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Posted: 9/10/2010 5:21:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/11/2010 7:18:03 AM EDT by CUJOinLV]
One of my friends is a Cocktail Waitress at one of the local casinos. . .

When we go out, she is constantly bantering about how she won't eat anything that isn't "organic." She does look well but is the type of person that is always applying makeup and lip gloss. . .She spends a ton of money on purchasing "organic" only.

I grew up on a ranch that grew peaches, plums, grapes and nectarines. . .

When we go varmint hunting, the place we hunt on grows "organic" alfalfa. They aren't allowed to use pesticides. We come in and throw at least 500 rounds of lead per day trying to do a bit of pest control. One farmer said that if it wasn't for us, he would lose 25% of his crop.

What is it with this "organic" thing? She spends a TON of money on this "healthier" lifestyle.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:23:12 PM EDT
trendy.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:23:41 PM EDT
Some people are willing to pay a premium price to feel smug. You got an H&K?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:25:12 PM EDT
Well, it does usually taste better than the plastic food I used to buy.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:27:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 5:28:19 PM EDT by Pegasus6]
I'm more interested in the macros/health aspects of a food. Quite frequently, organics are healthier than their conventional counterparts.

For example, I love most of this company's foods: http://www.kashi.com/
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:27:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By edb66:
Some people are willing to pay a premium price to feel smug. You got an H&K?


Thanks TJ and actually I have a few HK's. 4 P7's and a few others.

My thoughts are that this is that gals only thing. No hobbies. Maybe that is her hobby? However, I don't need to be reminded at the table on what I can eat and should eat.

If I like it, I'm going to eat it.

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:30:00 PM EDT
Group think and junk science.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:35:22 PM EDT
Marketing gimmick. Its brilliant if you think about it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:35:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 5:37:13 PM EDT by Spade]

Originally Posted By Zardoz:
Well, it does usually taste better than the plastic food I used to buy.

Plastics are organic.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:35:35 PM EDT
Some people dont know what the hell they are talking about or looking for when they use that term, they just think its the latest fad. Me, I dont care to buy meat from the big mass producers. I can afford to go to the local family owned butcher plant and buy locally raised beef and pigs that were slaughtered humanely right here.
There's an elderly couple who sell fresh eggs on the side of the road to help supplement their income. I gladly buy from them instead of the mass producers.
I understand animals are raised and killed to go on my plate and feed my family and they are damn tasty too. I just dont care for the large organizations and their business practices. I also frequent the farmers market every chance I get. I would much rather buy local produce raised by a family then some corporate farm out of California or someplace.
Anyways, thats my take on it. It has nothing to do with being trendy for me, I just support local and dont care for corporate farming/ranching.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:36:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 5:37:17 PM EDT by adi]
If I can get something that is held to a higher standard, and its not too insanely expensive, I have no problems with that. Whether or not its beneficial is impossible to prove, but it doesn't hurt.

I try and get local grown organic/free range whenever possible.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:38:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
Marketing gimmick. Its brilliant if you think about it.


This. And I like some organic stuff, but the shit that that label gets slapped on is sometimes .
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:38:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CUJOinLV:
One of my friends is a Cocktail Waitress at one of the local casinos. . .

When we go out, she is constantly bantering about how she won't eat anything that isn't "organic." She does look well but is the type of person that is always applying makeup and lip gloss. . .She spends a ton of money on purchasing "organic" only.

I grew up on a ranch that grew peaches, plums, grapes and nectarines. . .

When we go varmint hunting, the place we hunt on grows "organic" alfalfa. They aren't allowed to use pesticides. We come in and throw at least 500 rounds of lead per day trying to do a bit of pest control.

What is it with this "organic" thing?




I like to point out to these fine people that cyanide, anthrax, and bleach are also organic....
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:38:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
Marketing gimmick. Its brilliant if you think about it.

yup.

F'ing brilliant.

