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Posted: 9/8/2010 10:46:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 10:49:27 PM EDT
Always count on a Democrat to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 11:18:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Frost7:
Always count on a Democrat to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


And be proud of their "accomplishment".
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 11:22:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2010 11:26:37 PM EDT by Ex0331]
When a politician puts an end date without waiting for total victory, there will be loss.

Didnt this community orgionizer read this crap back in the late 60's early 70's with results?

Wars are won by defeating the enemy. No room for allowing sympathetics and war fighters to wait for an end date.

Whatever happened to defeating the enemy into total submission? It worked in the past. Since after WWI, ,things got pansied for us and the world.



We will pull out (due to the TOTUS), the enemy will wait, and regain the gains suffered by so many of out service troops in harms way. Nothing will be of matter after this. We will basically have surrendered. Doesnt take a rocket surgeon to play this game we do now.

Whatever happened to war till the end of the enemy?
More in depth discussions are relevant and necessary in this matter that brings what we believe to the core and what is happening in the world arena.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 11:35:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2010 11:44:17 PM EDT by Hatemachine]
Originally Posted By Ex0331:
When a politician puts an end date without waiting for total victory, there will be loss.

Didnt this community orgionizer read this crap back in the late 60's early 70's with results?

Wars are won by defeating the enemy. No room for allowing sympathetics and war fighters to wait for an end date.

Whatever happened to defeating the enemy into total submission? It worked in the past. Since after WWI, ,things got pansied for us and the world.



We will pull out (due to the TOTUS), the enemy will wait, and regain the gains suffered by so many of out service troops in harms way. Nothing will be of matter after this. We will basically have surrendered. Doesnt take a rocket surgeon to play this game we do now.

Whatever happened to war till the end of the enemy?
More in depth discussions are relevant and necessary in this matter that brings what we believe to the core and what is happening in the world arena.


Ever since Truman and his advisors invented the concept of "limited warfare" and "measured response" in order to keep another bloodbath like WWI and WWII from happening we have not won a clear and decisive victory. Even the Gulf War couldn't really be considered a total victory since Saddam and his government were still in power and continued to thumb their collective noses at the treaty he signed.
But then again fighting religious fanatics in a poverty stricken region is whole different ball game than fighting a political ideology like nazism, and trying to institute a western democracy in a place that's never seen that probably isn't the best idea for long term stability.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 11:37:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Hatemachine:
Ever since Truman and his advisors invented the concept of "limited warfare" and "measured response" in order to keep another bloodbath like WWI and WWII from happening we have not won a clear and decisive victory. Even the Gulf War couldn't really be considered a total victory since Saddam and his government were still in power and continued to thumb their collective noses at the treaty he signed.


Didn't Russia use a total-war policy in that same country? What makes you think that we will succeed with that tactic where they have failed?

Link Posted: 9/8/2010 11:43:45 PM EDT
oblama won't even utter the word victory.
The "tollybon" couldn't be more correct in their assessment.

Maybe when it's all said and done oblama can go over there and bow down to em.


Our troops shouldn't be there at all without the support they deserve.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 11:46:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 12:26:21 AM EDT by Hatemachine]
Originally Posted By Bakelite47:
Originally Posted By Hatemachine:
Ever since Truman and his advisors invented the concept of "limited warfare" and "measured response" in order to keep another bloodbath like WWI and WWII from happening we have not won a clear and decisive victory. Even the Gulf War couldn't really be considered a total victory since Saddam and his government were still in power and continued to thumb their collective noses at the treaty he signed.


Didn't Russia use a total-war policy in that same country? What makes you think that we will succeed with that tactic where they have failed?



I didn't say it would. This kind of war is different than anything we've done before.We're fighting religious zealots who are well financed,have 10 years experience fighting a conventional army,operate without boarders,and who would probably prefer death to a long life in the poverty stricken shit hole that is their home. We could write books on various strategies to try and win in A-stan but most of it boils down to the fact we don't have the manpower,money, or strength of will to make any of them work IMO.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 11:48:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2010 11:51:21 PM EDT by flyfishnepa]

in all honesty i think obama is going to strike a deal with the taliban and allow Iraq to descend back into chaos and destroy all the progress our troops have made



Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:03:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By flyfishnepa:

in all honesty i think obama is going to strike a deal with the taliban and allow Iraq to descend back into chaos and destroy all the progress our troops have made




on the upside... his approval ratings would be relegated to only the moonbats.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:09:47 AM EDT
What cowards, nothing like giving a press conference while hidden in some basement deep in the slums of Pakistan until the end of time.
I almost think that there is a direct relation to the cowardice of ones army and the amount of public exposure of it's commanders.

I look forward to the headline "Omar killed in drone attack", that is if he ever moves from the shelter of populated Pakistan.
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