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Posted: 9/8/2010 4:23:18 PM EDT
Health care fight likely to flare anew if GOP reclaims Congress
By Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar
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Associated Press
7:30 p.m., Tuesday, September 7, 2010

If you thought passing the health care overhaul was messy, wait until Republicans try to repeal it if they regain power this fall.

It could come down to who blinks first, with some Republicans raising the prospect of a government shutdown.

Even if Republicans succeed beyond any current predictions and capture both the Senate and the House, they wouldn't have enough GOP votes to overcome President Obama's veto.

But Republicans could still fall back on the congressional power of the purse, denying the administration billions of dollars to carry out the most far-reaching social legislation since Medicare and Medicaid.

"The endgame is a fight over funding," said Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican.

Faced with an opposition Congress "defunding" his health care plan, would Mr. Obama make a stand? Would he risk shutting down the Health and Human Services department, the IRS, or perhaps even the whole government?

"At that point, does he let everything else go?" asked former Rep. Thomas M. Davis III, Virginia Republican, who was elected in the GOP wave of 1994. "The game will be, does he shut the government down? Republicans can say, 'We gave him the money to fund other programs. "

Mr. Davis, a moderate who watched then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich lose a confrontation with then-President Clinton over a government shutdown, cautioned both sides: "The question is, do you win that argument or not?"

White House officials wouldn't comment.

The No. 2 House Democrat dismissed the talk of repeal as wishful thinking by Republicans. Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer, Maryland Democrat, said he's confident Democrats will stay in charge.

Even if Republicans win, "they can beat their chests and say they won't fund the implementation of the law, but I think the law is the law, and if you can't change it, then, frankly, you have a responsibility to carry it out," Mr. Hoyer said.

But months after Mr. Obama signed the legislation, extensive efforts by his administration to tout its benefits for seniors and families, small employers and large corporations, have failed to rally public opinion.

Major components such as taxpayer-subsidized coverage for millions now uninsured, an IRS-enforced mandate that most Americans carry a policy, and guaranteed coverage for people in poor health are still more than three years away.

That's a tantalizing opportunity for Republicans, and repealing "Obamacare" has become a campaign slogan in their drive to take the House. Some have proposed replacing the law with more modest alternatives.

"Repeal and replace" was the centerpiece this week on America Speaking Out, a website sponsored by the House GOP. They didn't mince words.

"Obamacare will have dire consequences for our nation," Rep. Steve King, Iowa Republican, warned in a video on the site. "President Obama dismantled the finest medical system in the world and replaced it with a failed socialist model. The president nationalized your skin and everything inside it, and he enlarged the scope of the IRS by granting the agency the power to confiscate the assets of American who refuse to submit to the nanny state."

Nothing of the sort, say health care law backers. The law's requirement that most Americans carry insurance comes from a Republican proposal in the 1990s health care debate. Congress rejected a Medicare-like government option for all Americans that was the top priority for the political left. Most Americans will still have private insurance 10 years from now, backers say.

Nonetheless, an advocacy arm of the Heritage Foundation, the prominent conservative think tank, is backing Mr. King's effort to force a floor vote on repeal soon.

Mr. Hoyer thinks that's easier said than done. If Republicans win, "I think they would have second thoughts about repealing health care," the Democratic leader predicted.

If Republicans win back the House, expect a House floor vote on repeal in short order, whether or not the GOP also controls the Senate. That's the opening move, to send a message. What happens next is anybody's guess.

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky sought to lower expectations.

"I would like to repeal it and replace it," Mr. McConnell told home state reporters recently. "What can we do? We can make narrow targeted efforts to go after the cost problems. Without the president, we can't repeal it. But we can go after portions of it aggressively."

One provision of the law is already on its way to being rescinded - a requirement that nearly 40 million businesses file tax forms for every vendor that sells them more than $600 in goods. Other targets include the fines for people who refuse to get coverage and a new long-term care insurance program.

If Republicans get back in power, Mr. Coburn doesn't think they can back off on repeal.

"If the Republicans are in control, and they fund it - they're history," he warned.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/7/health-care-fight-likely-to-flare-anew-if-gop-recl/
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:26:17 PM EDT
[#1]
It could come down to who blinks first, with some Republicans raising the prospect of a government shutdown.




I'm just fine with that.  Government is out of control and driving us to destruction.  Shut the fucker off for awhile.

Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:32:15 PM EDT
[#2]
Damn straight.  When the government does only destructive things, it's BETTER when it's shut down.





Total governmental paralysis...it's a thought that makes me smile.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:34:37 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
It could come down to who blinks first, with some Republicans raising the prospect of a government shutdown.


I'm just fine with that.  Government is out of control and driving us to destruction.  Shut the fucker off for awhile.


A repeal of Obamacare followed by a shutdown of .gov would be my dream come true.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:35:39 PM EDT
[#4]



Quoted:



Quoted:


It could come down to who blinks first, with some Republicans raising the prospect of a government shutdown.




I'm just fine with that.  Government is out of control and driving us to destruction.  Shut the fucker off for awhile.





A repeal of Obamacare followed by a shutdown of .gov would be my dream come true.


no shit.  it worked for balancing the budget last time ;)



 
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:38:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Quoted:
It could come down to who blinks first, with some Republicans raising the prospect of a government shutdown.


I'm just fine with that.  Government is out of control and driving us to destruction.  Shut the fucker off for awhile.


A repeal of Obamacare followed by a shutdown of .gov would be my dream come true.


Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:41:05 PM EDT
[#6]
The commies won't be able to risk a shutdown that lasts too long.  People might realize that we don't need them as much as they'd like us to believe.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:43:41 PM EDT
[#7]
No way they're getting a veto proof majority. But yeah, I can see them acting like the petulant children that they are and pursuing a government shutdown. Oh well, gridlock is better than the alternative.
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