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Posted: 9/11/2010 8:08:55 AM EDT
Why do I find myself wanting one of these? Out of the whole SU16 line, I think they look the best. Should I say fuck it and fo? It's gotta be better than a Mini-14, right?


http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/su-16ca/
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:09:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 8:10:29 AM EDT by capnrob97]
I had the 'C' model, it was a blast to shoot.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:10:13 AM EDT
I want one of each of Keltecs guns.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:10:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:12:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By branch_davidian:
Your doing it wrong.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/rfb/

When they come out with the STANAG model in .223, it's getting short listed. Supposedly, it's in the works.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:19:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 8:20:48 AM EDT by _DR]

I lke the "D" model.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:20:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 8:21:05 AM EDT by mcculver5]
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:21:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:22:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By branch_davidian:
Your doing it wrong.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/rfb/


Not sure I want that at that price. Kel-tec is supposed to top out at $500-$600 for their stuff.........
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:24:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 8:27:19 AM EDT by Cromlech]
Looks a bit fugly in those materials. If it had a wooden stock I'd like it more. The site lists them at $770, I'd rather get a DPMS AR-15 or something like that.

DPMS RFA3L16 PTHR LT16 223 COL = Price: $749.99 before tax

ETA:






Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:29:55 AM EDT
I paid 580 for mine, and I'd do it again. It's incredibly fun, and the heavy barrel and gas block sight guarantee consistent accuracy.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:31:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 8:34:58 AM EDT by Atomic_Ferret]

Originally Posted By Eazy_E:
Why do I find myself wanting one of these? Out of the whole SU16 line, I think they look the best. Should I say fuck it and fo? It's gotta be better than a Mini-14, right?


http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/su-16ca/

Fo!

Great little guns, I dig mine.

Pros: Better then a mini-14, takes AR mags, folds up, no "evil features" if you live in a state that worries about such things, cheaper then an AR.

Cons: Factory mags are useless (don't even bother with them), bipod sucks (Replace with railed forend), takedown pin easy to lose (replace with ringed pin from Home Depot).

Dunno if I would wanna take one into combat, but for a play gun, they are pretty cool.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:35:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 8:37:12 AM EDT by _DR]
Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By _DR:

I lke the "D" model.


Make a nice truck gun.


Yep, I like all the rails too, flashlight and optic would be easy adds.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:35:35 AM EDT
I kinda like it, had a little retro Planet Of The Apes look to it.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:35:58 AM EDT
I gotta say, I've considered buying one a few times.

I don't know why you lust, but I do to.


Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:38:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 8:41:17 AM EDT by sailsail]
I want the one that takes the 9m glock mags.

I missed my chance to pick a used one up with six glock 19 mags for $150.00 $175.00 it had the grip cut down.
At the time I only had a glock 17.

Kicking myself for not buying that.

Edit it was 175.00 for all six or 150.00 for just the gun and three mags.
He would have thrown in two G17 preban mags for a total of $200.00 as well.

Edit2: It has a round count of around 1000 WWB, I don't know if that really would of changed anything though.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:41:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By branch_davidian:
Your doing it wrong.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/rfb/


I am so glad I haven't seen one of those in a shop.

I already have FAL mags.................


they look really cool, my buddy has one not very happy with it, the way it sends the empty's down the tube for ejection is less than reliable he has sent it back to kel-tec twice now for the same problem, but this is the only one i have seen so far he may have just gotten a lemon, but they do look reaaly nice, kinda on the heavy side.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:48:57 AM EDT
Get it! There's nothing wrong with being different.

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Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:54:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:02:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:02:24 AM EDT
What's the story about that Glock rifle that went ka-boom?
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:05:04 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:06:49 AM EDT
If they fit in a pack easily then I'd want one... don't know if they do though.

If it can fold up to be shorter than a 16" + flash hider AR-15 upper I'd get one.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:07:07 AM EDT
Get a Used WASR 10 FOR $250.00 & be done with it ...
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:10:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 9:12:12 AM EDT by mjcOH1]


Guy claims factory ammo. He also said he had installed a replacement bolt sent by Kel-tec. No mention in the article of whether or not he head-spaced it after that.

http://www.ktog.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1158646481/4

Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:11:30 AM EDT
All the pics aside....I've been using a SU16C with no ill effects.....can be fired from the closed position.....and would take it over a mini 14 for accuracy and the ability to use AR mags.....not as robust though.