Soccer mom's with a lot of cash to spend on "only the best for my kids!"
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:40:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CUJOinLV:
One of my friends is a Cocktail Waitress at one of the local casinos. . .

When we go out, she is constantly bantering about how she won't eat anything that isn't "organic." She does look well but is the type of person that is always applying makeup and lip gloss. . .She spends a ton of money on purchasing "organic" only.

I grew up on a ranch that grew peaches, plums, grapes and nectarines. . .

When we go varmint hunting, the place we hunt on grows "organic" alfalfa. They aren't allowed to use pesticides. We come in and throw at least 500 rounds of lead per day trying to do a bit of pest control.

What is it with this "organic" thing?


Will she take "organic" cock?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:40:37 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:41:17 PM EDT
The newest and best marketing buzzword.

When i was a chef, crafting an "organic" special guaranteed a mountain of sales at a higher price point.

Im my (professional) opinion organic benefits are a bit of a wash, for the consumer at least. I dont think that solely by virtue of being "organic" a fruit or vegetable is any better tasting. Many claim they are, but blind taste testing suggests otherwise. There are exceptions though, but most of them, i suspect, are better for reasons not entirely related to the "organic" tag.

Organic free range chicken is better than cheapo chicken, but its %400 the price. A line of organic herbs are by far the best i have tasted, but i dont know if it is because they are organic, or because they are grown on a small farm with alot of attention to detail, and arrive super fresh.

The best, by far, pork i have tasted/prepared was organic, but i think it was the %70 acorn diet and old (pre-lean era) breeding lines, not the lack of pesticides it was exposed to.

Organic beef fucking sucks.

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:41:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Spade:

Originally Posted By Zardoz:
Well, it does usually taste better than the plastic food I used to buy.

Plastics are organic.


True. The thought hit me the instant I clicked "submit" but I figured that maybe nobody would catch it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:44:30 PM EDT
I bought some organic green peppers once, one had some sort of caterpillar inside that was eating the pepper. The green pepper also had the caterpillars turds all over inside of it. It ended up in the trash.

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:44:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Firebird69:

Originally Posted By CUJOinLV:
One of my friends is a Cocktail Waitress at one of the local casinos. . .

When we go out, she is constantly bantering about how she won't eat anything that isn't "organic." She does look well but is the type of person that is always applying makeup and lip gloss. . .She spends a ton of money on purchasing "organic" only.

I grew up on a ranch that grew peaches, plums, grapes and nectarines. . .

When we go varmint hunting, the place we hunt on grows "organic" alfalfa. They aren't allowed to use pesticides. We come in and throw at least 500 rounds of lead per day trying to do a bit of pest control.

What is it with this "organic" thing?



I like bacon so I'm sure that that's a "no go."
Will she take "organic" cock?


Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:45:56 PM EDT
It's been a while, but doesn't "organic" = carbon based? If so, that would be US (like, people) and coal –– think about it. BTW, reluctantly, I've tried the "organic" stuff, it tasted OK, but most tasted like shit. Might be on to something here.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:46:41 PM EDT
Organic makes me lol.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:46:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 5:48:55 PM EDT by Dave_A]

Originally Posted By CUJOinLV:
One of my friends is a Cocktail Waitress at one of the local casinos. . .

When we go out, she is constantly bantering about how she won't eat anything that isn't "organic." She does look well but is the type of person that is always applying makeup and lip gloss. . .She spends a ton of money on purchasing "organic" only.

I grew up on a ranch that grew peaches, plums, grapes and nectarines. . .

When we go varmint hunting, the place we hunt on grows "organic" alfalfa. They aren't allowed to use pesticides. We come in and throw at least 500 rounds of lead per day trying to do a bit of pest control.

What is it with this "organic" thing?


It's trendy to eat food that's grown 'naturally' and fertilized with geuine bullshit...

It's also a way for farmers to make a little extra, as 'organic' commands a premium - but crop yields are lower than what is seen with modern farming methods, of course...

