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Posted: 9/8/2010 2:28:48 PM EDT
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Police Chief Charlie Beck pleaded for calm and vowed his department would conduct an exhaustive investigation into a bicycle officer's fatal shooting of a drunken day laborer with a knife.

But his words did little to dissuade demonstrators, who spilled into the streets for a second straight night Tuesday - some to pray and light candles and others to pelt a police station near downtown Los Angeles with eggs, rocks and bottles.

Police reported 22 arrests on Tuesday night, mainly for failure to disperse and unlawful assembly, Officer Karen Rayner said.

Officers fired at least two rounds of nonlethal foam projectiles at demonstrators, Rayner said. No injuries to officers or civilians were reported.

Guatemalan immigrant Manuel Jamines, 37, was shot twice by a police officer Sunday afternoon near MacArthur Park, a poor neighborhood packed with recent immigrants from Central America.

On Monday, four people were arrested on suspicion of misdemeanor inciting a riot, and others threw rocks and bottles at police, slightly injuring three officers, Officer Bruce Borihanh said.

On Tuesday, about 300 protesters took their complaints to the police station only two blocks from where Jamines died, said Lt. Andrew Neiman. Officers tried to move the demonstrators away from the station and keep them away from the park.

A citywide tactical alert was called to free up officers to respond to the area, Rayner said.

Beck said the incident involving Jamines started when someone flagged down three bicycle officers to tell them a man was threatening people with a knife.
The officers approached the suspect and told him in Spanish and English to put down the weapon. Instead, Jamines raised the knife above his head and lunged at Officer Frank Hernandez, a 13-year veteran of the department, Beck said.


Eyewitness accounts from six civilians, nine police personnel and two fire department staff indicate Hernandez fired twice "in immediate defense of life," Beck said. Jamines, 37, died at the scene.

Investigators recovered a bloody, 6-inch knife at the scene but didn't know where the blood came from.

"This was a very brief moment in time, just 40 seconds between first contact and the time of the shooting," Beck said.

Beck said the timeline was based on preliminary interviews. He said the department's Force Investigation Division will conduct a thorough, transparent probe.

The three officers involved in the shooting have been temporarily reassigned during the investigation.

Jamines had a wife and three children - ages 13, 6 and 8 - in his hometown of Mazatenango, Guatemala, according to his cousin Juan Jaminez, 38. He came to the United States six years ago to find work as a day laborer and spent most of his time looking for jobs in a Home Depot parking lot near his home.

Jamines was drunk but not dangerous, his cousin and neighbors said.

"Killing a drunk isn't right," said Juan Jaminez, also a day laborer. He and others described Jamines as a friendly, hardworking man who liked to drink on the weekends but wasn't violent.

"The officer who did this should be subject to discipline and a thorough investigation," said Juan Flores, 39, a cook at a downtown restaurant who knew Jamines. "We want to know, is he on vacation or is he fired?"

Flores said the officers should have used a non-lethal weapon to subdue Jamines.

Beck said the officer involved in the shooting didn't have a baton or stun gun with him. He said bicycle officers frequently do not carry the selection of non-lethal weapons found in patrol cars.

Juana Neri, 57, a Mexican immigrant housewife who lives nearby, pushed her grocery bag in a baby stroller past the corner where Jamines was killed.

"It's bad, what the police did, but what's worse is the silly stuff that people were doing here," she said, referring to Monday's violence. "We are not in our country, and with the problems that Hispanic immigrants have these days, it's better not to cause problems."

MacArthur Park was the site of a May 1, 2007, clash in which police officers pummeled immigration rights marchers and reporters with batons and shot rubber bullets into the crowd. Dozens of protesters and journalists were injured. Police said it began with a group of "agitators" outside the park throwing objects at officers.


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100908/D9I3K8IO0.html

Unless there is more to the story... then good shoot.

This is more of a 'shooting a immigrant' thing than 'shooting a drunken man' situation.. me thinks.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:10:28 PM EDT
You are an insensitive troglodyte, sir.

Those people want drunken men with knives wandering the streets threatening them, it reminds them of home.
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Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:16:14 PM EDT
I saw the footage of the rioters surrounding squad cars, all I could think was that they should install an OC sprinkler system in the light bars. Riots like this should not be tolerated.

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Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:16:38 PM EDT
Well done, officer. I suggest doing it again, just for good measure.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:18:16 PM EDT
Minigun.
Originally Posted By sixnine:
I saw the footage of the rioters surrounding squad cars, all I could think was that they should install an OC sprinkler system in the light bars. Riots like this should not be tolerated.

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Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:20:16 PM EDT
Good shoot, bad riot.

