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Posted: 9/9/2010 6:09:37 PM EDT
I think this looks pretty sharp, nice heavy barrel and only 6.75 pounds.
I have been wanting a AK 47 this might just due, what say you ??

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:11:10 PM EDT
If you want an AK, get an AK.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:12:04 PM EDT
Dad has one of the older Mini 30s, he paid $275 for his for that price its a great gun.

I'm sure they want $600+ for that one and for that price its not that great of a gun IMO.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:12:32 PM EDT
For $900+ Rugar can keep that shit.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:12:51 PM EDT
No thanks.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:13:22 PM EDT
1. Are Ruger 20-round mags available at a sane price?
2. Will these have a .308 bore that won't work well with cheap Russian ammo?
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:15:13 PM EDT
Will this version be able to hit anything?
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:18:35 PM EDT
Sorry I forgot about all the Ruger hate.

It says 7.62x39

And have you seen the price of a good AK lately.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:20:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By phurba:
Will this version be able to hit anything?


It's got a HEAVY BARREL.






I'm sure you can swing it like a bat pretty well.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:22:11 PM EDT
THey had a great concept of a all around decent gun at the right price. They have since smoked crack at the dump and lost their mind.

The mini rifles were average to decent but at the right price. They were to be the truck gun for the masses. Then they went and tripled the price So now they sell and over priced middle of the road rifle at a premium price. I got an Arsenal inc SLR105 with 5000 rounds , pile of mags and a sling for the price of that rifle Not to mention the SKS-M I got with a dozen of mags and several hundred rounds for a quarter that price!

Bolth were off the EE and bolth will definatly serve me better than that rugar they want just short of a grand for!

Shop around and get something decent at a good price! Members here dont seem to sell at a premium. They seem to sell at a "somone buy this so I can hurry up and go get my new toy I want!" The EE is your friend!
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:22:50 PM EDT
They also have a "tactical" 10/22. The mini-thirty actually looks pretty good and they will probably go for around $650 (the mini-14 tactical has a similar inflated msrp but they sell for much less). However, I would get an Arsenal SGL-21 since the AK is a much more proven

system (especially one from a Russian factory and modified by a respected US firm). Magazines are also a shit load cheaper and better than the Ruger designs.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:23:10 PM EDT
why?
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:23:15 PM EDT
Looks nice.

Who compared it to a shitty AK?
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:24:25 PM EDT
I think the mini 30's are cool enough carbines but not at the price in todays market.. I'd say if you originally wanted an AK I would follow through on that.. you have a lot of options in the same price point that mini would set you back...
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:25:53 PM EDT
I'll pass.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:26:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
Sorry I forgot about all the Ruger hate.

It says 7.62x39

And have you seen the price of a good AK lately.
yeah about $700. quality mags run oh about $9 a piece.

i guess if i was stuck in some shithole like California i might buy a mini.

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:27:21 PM EDT
AK>Mini 30

when did it become ok for Mini's to cost as much as they do? I had a buddy buy one for $450 and he got a shitty deal... that was 3 years ago. Lack of magazine that are decent capacity plus the price of the 30 rounders that work are ridiculous. Just get an AK and never look back.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:27:41 PM EDT
Fuck for that kind of dough you can buy a REALLLY nice AK which actually feeds properly out of almost any com-bloc mag and would actually be more accurate than the Ruger.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:28:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
And have you seen the price of a good AK lately.

I can buy Arsenal 107Fs all day long for approximately the same price as that Ruger abomination.

An AK that is reliable.
An AK that takes AK magazines.
An AK that isn't made by a company with a track record of selling out the 2nd Amendment in an attempt to turn an extra buck.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

If you can't find a quality AK in the same price point as the "Mini 30 Tactical" then you're not looking hard enough.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:31:34 PM EDT
Bear in mind that a Mini-30 will NOT chew thru mil-surp ammo like a regular AK. I had one, and after
about 2 thirty-round mags, the devil was fouled-up good and would no longer cycle. As I recall, the owner's
manual recommended using only factory fresh commercial loads. Have fun otherwise!
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:31:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mmsurber:
If you want an AK, get an AK.

You won't look back.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:34:16 PM EDT
Why doesn't Ruger sell one that uses AK magazines? That'd probably do a lot to broaden it's appeal.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:34:43 PM EDT
Is the checkered dear rifle stock what makes it tactical?
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:37:45 PM EDT
The Ruger hate is strong in this thread.

Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less.
And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's

Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day.

SKS's are cheap for a reason.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:41:14 PM EDT
go ahead and buy it and then let us know how it works out for you
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:44:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
The Ruger hate is strong in this thread.

Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less.
And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's

Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day.

SKS's are cheap for a reason.

i paid $560 otd for my arsenal SGL21-61. 10 30 round mags set me back, after shipping about $100 from AIM. oh and here is a 5 shot group i fired while zeroing at 25 yards with irons:




a good AK is a much better product for less money.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:46:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 6:47:20 PM EDT by Drewcoolness]
Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
The Ruger hate is strong in this thread.

Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less.
And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's

Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day.

SKS's are cheap for a reason.


it's the equivalent of Sarah Brady marketing a rifle....

I don't know about the outshooting an AK, the the ruger will probably lose.

and SKS's were cheap because Supply > Demand. But now there up to $250 - 300 or so and that's where the ruger's should be.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:48:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
The Ruger hate is strong in this thread.

Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less.
And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's

Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day.

SKS's are cheap for a reason.

I doubt this will out shoot any AKs if you're running .311 Wolf or surplus ammo through a .308 bore. I have a feeling that the only accurate ammo choices for this will be American brass-cased offerings, and that combo probably won't be that much more accurate than an SKS loaded with Yugo surplus.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:49:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By phurba:
Will this version be able to hit anything?


Who cares - it's the choice of movie stars.

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:51:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By omar:
Originally Posted By phurba:
Will this version be able to hit anything?


Who cares - it's the choice of movie stars.



And if you can't hit anything, you can read the manual off the side of the receiver and find out why.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:53:03 PM EDT
Nope

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:54:54 PM EDT
For the price of the Ruger you can almost buy 2 of these



Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:58:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
The Ruger hate is strong in this thread.

Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less.
And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's

Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day.

SKS's are cheap for a reason.


You are sadly mistaken

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:00:06 PM EDT
There was no mention of barrel lining. That would be a big deal breaker for many people looking to shoot 7.62x39 in the budget category.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:07:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wkett:
For the price of the Ruger you can almost buy 2 of these

http://www.raacfirearms.com/images/p_saiga.jpg


can that accept regular AK mags?
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:09:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 7:11:14 PM EDT by cda97]
Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
I think this looks pretty sharp, nice heavy barrel and only 6.75 pounds.
I have been wanting a AK 47 this might just due, what say you ??

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5YeA3ys09sE/TImRrp7wD_I/AAAAAAAAApA/pnozWkGviJM/s400/Mini%2030.jpg


I would purchase an AK series rifle before ever considering that rifle.

Mags and ammo are cheaper and more plentiful.

Edit: If that rifle is truly chambered for 7.62 X 39 than Ruger is fucking stupid to even compete with an AK.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:22:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:26:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BattletweeteR:

Originally Posted By wkett:
For the price of the Ruger you can almost buy 2 of these

http://www.raacfirearms.com/images/p_saiga.jpg


can that accept regular AK mags?


Not out of the box, but with the aid of a small piece of pipe for the feed ramp and a little dremel work they can. Or you can modify the mags, but most people prefer to modify the receiver.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:27:09 PM EDT
Not out of the box, but add a bullet guide, file the latch a bit, and you're good to go.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:28:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:36:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
I think this looks pretty sharp, nice heavy barrel and only 6.75 pounds.
I have been wanting a AK 47 this might just due, what say you ??

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5YeA3ys09sE/TImRrp7wD_I/AAAAAAAAApA/pnozWkGviJM/s400/Mini%2030.jpg



Buy a VZ-58 or an AK, both better, both cheaper if you look around online for more than 3 minutes.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:42:53 PM EDT
Don't forget the light primer strikes on the milsurp ammo on the 30.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:47:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
I think this looks pretty sharp, nice heavy barrel and only 6.75 pounds.
I have been wanting a AK 47 this might just due, what say you ??

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5YeA3ys09sE/TImRrp7wD_I/AAAAAAAAApA/pnozWkGviJM/s400/Mini%2030.jpg

This is a joke, right? A new Ruger Mini is waaay overpriced, despite its tacticool appearance; a decent used Mini for about $300-400 is what you want.

Look, if you want a Mini, then get a Mini: It's your money, and as long as you don't expect it to be a tack-driver at 100 yards it will be a good rifle that will serve you well.

But compared to the AK you don't get very much for the money.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:49:05 PM EDT
I have nothing against Ruger. I love their bolt actions and the LCR. However, what does this gun to that an SKS doesn't, besides costing twice as much?
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:55:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
The Ruger hate is strong in this thread.

Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less.
And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's

Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day.

SKS's are cheap for a reason.


Have you even fired an AK or SKS variant?

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:56:26 PM EDT
I've seen like new Russian SKS rifles at recent gun shows for less than any MSRP you will get on that, and I'll bet a case of beer that my Tula SKS is more accurate than the Mini-30.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:57:54 PM EDT
Costs twice what it is worth.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 7:58:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By WarWeapon762:
Originally Posted By DanimalFL:
The Ruger hate is strong in this thread.

Yes the MSRP is high I'm sure you can get it for less.
And people are paying 600-700 for 50 year old AK's

Is it accurate I don't know but I'm sure it will out shoot any AK on it's worse day.

SKS's are cheap for a reason.


Have you even fired an AK or SKS variant?



I am sure he pwns at Counter-Strike, yo.

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:05:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:07:20 PM EDT
Not worth the money
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:23:37 PM EDT
the A Team approves

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