The Free Market at work, and all... Most of the time...

I say *most of the time* because some of the more vehement 'Organic' or 'Local' food types try to get their preferences legislated - such as bans on genetically-enhanced food, or on the use of medical technology to increase dairy output, etc...

THAT is wrong - let the market decide... If I want to eat cheap, mass-produced food, I should be able to (and I do... Super Walmart grocery section, FTW)...
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:47:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 5:49:09 PM EDT by ZedsDeadBaby]
I buy organic milk and grain-fed beef.

Believe me, in regard to those two things, it tastes way better.


ETA: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:48:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rangermonroe:

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
Marketing gimmick. Its brilliant if you think about it.

yup.

F'ing brilliant.

Soccer mom's with a lot of cash to spend on "only the best for my kids!"


A few months ago i got to take a long look at the the inner workings of a "green" hotel chain. Their marketing is fucking brilliant. People are lining up to pay double competitive price to stay somewhere committed to the environment with an organic restaurant* low flow fixtures** and high efficiency lighting***


*the restaraunt has one all organic item and one organic wine available
**"some of our facilities have been outfitted with low flow fixtures"
*** up to 20 percent of common area lighting is provided high efficiency lighting



Basically, we install a few mag induction lights and low flow toilets, and tell the chef to order in some ocean caught salmon and organic bokchoy, and you will pay 450 dollars a night to stay here.

its working too...
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:49:22 PM EDT
Fruit and veggies raised in shit for fertilizer. I'll take my chances with petrochemicals...
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:49:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CUJOinLV:
Originally Posted By Firebird69:

Originally Posted By CUJOinLV:
One of my friends is a Cocktail Waitress at one of the local casinos. . .

When we go out, she is constantly bantering about how she won't eat anything that isn't "organic." She does look well but is the type of person that is always applying makeup and lip gloss. . .She spends a ton of money on purchasing "organic" only.

I grew up on a ranch that grew peaches, plums, grapes and nectarines. . .

When we go varmint hunting, the place we hunt on grows "organic" alfalfa. They aren't allowed to use pesticides. We come in and throw at least 500 rounds of lead per day trying to do a bit of pest control.

What is it with this "organic" thing?



I like bacon so I'm sure that that's a "no go."
Will she take "organic" cock?



I would call my cock "cage free" . Then she could love it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:49:53 PM EDT
snake oil.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:49:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mattsd:
The newest and best marketing buzzword.

When i was a chef, crafting an "organic" special guaranteed a mountain of sales at a higher price point.

Im my (professional) opinion organic benefits are a bit of a wash, for the consumer at least. I dont think that solely by virtue of being "organic" a fruit or vegetable is any better tasting. Many claim they are, but blind taste testing suggests otherwise. There are exceptions though, but most of them, i suspect, are better for reasons not entirely related to the "organic" tag.

Organic free range chicken is better than cheapo chicken, but its %400 the price. A line of organic herbs are by far the best i have tasted, but i dont know if it is because they are organic, or because they are grown on a small farm with alot of attention to detail, and arrive super fresh.

The best, by far, pork i have tasted/prepared was organic, but i think it was the %70 acorn diet and old (pre-lean era) breeding lines, not the lack of pesticides it was exposed to.

Organic beef fucking sucks.



+1

Correlation != Causation.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:50:18 PM EDT
Personally, I would rather eat a calf that had been wormed than a nasty grass-fed 'organic" one.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:51:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tactical_Jew:
trendy.


Mmm not sure so much about trendy. It has been around for a long time now. People keep buying it so farmers keep growing it. Simple as that.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:53:05 PM EDT
SHIT makes everything grow! yo!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:57:05 PM EDT
I avoid it, I don't like bugs in my produce.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:58:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mattsd:
Originally Posted By rangermonroe:

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
Marketing gimmick. Its brilliant if you think about it.

yup.

F'ing brilliant.

Soccer mom's with a lot of cash to spend on "only the best for my kids!"