WTF happened in the pics though?......run over with a truck or did it blow up?
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:13:50 AM EDT
They are fugly POS's. I'd rather buy an SKS or a WASR over one of those shitboxes.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:16:36 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 9:31:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Cromlech:
Looks a bit fugly in those materials. If it had a wooden stock I'd like it more. The site lists them at $770, I'd rather get a DPMS AR-15 or something like that.

DPMS RFA3L16 PTHR LT16 223 COL = Price: $749.99 before tax

ETA:






With Kel-Tec MSRP is always really high compared to what they actually sell for, for example there is a NIB su-16ca for sale on gunbroker right now with free shipping for $499.

Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:42:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 10:43:11 AM EDT by SkyMan]
I'd like to take this opportunity t to say I love my Mini-14 almost as much as my AR's. They're rock solid; if all ells fails you can use them effectively as a club, reload and start shooting again. This rifle dose look like someone was drinking at the press and used the wrong powder.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:43:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By branch_davidian:
Your doing it wrong.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/rfb/


I am so glad I haven't seen one of those in a shop.

I already have FAL mags.................


Wow. Missed that on the first look see.

Great, more money down the gun rat hole.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:44:19 AM EDT
I'd like to take this opportunity to say I love my Mini-14 almost as much as my AR's. They're rock solid; if all ells fails you can use them effectively as a club, reload and start shooting again. This rifle dose look like someone was drinking at the press and used the wrong powder.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:46:22 AM EDT
I want a 9mm Sub2000 that takes Beretta mags.

Kel-Tec definitely has some interesting designs.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:51:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:55:23 AM EDT
They just look so janky.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 10:59:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:
I want a 9mm Sub2000 that takes Beretta mags.

Kel-Tec definitely has some interesting designs.


This

a 9mm that will take my 92fs mags or a .45 acp that used XD mags and I would be right there
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 12:06:06 PM EDT
They are just too cool.....I use these for vehicle guns.....









They pack well....and no one raises an eyebrow when you take it to your hotel room.....
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 7:32:22 PM EDT
I've been wanting one for a while. As others have said it looks like a great truck gun. I want the one that actually folds all the way, not the folding stock. It does everything a Mini-14 does (light, compact, handy) and more (accurate, AR mags, picatinny rail) and at a price that wasn't dreamed up by a room full of crackhead AIDS monkeys.

My wife has had her eye on a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 for a while. I've got a hardon for the RFB and I'm kind of interested in the PMR-30, too. I own a P-11 from them and while it's not as refined as a Glock or Sig, its price isn't on par with them either and it is plenty reliable. The company makes innovative, quality products at an affordable price. I wish there were more companies out there doing what Kel-Tec does.
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 7:35:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Echo2:
They are just too cool.....I use these for vehicle guns.....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3402/4572599463_80c0e980be.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4572599365_da0420b335.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4572599393_9e8e09035e.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4572599419_c7ff5e74d2.jpg

They pack well....and no one raises an eyebrow when you take it to your hotel room.....

Does the gun move around in that bag? Like if you were to shake it would the gun turn around and make it obvious that whatever was in there was not a laptop?
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 7:47:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By branch_davidian:
Your doing it wrong.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/rifles/rfb/

LOL...32" barrel on the "target" model...wtf?
Link Posted: 9/11/2010 8:25:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bluefalcon:

...The company makes innovative, quality products at an affordable price. I wish there were more companies out there doing what Kel-Tec does.

+1 There really is no one else going out on the line like they do with innovative mass production stuff.

I've been happy with all five of my keltec pistols, fired a couple of their sub2k and su16s and they seemed good enough. Haven't fired an RFB yet but front ejecting is a big turn off.

I'd love to eventually see a "premium" line from them, with beefier (and more metal) components, improved fit/finish, etc. I'd gladly pay 25-50% more for some of their guns if they could do that.
Link Posted: 9/12/2010 3:05:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sailsail:

Originally Posted By Echo2:
They are just too cool.....I use these for vehicle guns.....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3402/4572599463_80c0e980be.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4572599365_da0420b335.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/4572599393_9e8e09035e.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4572599419_c7ff5e74d2.jpg

They pack well....and no one raises an eyebrow when you take it to your hotel room.....

Does the gun move around in that bag? Like if you were to shake it would the gun turn around and make it obvious that whatever was in there was not a laptop?



The gun is snug.....corner to corner is snug....and the thickness is about like a laptop....the mags are snug when all is zipped and velcroed.

Just heavier than a laptop....
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