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Posted: 9/10/2010 10:56:14 AM EDT
I picked up a new scope this morning for my 22-250. 4-12x40 Redfield Revolution.

Anyway, I picked up a 40 pack of Remington UMC 45gr to try out in it. Usually I use the 55gr soft points. These suckers are speed demons, 4000 fps muzzle velocity. Only drawback is that the group at about 1 inch at 100yds. The 55gr soft points were about 3/4 inch or tighter.

I figure that this set up will make a great coyote killer out to 200 yds


Remington 700 SPS


Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:00:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Beamy:
Anyway, I picked up a 40 pack of Remington UMC 45gr to try out in it. Usually I use the 55gr soft points. These suckers are speed demons, 4000 fps muzzle velocity.

Dont ever believe the box. Did you chrono them? My experience with Winchester is they are about 300-400fps off their quote.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:01:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FALARAK:

Originally Posted By Beamy:
Anyway, I picked up a 40 pack of Remington UMC 45gr to try out in it. Usually I use the 55gr soft points. These suckers are speed demons, 4000 fps muzzle velocity.

Dont ever believe the box. Did you chrono them? My experience with Winchester is they are about 300-400fps off their quote.


no I didn't chrono them, but yeah I know not to go by the factory muzzle veolocity
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:02:25 AM EDT
Nice rifle. A 22-250 is on my list.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:04:57 AM EDT
Tagged for high-velocity goodness.

When I was a kid, my brother and I were out shooting with our dad one day, and I found a piece of fired .22-250 brass. I was blown away by the case capacity. My dad knew what it was, and explained it to us. That was one of several very memorable moments that got me interested in firearms.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:09:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fcat:
Nice rifle. A 22-250 is on my list.

I used to own a Savage 22-250 for ground hog busting. I wish I never sold it.


Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:11:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 11:11:39 AM EDT by navvet89]
My dad has a Rem700 heavy barrel in 25/06 with a fixed 8x scope, ultra fine reticle, you can cut bullet holes with it at 50 yards. I'd love to find some prairie dogs to shoot it at :)

eta, the calibers are very similar
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:11:53 AM EDT
Nice rifle. One is on my list.


I have ammo, brass, and dies for it but no 22-250.

Go figure.


Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:14:56 AM EDT
The 22-250 ( I have 5) is a hand loaders dream.. EASY to load well and you will learn that 3600 fps to 3800fps in perfect... 4000 fps is possible but will kill a barrel pretty quick..
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:18:48 AM EDT
Don't use it for squirrel hunting like I did......

Rem VSF 22-250 45gr 250yds

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:19:41 AM EDT
"The .22-250 Remington is a high-velocity, short action, .22 caliber rifle cartridge primarily used for varmint hunting and small game hunting, though it finds occasional use on deer.[2] This cartridge is also sometimes known as the 22 Varminter or the 22 Wotkyns Original Swift.[3] Along with the .220 Swift, the .22-250 was one of the high-velocity 22 caliber cartridges that developed a reputation for remote wounding effects known as hydrostatic shock in the late 1930s and early 1940s.[4] The .22-250 penetrates steel plate better than the .30-06.[5]" - wikipedia

Pretty cool round

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:20:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By motocam25:
Don't use it for squirrel hunting like I did......

Rem VSF 22-250 45gr 250yds

http://images2c.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp538%3A7%3Enu%3D32%3B6%3E844%3E6­38%3EWSNRCG%3D35479%3B7237336nu0mrj



22-250 for zombie squirrels.
Nice



Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:21:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wgjhsafT:

Originally Posted By fcat:
Nice rifle. A 22-250 is on my list.

I used to own a Savage 22-250 for ground hog busting. I wish I never sold it.



My cousin is selling one as we speak. Don't know anything about it but if you're interested PM me and I'll get you in contact.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:22:27 AM EDT
Barrel length will throw off the rated FPS muzzle velocity
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:22:30 AM EDT
22-250 is a good round. You can download it to .22 Magnum or Hornet levels with Blue Dot and light bullets if you need to be "quiet" or you can load up some good bonded bullets and kill deer with it. And everything in between
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:22:43 AM EDT
Guy back home uses these (LINK) on groundhogs. Holy shite.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:25:57 AM EDT
For your reading enjoyment - deals with velovity vs barrel length, 223 not 22-250

http://www.accuratereloading.com/223sb.html
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:25:59 AM EDT
Should have got a swift instead.