Was the immgrant here legally?
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:22:11 PM EDT
There is absolutely no truth to the rumors that the complaining people have applied for jobs with LAPD so that they can use gentle methods to deal with drunks with knives
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:22:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
Good shoot, bad riot.

Was the immgrant here legally?

Irrelevant, you filthy tea bagging racist!
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:22:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By arowneragain:
Good shoot, bad riot.

Was the immgrant here legally?



This is a very good question.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:23:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2010 3:28:45 PM EDT by smokycity]
It's being turned into a the police are anti-immigrant campaign by the people who are looking for a reason to riot. I wonder how many of the riot instigators are pro Atzlan and/or La Raza.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:24:28 PM EDT
If they'd stop putting up with this bullshit and shoot a couple protesters every once in a while this shit would stop.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:24:39 PM EDT
Good shoot.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:28:29 PM EDT
They don't really give a shit about a drunk trying to stab an officer, they have just been convinced by the left that they are oppressed by being illegal immigrants in the United States.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:29:34 PM EDT
As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:29:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By arowneragain:
Good shoot, bad riot.

Was the immgrant here legally?


Legal day labor who works the Home Depot parking lot?
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:31:40 PM EDT
Needs more use of belt fed weapons.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:53:22 PM EDT
Great place to raise a family
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:57:11 PM EDT
The guy was a loser and had not one, not two but three full names attached to his finger prints... Fucking scum boarder hoping loser


The riots are week and hope they come inland
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 3:59:38 PM EDT
The riots of Rodney Hernandez?
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:08:27 PM EDT
The problem with the socialist 'help i'm being opressed' line is that it comes round to byte you back.

Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:08:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lootie23:
Minigun.
Originally Posted By sixnine:
I saw the footage of the rioters surrounding squad cars, all I could think was that they should install an OC sprinkler system in the light bars. Riots like this should not be tolerated.

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nah, napalm. minigun is too quick
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:09:01 PM EDT
Why is it that when cops shoot a white guy not one word is ever heard about it?
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:09:07 PM EDT
bullshit, bad SHOOT! ok? He was just getting drunk, and stabbing people that americans won't stab!
WTF is this bullshit? Amnesty comprehensive immigration reform now!

If that damn Local 517 stabbers union wasn't demanding $90 an hour to stab people.......damn unions!
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:14:09 PM EDT
We need more of these riots just before elections. Might make a few people wake up and use their brain when they vote for those who don't have any issues with wholesale immigration, legal or otherwise.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 5:27:56 PM EDT

Communists help fuel clash with police

plus pics of fat illegals

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/09/westlake-protest-police-macarthur-park-.html

local radio is reporting that the dead guys prints come back to two other names than the one in the article.. yep three alias's



wheres that popcorn animation?

Link Posted: 9/8/2010 6:31:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By smokycity:
It's being turned into a the police are anti-immigrant campaign by the people who are looking for a reason to riot. I wonder how many of the riot instigators are pro Atzlan and/or La Raza.


Good question.



Link Posted: 9/8/2010 6:41:11 PM EDT
These things happen.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 6:52:03 PM EDT
Miniguns, chambered in 5.56mm at knee-level will fix any riot you send it to...
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:53:02 AM EDT
Those dipshits were foaming at the mouth on TV. Screaming that the cops shouldn't have guns
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:54:00 AM EDT
I'm getting really tired of foreigners lately.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:57:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I'm getting really tired of foreigners lately.


I hear ya there.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:57:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By turbo_infidel:

Communists help fuel clash with police

plus pics of fat illegals

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/09/westlake-protest-police-macarthur-park-.html

local radio is reporting that the dead guys prints come back to two other names than the one in the article.. yep three alias's



wheres that popcorn animation?



Good comments section at that link. Seems that many people are getting tired of illegal alien criminals.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:58:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I'm getting really tired of foreigners lately.


+1 about lost all tolerance
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:03:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I'm getting really tired of foreigners lately.


Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:54:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By UKjohn:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I'm getting really tired of foreigners lately.




I don't consider you a foreigner.

Your food sucks ass though
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 5:42:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I'm getting really tired of foreigners lately.

Ayup.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 5:47:24 PM EDT
Wait till BHO makes them all US citizens. that gonna be real fun
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:31:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
Originally Posted By UKjohn:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
I'm getting really tired of foreigners lately.




I don't consider you a foreigner.

Your food sucks ass though


So do the dentists.

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:39:09 PM EDT
Let's not lose sight of the fact that the asshole's knife already had blood on it. Oh, but he was just a peaceful, nonviolent family man. Right.
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