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Posted: 9/9/2010 10:36:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 10:39:15 AM EDT by MiG-21]
NO BEANS!!!

http://www.chili.org/rules.html

2. CHILI MUST:

a. Be cooked on site the day of the cookoff.

b. Be prepared from scratch (no commercial chili mixes).

c. Contain no fillers (beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, etc.)

d. Be prepared in as sanitary a manner as possible.

1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.

2) Cooking conditions are subject to inspection.

e. Be prepared in the open (no motorhomes, closed tents, etc.).




Link Posted: 9/9/2010 10:38:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 10:39:03 AM EDT by Gloftoe]
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 10:49:10 AM EDT
I could have told you that a long time ago.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 10:54:48 AM EDT
No one has ever posted that before.

I'm glad the matter is finally settled.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:03:39 AM EDT
Your "chili" is substandard because it lacks beans.



The matter SHOULD be settled: Make what you like and let others make what THEY like. If you don't like someone else's recipe,
don't make it or eat it.

CJ


Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:05:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fiver:
No one has ever posted that before.

I'm glad the matter is finally settled.


+1

Thanks for clearing that up for us.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:08:40 AM EDT
this is a new and enlightening angle to the argument
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:08:46 AM EDT
Sounds like a good rule to me.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:30:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By krpind:
Originally Posted By fiver:
No one has ever posted that before.

I'm glad the matter is finally settled.


+1

Thanks for clearing that up for us.


Oh yeah I'm posative ! 100% of Arfcom will now agree about something.
















NOT
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:34:39 AM EDT
CASI is from Texas, home of the finest meat sauce in the world.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:36:59 AM EDT
Enjoy your spicy meat sauce, then.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 2:58:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 2:59:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Gloftoe:
Originally Posted By LOW2000:
CASI is from Texas, home of the finest meat sauce in the world.


I know of at least one Californian that knows how to make proper (beanless) chili.


Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:02:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 3:02:27 PM EDT by Dragracer]
Originally Posted By MiG-21:
1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.


Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:02:42 PM EDT
The real question now, 'are potatoes allowed?'.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:07:07 PM EDT
This matter will never be settled, some members will take it to the grave.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:07:37 PM EDT
So fucking petty.


Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:08:32 PM EDT
But what about 9mm vs 45ACP?
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:11:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 3:12:17 PM EDT by JLH3]

Originally Posted By TerribleTom:
But what about 9mm vs 45ACP?


Can't you read?

http://www.chili.org/rules.html

2. CHILI MUST:

a. Be cooked on site the day of the cookoff.

b. Be prepared from scratch (no commercial chili mixes).

c. Contain no fillers (beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, etc.)

d. Be prepared in as sanitary a manner as possible.

1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.

2) Cooking conditions are subject to inspection.

e. Be prepared in the open (no motorhomes, closed tents, etc.).

3) If you carry a 9mm pistol, you will be disqualified.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:16:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LOW2000:
CASI is from Texas, home of the finest meat sauce in the world.

Fixed that for you by highlighting the important part in the color of a kidney bean.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:19:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Anteater1717:
The real question now, 'are potatoes allowed?'.


wtf?
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:19:46 PM EDT
Meh, I like chili either way, with or without beans.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:21:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By glk38:
Originally Posted By Anteater1717:
The real question now, 'are potatoes allowed?'.


wtf?


Do it , then get back to me. I think you'll be rather pleased with the results.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:27:27 PM EDT
Mayans made chili millenia ago WITH beans in it.

Just because Texans decided to call it "chili" and wrote some rule book doesn't mean they can change the definition of what goes into chili.

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:33:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Anteater1717:
The real question now, 'are potatoes allowed?'.


I'm pretty sure both the "beans" and the "no beans" factions would both agree on beating you up. (regardless of how well they worked out).
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:34:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 3:36:40 PM EDT by Shootist_Jeff]

Originally Posted By MiG-21:
NO BEANS!!!

http://www.chili.org/rules.html

2. CHILI MUST:

a. Be cooked on site the day of the cookoff.

b. Be prepared from scratch (no commercial chili mixes).

c. Contain no fillers (beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, etc.)

d. Be prepared in as sanitary a manner as possible.

1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.

2) Cooking conditions are subject to inspection.

e. Be prepared in the open (no motorhomes, closed tents, etc.).





Apparently, if it's made under a roof, it's not chili. I'm sure that's how most people have their chili since shelters ruin the flavor.

Rather ironic when you consider point 2d.

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 3:53:18 PM EDT
This does not really "settle" anything...

What should have settled it from the start, and why anyone cannot grasp this eternally simple concept I will never figure out, is the actual name of "chili"...

It is called: Chili con carne (Chili with meat for those who do not speak spanish)

It is NOT called: Chili con carne y frijoles (chili with meat and beans)

Therefore, by the name alone, we know that beans have been systematically and purposefully excluded from true chili since the very beginning.