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Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:28:56 AM EDT
I have the Savage Predator 10 with the Accutrigger in 22-250. I love that gun, I just need to kill a coyote with it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:33:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cwebbcam:
Should have got a swift instead.




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BAN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:41:10 AM EDT
I inherited my grandfathers Rem 700 ADL in 22-250 with a Weaver 4x. He killed countless deer with neck shots.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:43:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tall_texan_65:
I inherited my grandfathers Rem 700 ADL in 22-250 with a Weaver 4x. He killed countless deer with neck shots.


hang on to the rifle, if anything put another scope on it


granted my buddy's grandpa, who lives in Abilene TX killed plenty of those little Texas white tails and coyotes with a 700 ADL Carbine in 222 Rem with a fixed 4x scope
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:48:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cwebbcam:
Should have got a swift instead.




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Case flow is a bitch in the swift.. I improved all of mine so I could get longer case life.. A.I. (ACKLEY IMPROVED) is a bit to much though. I really love the weatherby rocket or the RCBS 30 degree
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 11:58:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cwebbcam:
Should have got a swift instead.




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Got one in a 40X quite a few years ago. 55g vmax @ 4100fps.. Woodchucks hate it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 12:04:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cwebbcam:
Should have got a swift instead.




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I dont think you can go wrong with either.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 12:06:41 PM EDT
<3 22-250 and 25-06... sadly I own neither
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 12:07:46 PM EDT
I love the 22-250 but switched to a .204 Ruger awhile back. Speed kills!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 12:17:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tall_texan_65:
I inherited my grandfathers Rem 700 ADL in 22-250 with a Weaver 4x. He killed countless deer with neck shots.




I love finding a reason to post this picture.

This was a .220 swift (like a .22-250, but better in every way) at about twelve steps. Culling does from a box blind for the property owner. I actually wound up with chunks of bone behind me.





Link Posted: 9/10/2010 12:18:55 PM EDT
beamy, why do you say the set up will be a great coyote killer out to 200 yards? looking at the ballistics charts, you should easily have plenty of energy out to 500 yards to kill a 'yote DRT. and it looks to be a flat shooting round as well. am i missing something?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 12:44:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cacinok:
beamy, why do you say the set up will be a great coyote killer out to 200 yards? looking at the ballistics charts, you should easily have plenty of energy out to 500 yards to kill a 'yote DRT. and it looks to be a flat shooting round as well. am i missing something?


I know the rifle, scope, and round are good out to that far. BUT, I'm not so sure about the shooter behind the rifle
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 12:52:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cwebbcam:
Should have got a swift instead.




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My grandpa has a .22-250; it's a Remington 788, and like all 788's I've ever known of, it's accurate all out of proportion to what it cost.



But I digress - I was gonna tell about my old .220 swift.


I went through a stage where I wanted the fastest, flattest thing I could get. So I found a Remington 700 VSF (varmint synthetic, fluted - not stainless) and put a leupold 4.5-14x50 on it. I bought dies and bullets and found a load it liked: a whole lot of IMR 3031 behind a Sierra 55 grain BTSP. It would routinely shoot (3-shot) groups in the .25MOA range, and chronographed 3865 FPS. I wish I'd kept it long enough to try a 10-round group in it, but, anyway....



I killed tons of stuff with that rifle and load. Coyotes, crows, stray dogs, you name it, I killed it. It was like a death ray. I think it was 2004 when I sold it, having lost interest in it. I miss it.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 12:55:50 PM EDT
I kill the shit out of hogs with a 220 Swift.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 1:00:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 1:14:03 PM EDT by cyborg543]
The 22-250 burns up barrels if you're not real careful

lots of powder gas venting thru a small bore = short barrel life

when these uber-velocity rounds first came out, everyone got all excited and started buying them for "dual purpose"

the problem is that they did not have really good small caliber bullets for hunting large game and the full velocity loads really roast barrels

so you had a lot of guys making really nasty shallow wounds on deer and burning up rifles in 100 rounds

so they fell out of favor except for varmint hunting, until the AR15 craze started and everyone declared the 223 to be the super-cartridge of the world.

personally, i think the 223 is superior to the 22-250. brass is way cheaper, barrel life is longer. might be more accurate as well.

if you hand load you can help your rifle out my down-loading the round to 223 levels.

