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Posted: 9/10/2010 2:44:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 2:48:36 PM EDT by momar]
enough said!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:46:01 PM EDT
This is GD god doesn't exist here, you wouldn't want to upset the atheist here with all that Pledge of Alligence crap.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:46:23 PM EDT
I'm just a n00b using wikipedia, so correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't that date back to 1892, which is a good 100 years after the Constitution?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:46:48 PM EDT
You need a capital G
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:47:00 PM EDT
Sup fellow cheesehead! Under God indeed!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:48:01 PM EDT
So.. this country had been declining until 1954 when that was added to the pledge?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:48:31 PM EDT
The under god part was not in the original.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:49:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 2:51:44 PM EDT by SuperJanitor]
"...and to the democracy for which it stands, one nation, under State, with social justice and collective wealth for all"......

The new revision
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:51:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 2:51:55 PM EDT by Jinxsters]
Originally Posted By SuperJanitor:
"One nation, under State, with social justice and collective wealth for all"......

The new revision


Edit: I need to stop.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:55:29 PM EDT
just voicing what I felt at the moment crucify if you must!. or spell checker or brown people zzzzzzI dont care! its what i felt ! more people should be able to post random thoughts! I ......never mind! I dont want to get the ban hammer I actually enjoy this site!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:59:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 3:05:13 PM EDT by momar]
I believe it was one nation under god indivisible!
or a ban hammer for me!

that is the way I was told but I went to a private Lutheran school someone please correct me if i am wrong.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:09:10 PM EDT
jinkster I like my version better
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:15:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By momar:
just voicing what I felt at the moment crucify if you must!. or spell checker or brown people zzzzzzI dont care! its what i felt ! more people should be able to post random thoughts! I ......never mind! I dont want to get the ban hammer I actually enjoy this site!

Random thoughts are fine, it's just nice when they're also coherent.

I went to a private Lutheran school

No shit? I'd suggest they owe you an apology.

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:32:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 3:37:20 PM EDT by momar]
O APOLOGY NEEDED ok i think i have caps lock off now . I wish I was as smart as you guys! you know it sucks being such a dumb ass dont you! geezeze I wish I could attend the class with the smart kids. Now I know know for a fact it was the teachers fault! I am so dumb! or drunk?well both ftw! dont like it dont post I am having fun! and as of yet not a coc violation that I ca recall.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:36:01 PM EDT
Did you know that the Pledge was written by an avowed socialist, and the words "under god" were not added until the late 1950's?


Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:37:54 PM EDT
One nation with liberty and justice for all.

Keep your god out of it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:39:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 3:39:45 PM EDT by Tolip]
"Under God" was added 56 years ago.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:39:12 PM EDT
here I am, rock you like a hurricane!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:40:49 PM EDT
no i just know what I was told If it was wrong I wish you would talk to my history teacher about it cause one more cocktail and I wont be able to type any more Yes Again I Fail! ttyl
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:41:30 PM EDT
The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931), a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850-1898). The original "Pledge of Allegiance" was published in the September 8 issue of the popular children's magazine The Youth's Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's arrival in the Americas. The event was conceived and promoted by James B. Upham, a marketer for the magazine, in a campaign to encourage patriotism and the display of the American flag in public schools.



Just sayin......
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:42:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 3rdpig:

Originally Posted By momar:
just voicing what I felt at the moment crucify if you must!. or spell checker or brown people zzzzzzI dont care! its what i felt ! more people should be able to post random thoughts! I ......never mind! I dont want to get the ban hammer I actually enjoy this site!

Random thoughts are fine, it's just nice when they're also coherent.

I went to a private Lutheran school

No shit? I'd suggest they owe you an apology.



or my parents they paid for it!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:43:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By commando408:
One nation with liberty and justice for all.

Keep your god out of it.


I'm guessing you would be at odds with the Founders. Congress was often held at church & vise versa.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:43:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tolip:
"Under God" was added 56 years ago.


Now research WHO added it for a real slam to the face.

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:45:48 PM EDT
Wasn't the god part added in?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:46:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 3:47:37 PM EDT by TacticalMOLONLABE]

Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
Wasn't the god part added in?
Yesd in 1954 by George MacPherson Docherty
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:50:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 3:52:42 PM EDT by commando408]
Originally Posted By SuperJanitor:
Originally Posted By commando408:
One nation with liberty and justice for all.