That being said... I like beans in my chili personally so I tend to sway that direction even though I am a native Texan, but even I understand that what I prefer to eat is no longer considered "true chili".
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 4:24:42 PM EDT
That makes as much sense as citing the rules of Scrabble to critique somebody's vocabulary.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 4:26:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MiG-21:
NO BEANS!!!

http://www.chili.org/rules.html

2. CHILI MUST:

a. Be cooked on site the day of the cookoff.

b. Be prepared from scratch (no commercial chili mixes).

c. Contain no fillers (beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, etc.)

d. Be prepared in as sanitary a manner as possible.

1) You must be willing to taste your own chili.

2) Cooking conditions are subject to inspection.

e. Be prepared in the open (no motorhomes, closed tents, etc.).






Beans are NOT filler... Beans are so you can share with your friends...
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 4:32:52 PM EDT
Oh, you're wasting your breath; people will have beans in their chili and no damn book or set of rules will change that...

"Scuse me, i have a bowl of chili with beans waiting for me in the kitchen.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:45:44 PM EDT
Bump for night crew.....as I enjoy a bowl of beanless chili
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:50:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AJSully421:
This does not really "settle" anything...

What should have settled it from the start, and why anyone cannot grasp this eternally simple concept I will never figure out, is the actual name of "chili"...

It is called: Chili con carne (Chili with meat for those who do not speak spanish)

It is NOT called: Chili con carne y frijoles (chili with meat and beans)

Therefore, by the name alone, we know that beans have been systematically and purposefully excluded from true chili since the very beginning.

That being said... I like beans in my chili personally so I tend to sway that direction even though I am a native Texan, but even I understand that what I prefer to eat is no longer considered "true chili".

So then what is Chili without carne? Bean soup right? So really, its a matter of do you like your bean soup with, or without meat.

Arfcom has the question backwards.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 12:14:36 AM EDT
No beans have been settled long ago.

Chili w/beans is just that, nothing wrong w/it, just not chili.

WTF was the pic posted above supposed to be anyway???
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:27:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AJSully421:
This does not really "settle" anything...

What should have settled it from the start, and why anyone cannot grasp this eternally simple concept I will never figure out, is the actual name of "chili"...

It is called: Chili con carne (Chili with meat for those who do not speak spanish)

It is NOT called: Chili con carne y frijoles (chili with meat and beans)

Therefore, by the name alone, we know that beans have been systematically and purposefully excluded from true chili since the very beginning.

That being said... I like beans in my chili personally so I tend to sway that direction even though I am a native Texan, but even I understand that what I prefer to eat is no longer considered "true chili".


Most people put onions in chili and it is not called chili con carne y onions so what is your point?
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:43:16 AM EDT
So, these experts in what chili is and is not, chose this recipe as the winner in 2009, according to the rules above.

Step 1
2 lbs. course ground beef (chili grind)
1 TBS Cooking Oil
1 TBS Granulated Onion

Add ingredients together and lightly brown meat

Step 2
Add:
1 Can (8 oz) Tomato Sauce
1 Can Beef Broth

Cook for 30 minutes

Step 3
Add:
1 TBS Light Chili Powder
2 TBS Dark Chili Powder
1 tsp Garlic Powder
½ tsp Salt
½ TBS Ground Cumin
½ tsp Cayenne Pepper
½ tsp Black Pepper
1 tsp Chicken Granules (or 1 cube)

Cook for 1 hour

Step 4:
Add:
1 TBS Light Chili Powder
1 TBS Dark Chili Powder
1 tsp Paprika
½ TBS Ground Cumin

Add water if needed

Leave covered and simmer for 30 minute


So yeah, at this point, I dispute Chili.org's right to decide what is and is not chili, because they obviously don't have a clue. Among thousands of things that would make this spice catastrophe an actual edible substance, beans would be in the top 5.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 2:51:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Fearlessleader01:
Mayans made chili millenia ago WITH beans in it.

Just because Texans decided to call it "chili" and wrote some rule book doesn't mean they can change the definition of what goes into chili.

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Fearlessleader01/ChiliMotivator.jpg


Sure they put beans in their chili.

Then they went extinct....
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 3:00:35 AM EDT
The way I see it, chili itself does not have beans. However you shouldn't be eating just chili. Either put it on or in another food. Or add beans to it and make, "Chili With Beans".
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 5:15:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Mosin_Nagant:
The way I see it, chili itself does not have beans. However you shouldn't be eating just chili. Either put it on or in another food. Or add beans to it and make, "Chili With Beans".


Pour some over a hot dog or cheese-filled bratwurst! YUM!
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:00:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 6:00:39 AM EDT by Gloftoe]
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:19:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
Your "chili" is substandard because it lacks beans.



The matter SHOULD be settled: Make what you like and let others make what THEY like. If you don't like someone else's recipe,
don't make it or eat it.

CJ




I agree, beans are an ingredient, so is meat. Don't like it, don't put it in, 'nuff said.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:30:32 AM EDT
I'm sorry, but chili "without beans" is just.....meat soup.

Beans are a requirement.
Link Posted: 9/10/2010 6:44:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/10/2010 6:45:12 AM EDT by edb66]



Chili sin carne.
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