otherwise, avoid heating the barrel up by firing too many shots. the heat in the barrel throat is the killer

how come you guys like parkerized rifles so much?

polished blued steel is a lot nicer looking.


it's the modern trend: really polished up pickup trucks with leather seats and rifles with the cheapest possible finish
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 1:32:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cyborg543:
The 22-250 burns up barrels if you're not real careful

lots of powder gas venting thru a small bore = short barrel life

when these uber-velocity rounds first came out, everyone got all excited and started buying them for "dual purpose"

the problem is that they did not have really good small caliber bullets for hunting large game and the full velocity loads really roast barrels

so you had a lot of guys making really nasty shallow wounds on deer and burning up rifles in 100 rounds

so they fell out of favor except for varmint hunting, until the AR15 craze started and everyone declared the 223 to be the super-cartridge of the world.

personally, i think the 223 is superior to the 22-250. brass is way cheaper, barrel life is longer. might be more accurate as well.

if you hand load you can help your rifle out my down-loading the round to 223 levels.

otherwise, avoid heating the barrel up by firing too many shots. the heat in the barrel throat is the killer

how come you guys like parkerized rifles so much?
polished blued steel is a lot nicer looking.


it's the modern trend: really polished up pickup trucks with leather seats and rifles with the cheapest possible finish


cause it's tacticool


Actually I am with you on that.. Yea, there are some that should be black with a park finish, but too much plastic anymore.. Infact I am probably going to put a maple stock on my stainless model seven.

Link Posted: 9/10/2010 1:38:42 PM EDT
Nice rifle. I agree that 200 yds. is selling yourself short. My little brother shoots crows at 200 with his Savage in .223
You'll be hitting coyotes way farther than that with THAT rig.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 1:47:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Shooter62:
Nice rifle. I agree that 200 yds. is selling yourself short. My little brother shoots crows at 200 with his Savage in .223
You'll be hitting coyotes way farther than that with THAT rig.


guess I'll need to practise more
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 1:53:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 1:54:31 PM EDT by RIA45ACP]
How is the scope? I've been thinking about picking one up for a 22. How do they compare to, say the lower end Leupolds or the old Redfields I have plenty of experience with the old ones.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:16:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
How is the scope? I've been thinking about picking one up for a 22. How do they compare to, say the lower end Leupolds or the old Redfields I have plenty of experience with the old ones.


I'm impressed with them so far

between this one and the 3-9x40 I have on my 308, I'm a convert

I have a used Leupold VXII 3-9x40, two Redfield 2-7x33s, and a Redfield 6x as well

these new Redfields are pretty much on the same level as my Leupold
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:16:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RIA45ACP:
How is the scope? I've been thinking about picking one up for a 22. How do they compare to, say the lower end Leupolds or the old Redfields I have plenty of experience with the old ones.

I put one of the Redfield 4x12x40 Revolutions on my Rem Model 7 in 7mm08, it's a good buy for the money, only had it out once to sight it in. The glass is not top of the line but it's much better than I expected. My only complaint is it has the old style eye piece adjustment instead of of a fast focus. With my eyes I have to adjust the scope a little if I change the power setting, so I'm thinking about leaving it on 6x for deer hunting. I would buy another one, they have a lifetime warranty, so you can't lose.

As to the 22-250 I have a Mod 7 Predator that is very accurate with the old recipe of 38 grs of H380, does a job on yotes and I have carried it deer hunting, just haven't killed one yet.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:25:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bob243:
Originally Posted By cyborg543:
The 22-250 burns up barrels if you're not real careful

lots of powder gas venting thru a small bore = short barrel life

when these uber-velocity rounds first came out, everyone got all excited and started buying them for "dual purpose"

the problem is that they did not have really good small caliber bullets for hunting large game and the full velocity loads really roast barrels

so you had a lot of guys making really nasty shallow wounds on deer and burning up rifles in 100 rounds

so they fell out of favor except for varmint hunting, until the AR15 craze started and everyone declared the 223 to be the super-cartridge of the world.

personally, i think the 223 is superior to the 22-250. brass is way cheaper, barrel life is longer. might be more accurate as well.

if you hand load you can help your rifle out my down-loading the round to 223 levels.

otherwise, avoid heating the barrel up by firing too many shots. the heat in the barrel throat is the killer

how come you guys like parkerized rifles so much?
polished blued steel is a lot nicer looking.


it's the modern trend: really polished up pickup trucks with leather seats and rifles with the cheapest possible finish


cause it's tacticool


Actually I am with you on that.. Yea, there are some that should be black with a park finish, but too much plastic anymore.. Infact I am probably going to put a maple stock on my stainless model seven.