Keep your god out of it.


I'm guessing you would be at odds with the Founders. Congress was often held at church & vise versa.

Perhaps it is you who is at odds with the founders.

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the Common Law." -T. Jefferson

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." -T. Paine

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." -J. Adams

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." -B. Franklin
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:57:36 PM EDT
OP I am an atheist and I love America. You are a Christian and you love America. We have a common enemy and that enemy is socialism.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:58:06 PM EDT
can we discus this without site staff banning someone? I did not mean to troll I just heard the pledge of allegiance on tv.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:00:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By VelociMorte:
Did you know that the Pledge was written by an avowed socialist, and the words "under god" were not added until the late 1950's?



That's their favorite part.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:03:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By momar:
can we discus this without site staff banning someone? I did not mean to troll I just heard the pledge of allegiance on tv.

The part that pisses me off is that the Pledge is beautiful but was written by a socialist
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:04:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By commando408:
Originally Posted By SuperJanitor:
Originally Posted By commando408:
One nation with liberty and justice for all.

Keep your god out of it.


I'm guessing you would be at odds with the Founders. Congress was often held at church & vise versa.

Perhaps it is you who is at odds with the founders.

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the Common Law." -T. Jefferson

"All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." -T. Paine

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." -J. Adams

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." -B. Franklin


Nice cherrypickings. Read some detailed writings from the period and it is crystal clear that Christian values were paramount in the shaping of this republic, whether you like it or not.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:05:32 PM EDT
well i Am done here for the evening someone please let me know if I hhttp://www.ar15.com/forums/manageReply.html?b=1&f=5&t=1089108&page=1#ave crossed the line.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:06:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TacticalMOLONLABE:
OP I am an atheist and I love America. You are a Christian and you love America. We have a common enemy and that enemy is socialism.


yes this !
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:07:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By momar:
well i Am done here for the evening someone please let me know if I hhttp://www.ar15.com/forums/manageReply.html?b=1&f=5&t=1089108&page=1#ave crossed the line.

Ok now I think you were trolling
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:08:39 PM EDT
why does it matter that i believe in God?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:09:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By momar:
Originally Posted By TacticalMOLONLABE:
OP I am an atheist and I love America. You are a Christian and you love America. We have a common enemy and that enemy is socialism.


yes this !

Some people think I am anti-Christian I am not. I would stand beside you Christians if it ever came to that I just hope you would do the same for us Atheists
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:11:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By momar:
why does it matter that i believe in God?

It doesn't matter if you believe in God just like it doesn't matter that I don't we are both proud Americans that is what matters
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:12:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CWDraco:

Originally Posted By Tolip:
"Under God" was added 56 years ago.


Now research WHO added it for a real slam to the face.



Wikipedia says Louis A. Bowman kicked off the idea and George MacPherson Docherty sealed the deal with a letter to Eisenhower.

Do you have more information?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:12:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TacticalMOLONLABE:

Originally Posted By momar:
Originally Posted By TacticalMOLONLABE:
OP I am an atheist and I love America. You are a Christian and you love America. We have a common enemy and that enemy is socialism.


yes this !

Some people think I am anti-Christian I am not. I would stand beside you Christians if it ever came to that I just hope you would do the same for us Atheists


If it is to preserve the Constitution and our founding principles, you betcha!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:13:26 PM EDT
ttyl!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:20:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 4:21:49 PM EDT by momar]
Originally Posted By SuperJanitor:
Originally Posted By TacticalMOLONLABE:

Originally Posted By momar:
Originally Posted By TacticalMOLONLABE:
OP I am an atheist and I love America. You are a Christian and you love America. We have a common enemy and that enemy is socialism.


yes this !

Some people think I am anti-Christian I am not. I would stand beside you Christians if it ever came to that I just hope you would do the same for us Atheists


If it is to preserve the Constitution and our founding principles, you betcha!


as long as you have 30 clips for your magazines i will stand on your side!


yes it is getting worse!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:33:36 PM EDT
NOW YOU"VE DONE IT!

You have said God on the internet.

The internet is worldwide and there are peace loving peoples that are offended.
(Of course a lot of them can't read or write, crap in a hole, and don't have the internet) but they are surely offended just
the same.

The MSM tells us so.

You have put our troops in danger.









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