A few months ago i got to take a long look at the the inner workings of a "green" hotel chain. Their marketing is fucking brilliant. People are lining up to pay double competitive price to stay somewhere committed to the environment with an organic restaurant* low flow fixtures** and high efficiency lighting***


*the restaraunt has one all organic item and one organic wine available
**"some of our facilities have been outfitted with low flow fixtures"
*** up to 20 percent of common area lighting is provided high efficiency lighting



Basically, we install a few mag induction lights and low flow toilets, and tell the chef to order in some ocean caught salmon and organic bokchoy, and you will pay 450 dollars a night to stay here.

its working too...

Out Fucking Standing!


If I were in a position to fleece the idiots provide a service like that, I would.

I would even put a solar panel on the roof, hooked up to a trolling motor battery that ran a light bulb and proudly proclaim "a portion of the evening lighting comes from solar energy, the remainder comes from canned sunshine."

I would give them stickers with golden stars in the morning as a reward and a thank you from Mother Earth.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:00:21 PM EDT
Think of it like building an AR vs buying a mass produced one.
In true organic food (not what the govt says can be labeled as organic) you can be pretty sure what you are getting and not getting.
Mass produced food, not so much.

Just for the record, I eat mostly mass produced food and shoot a mass produced AR.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:20:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 6:21:37 PM EDT by CUJOinLV]
Originally Posted By USCG_CPO:
Some people dont know what the hell they are talking about or looking for when they use that term, they just think its the latest fad. Me, I dont care to buy meat from the big mass producers. I can afford to go to the local family owned butcher plant and buy locally raised beef and pigs that were slaughtered humanely right here.
There's an elderly couple who sell fresh eggs on the side of the road to help supplement their income. I gladly buy from them instead of the mass producers.
I understand animals are raised and killed to go on my plate and feed my family and they are damn tasty too. I just dont care for the large organizations and their business practices. I also frequent the farmers market every chance I get. I would much rather buy local produce raised by a family then some corporate farm out of California or someplace.
Anyways, thats my take on it. It has nothing to do with being trendy for me, I just support local and dont care for corporate farming/ranching.



Thanks CPO:

I think the same way.

Semper Paratus!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:30:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mattsd:
The newest and best marketing buzzword.

When i was a chef, crafting an "organic" special guaranteed a mountain of sales at a higher price point.

Im my (professional) opinion organic benefits are a bit of a wash, for the consumer at least. I dont think that solely by virtue of being "organic" a fruit or vegetable is any better tasting. Many claim they are, but blind taste testing suggests otherwise. There are exceptions though, but most of them, i suspect, are better for reasons not entirely related to the "organic" tag.

Organic free range chicken is better than cheapo chicken, but its %400 the price. A line of organic herbs are by far the best i have tasted, but i dont know if it is because they are organic, or because they are grown on a small farm with alot of attention to detail, and arrive super fresh.

The best, by far, pork i have tasted/prepared was organic, but i think it was the %70 acorn diet and old (pre-lean era) breeding lines, not the lack of pesticides it was exposed to.

Organic beef fucking sucks.


I tried "organic" pork a few days ago. Actually she was the one that ordered it. It was great!


Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:38:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zardoz:
Originally Posted By Spade:

Originally Posted By Zardoz:
Well, it does usually taste better than the plastic food I used to buy.

Plastics are organic.


True. The thought hit me the instant I clicked "submit" but I figured that maybe nobody would catch it.

I usually go for the "silicon based food" joke.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:49:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Zardoz:
Well, it does usually taste better than the plastic food I used to buy.


Blind taste tests don't support that.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:53:50 PM EDT
The blind taste tests exclude the smug factor.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:58:55 PM EDT
Placebo. It makes people feel better just because it's different.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:03:33 PM EDT
I have 60 acres of garden. Baby carrots, new potatoes, onions, black eyed peas, watermelon, cucumbers, etc. Its all organic.
Grows right out of the ground. Dont use fertilizer and pesiticides and its all trashed. So get your head out of your ass , grow and pick your own and its as good as it gets.
My neighbor has 1 acre and he grows the same as me. Organic is like orgasmic. Any body can have one. It just take s a little work.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:05:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mattsd:
The newest and best marketing buzzword.