I think the new laminate stocks are pretty slick
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:26:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Beamy:
I picked up a new scope this morning for my 22-250. 4-12x40 Redfield Revolution.

Anyway, I picked up a 40 pack of Remington UMC 45gr to try out in it. Usually I use the 55gr soft points. These suckers are speed demons, 4000 fps muzzle velocity. Only drawback is that the group at about 1 inch at 100yds. The 55gr soft points were about 3/4 inch or tighter.

I figure that this set up will make a great coyote killer out to 200 yds


Remington 700 SPS
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn150/beamy85/700sps22-250001.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn150/beamy85/700sps22-250002.jpg

Good looking set-up Beamy, should serve you well.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:33:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:49:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cyborg543:
The 22-250 burns up barrels if you're not real careful

lots of powder gas venting thru a small bore = short barrel life

when these uber-velocity rounds first came out, everyone got all excited and started buying them for "dual purpose"

the problem is that they did not have really good small caliber bullets for hunting large game and the full velocity loads really roast barrels

so you had a lot of guys making really nasty shallow wounds on deer and burning up rifles in 100 rounds

so they fell out of favor except for varmint hunting, until the AR15 craze started and everyone declared the 223 to be the super-cartridge of the world.

personally, i think the 223 is superior to the 22-250. brass is way cheaper, barrel life is longer. might be more accurate as well.

if you hand load you can help your rifle out my down-loading the round to 223 levels.

otherwise, avoid heating the barrel up by firing too many shots. the heat in the barrel throat is the killer

how come you guys like parkerized rifles so much?

polished blued steel is a lot nicer looking.


it's the modern trend: really polished up pickup trucks with leather seats and rifles with the cheapest possible finish


Did you leave off a zero? I ran full bore 4300fps loads threw my first 22-250 and it didn't start to open up on groups until the 1300ish mark.. I now run 3800fps on light bullets (45-53gr) and 3600fps on 55-60gr..

Yes the early bullet selection was not as good for big game but the 22-250 was NEVER intended for a big game round.. The Swift was touted as a big game rifle back in the 30's and had a bad habit of splotching..

In what world would a 223 be superior to a 22-250? I shoot both and that is just the silliest thing I have ever read...22-250 is faster flatter and carries far more energy.. that is how 99% of the shooting world judges performance...

The 223 is an easy to Tailor varmint round but if you have problems with a 22-250 you are doing something very wrong.. I have only seen one 22-250 that wouldn't group it was a home made bubba special on a k98 action.. I can say the same for 223.. Between Prairie dogs, rock chucks and coyotes i shoot over 5000 rounds of 22-250 per year..
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:55:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Maynard:
I just can't seem to grow that fond of my 250 even though with 40 grain Sierra BK bullets, it's a bag of 4000 fps rape:

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7070/im001880.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1129/im001929.jpg

I can't see my splashes though like I can with my Rem 700 in .17 Remington and the .17 has slightly superior ballistics out to 250 yards when comparing the Hornady .17 20 grain Vmax and the Sierra 40 grain BK.

Nice rifle you have there regardless.



Do you mean flatter trajectory? Because there is no way is has superior ballistics
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:06:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Beamy:
Originally Posted By Cacinok:
beamy, why do you say the set up will be a great coyote killer out to 200 yards? looking at the ballistics charts, you should easily have plenty of energy out to 500 yards to kill a 'yote DRT. and it looks to be a flat shooting round as well. am i missing something?


I know the rifle, scope, and round are good out to that far. BUT, I'm not so sure about the shooter behind the rifle


gotcha.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:12:48 PM EDT
I get a 4036 fps average for 40gr Blitz Kings out of my 22-250 and have shot over 1k of this load through the rifle. No change in accuracy yet.

When shooting varmints, the difference in splatter vs a .223 is not noticeable to me so I shoot a lot more 223 now.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:19:55 PM EDT
i bought a Ruger M 77 in 22-250 about 16 years ago. nice little shooter but i have put less than 50 roiunds through it in that much time.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 4:24:01 PM EDT
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