then I'm in.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:09:47 AM EDT
At 6'4" I refuse to sit in coach seats for more than an hour so I'm sure as hell not sitting in one of those for more than a 20 minute flight...and maybe not even that long. Whose bright idea was it to put something raised between your legs and then slant you forward. Like hell I want to sit on my balls for an entire flight.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:10:49 AM EDT
People will go for it.

Have you ever noticed that people will make ANY compromise to save even a few bucks on a flight?

Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:13:15 AM EDT
What about aircraft weight and balance?
If all these people are bring bags???

They will carry less fuel for the shorter flights but still.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:14:31 AM EDT
Fuck. That.

Flying commercial air sucks enough as it. I'd rather drive.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:14:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ZekeMenuar:
If they put the model on my lap and fly through some turbulence. Then I'm in.

Lol,

I was coming in here too say something almost exactly like that.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:15:41 AM EDT
Obviously they are going for a niche market in the US, since most people are too fat to use those.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:15:54 AM EDT
Is it explosive underpants resistant
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:19:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MrBackpack:
just looking at that seat makes my back hurt


+1
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:21:42 AM EDT
That big hump in the middle just SCREAMS ball chaffage (x_x)..
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:22:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By woodsie:
People will go for it.

Have you ever noticed that people will make ANY compromise to save even a few bucks on a flight?


I was a Travel Agent in a previous life, before the Internet took over. Even then it was insane how many hoops people would jump through to save a couple of bucks on a ticket. I liked the corporate side of things as people traveling on business were more sensitive to schedule and carrier, with price being further down the list.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:24:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:
That big hump in the middle just SCREAMS ball chaffage (x_x)..

The model seems to be enjoying it.

Will first class have a Sybian uprgade?
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:27:17 AM EDT
That looks a lot like my motorcycle seat.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:34:03 AM EDT
Just what you want in the event of a plane crash-a crush injury to your testicles. What the fuck, over?
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:36:17 AM EDT
I would pay more to have the ability to be seated in an ejection seat just in case.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:40:09 AM EDT
Just another of the dozens of reasons the airlines will never get a dime of my money...
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:40:44 AM EDT
I see that as more practical on a subway. Problem with the aircraft is you have 30 minutes of departure and arrival on a 30 minute flight.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:41:52 AM EDT
I'm surprised that someone hasn't opened a all gay airline. They could just screw down some butt plugs and a lap belt to a 2x4.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:48:53 AM EDT
Let's review the anonymous bull shit.


"For flights anywhere from one to possibly even up to three hours ... this would be comfortable seating," he says. "The seat ... is like a saddle. Cowboys ride eight hours on their horses during the day and still feel comfortable in the saddle."

First of all, cowboys don't ride for 8 hours. This guy has never been to a ranch. Too many movies. Yeah, sure, Spokesho- cowboys get up, get on a horse, ride 8 hours straight starting at 9 am. They never get out of the saddle What a buffoon statement.

Second, this Spokesho has never been on a US airline that has you sit on the ground in your seat up to 1 hour before pulling away from the skyway. Anyone ever sat on the runway at Hartford International for another 3 hours? We can start a club then.

I think that the all time low market for airlines was when I checked on a flight from Monterrey, California to LAX. I was assured that the plane was on time. Of course when I arrived at the counter at LAX, the plane had still not taken off.

I HAVE A GREAT PROPOSAL. LET THE ASSHAT SPOKESPERSON HAVE HIS DESK AND CHAIR REPLACED AND LET HIM SIT FOR 3-8 HOURS AT A STRETCH IN HIS UPRIGHT AIRLINE SEAT - JACK ASS
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:50:05 AM EDT
Fat Americans would never fit in those seats...
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:50:42 AM EDT
yeah it would be fine if that short hour flight didn't include an hour just waiting around.

also how will a 6 foot guy fit into those?
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:58:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:
At 6'4" I refuse to sit in coach seats for more than an hour so I'm sure as hell not sitting in one of those for more than a 20 minute flight...and maybe not even that long. Whose bright idea was it to put something raised between your legs and then slant you forward. Like hell I want to sit on my balls for an entire flight.


I'm only 5'4" and that is what occurred to me first thing. Fuck that noise.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:58:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By thezentree:
Fuck. That.

Flying commercial air sucks enough as it. I'd rather drive.


+1
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:22:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MACD:

Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:
That big hump in the middle just SCREAMS ball chaffage (x_x)..

The model seems to be enjoying it.

Will first class have a Sybian uprgade?


I was just thinking...she's smiling like she got the seat with the quarter slot.

Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:39:54 AM EDT
GFY

...and 6 months after these are introduced, the ticket prices will be the same as they are now for economy seats.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:44:28 AM EDT
Just trying to pack in as many people as possible. We are not sardines!
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:51:11 AM EDT
The do call some planes 'Airbus.' Thats what airline travel is becoming, the Greyhounds of the sky. Its not the 50's anymore.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:58:46 AM EDT
Will the FAA even allow them? Sure as hell doesn't look very safe. One rough touch down, everyone breaks a leg.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 11:05:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ViaDolorosa:
Holy fuck does that look uncomfortable... And saying it's like riding on a horse doesn't make me want to sit there, I hate how it feels to ride on a horse.


She looks like she kinda likes it
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 11:05:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By damcv62:
Will the FAA even allow them? Sure as hell doesn't look very safe. One rough touch down, everyone breaks a leg.


One rough landing and every male is done having kids.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 11:07:25 AM EDT
So you're basically spooning the person in front of you, and being spooned by the person behind you? No thanks, I'll take the already uncomfortable coach seats I pay too much to sit in once every few years as it is.

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Link Posted: 9/11/2010 11:09:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Ragin_Cajun:
GFY

...and 6 months after these are introduced, the ticket prices will be the same as they are now for economy seats.


/this.... plus they will reduce the bags you can bring.
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