When i was a chef, crafting an "organic" special guaranteed a mountain of sales at a higher price point.

Im my (professional) opinion organic benefits are a bit of a wash, for the consumer at least. I dont think that solely by virtue of being "organic" a fruit or vegetable is any better tasting. Many claim they are, but blind taste testing suggests otherwise. There are exceptions though, but most of them, i suspect, are better for reasons not entirely related to the "organic" tag.

Organic free range chicken is better than cheapo chicken, but its %400 the price. A line of organic herbs are by far the best i have tasted, but i dont know if it is because they are organic, or because they are grown on a small farm with alot of attention to detail, and arrive super fresh.

The best, by far, pork i have tasted/prepared was organic, but i think it was the %70 acorn diet and old (pre-lean era) breeding lines, not the lack of pesticides it was exposed to.

Organic beef fucking sucks.

While helping a cousin shop at Wally World I saw a bed sheet that said it was made from, ready?, "Organic Cotton."

Anybody know where I can get some Organic Pepsi Cola

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:06:20 PM EDT
It's a religion, my SIL is a devout follower.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:07:59 PM EDT
What is it with people who want to buy food with a bunch of unnatural garbage in it? That's why I like hunting, because I know that shit isn't tainted with a bunch of shit. Some seriously illogical posts in this thread. "Shut up and eat food with a bunch of BS chemicals and hormones in it."
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:08:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Zardoz:
Well, it does usually taste better than the plastic food I used to buy.


Yes, worth buying for this reason alone.

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:09:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By rangermonroe:

Originally Posted By mattsd:
Originally Posted By rangermonroe:

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
Marketing gimmick. Its brilliant if you think about it.

yup.

F'ing brilliant.

Soccer mom's with a lot of cash to spend on "only the best for my kids!"


A few months ago i got to take a long look at the the inner workings of a "green" hotel chain. Their marketing is fucking brilliant. People are lining up to pay double competitive price to stay somewhere committed to the environment with an organic restaurant* low flow fixtures** and high efficiency lighting***


*the restaraunt has one all organic item and one organic wine available
**"some of our facilities have been outfitted with low flow fixtures"
*** up to 20 percent of common area lighting is provided high efficiency lighting



Basically, we install a few mag induction lights and low flow toilets, and tell the chef to order in some ocean caught salmon and organic bokchoy, and you will pay 450 dollars a night to stay here.

its working too...

Out Fucking Standing!


If I were in a position to fleece the idiots provide a service like that, I would.

I would even put a solar panel on the roof, hooked up to a trolling motor battery that ran a light bulb and proudly proclaim "a portion of the evening lighting comes from solar energy, the remainder comes from canned sunshine."

I would give them stickers with golden stars in the morning as a reward and a thank you from Mother Earth.


They practically do. You, and i mean this seriously, can not take a shit without being reminded of the "green" status you are paying for. Signs in the bathroom explain how you have to order fresh towels, but they encourage you to reuse bathtowels to save the enviroment. Or plaques in your room explaining the light timer feature that saves the environment.
This room service menu is printed on recycled paper.

remember to try our paperless check in

leftovers? take them home in this non-styrofoam recycled take out box

would you like room service to bring you some organic wine?



enjoy this complementary fair trade coffee



this private label hand cream is not tested on animals


IT

Never

Ends.

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:10:39 PM EDT
Organic = Smug + Group Think
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:12:06 PM EDT
Instead of fertilizer, don't organic foods get covered in poop?

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Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:12:49 PM EDT
Same as Tier 1 only in food!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 7:13:55 PM EDT
No High Fructose Corn Syrup.
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