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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:47:48 AM EDT

I know was suprised that mine had never been updated or improved. I can't remember what the lowest level is called. Secret?
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:49:29 AM EDT
I believe there is actually a level called "Confidential", and yes, I'm talking about clearances and not information designation.

But I've never seen anyone given that level of clearance.

To my knowledge, the lowest one that involves an SSBI is Secret.

_MaH
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:49:52 AM EDT
You won't have any level of security clearance until you get a job that requires it.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:52:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By California_Kid:
You won't have any level of security clearance until you get a job that requires it.


That being said. If applying for a job that asked that question. What should I put? I don't want to lie. should I put n/a?
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:52:51 AM EDT
The lowest level of National Security clearance is Secret (actually Confidential, but anyway).

The question is did you actually have a clearance or just a background investigation. Contrary to what many believe, not all get a clearance.

It is no longer valid after you get debriefed unless you get another position requiring a clearance within 2 years of your break in service. Even then you may/will need to have a periodic reinvestigation every 5 or 10 years depending on the level or clearance required.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:53:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By California_Kid:
You won't have any level of security clearance until you get a job that requires it.

And getting one totally sucks.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:54:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By paul_the_welder:
Originally Posted By California_Kid:
You won't have any level of security clearance until you get a job that requires it.


That being said. If applying for a job that asked that question. What should I put? I don't want to lie. should I put n/a?


Put your .mil service and then put "unknown" in clearance level.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:55:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Originally Posted By paul_the_welder:
Originally Posted By California_Kid:
You won't have any level of security clearance until you get a job that requires it.


That being said. If applying for a job that asked that question. What should I put? I don't want to lie. should I put n/a?


Put your .mil service and then put "unknown" in clearance level.


thanks
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:57:10 AM EDT
What are the levels of clearance?

Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:57:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mhoffman:


To my knowledge, the lowest one that involves an SSBI is Secret.

_MaH


BI on SF86 for Secret.
DOD will do a Secret based on a NACLC
SSBI on SF86 will do all - Secret, TS, TS/SCI - (Q for DOE)
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:58:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Put your .mil service and then put "unknown" in clearance level.

You could also put your .mil service, and say "x" clearance at "y" date.

As others have said, if it's been over a certain # of years, the whole investigation
would have to be redone, but if you're still within scope, that might give you an
edge over somebody who they'd have to totally start from scratch with.

Just a thought.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:59:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Originally Posted By mhoffman:


To my knowledge, the lowest one that involves an SSBI is Secret.

_MaH


BI on SF86 for Secret.
DOD will do a Secret based on a NACLC
SSBI on SF86 will do all - Secret, TS, TS/SCI - (Q for DOE)


Ah, the elusive Q clearance.

Guys with those, and guys with Yankee White, I just don't want to meet.

I have it in the back of my head that I'd just say "Hello!", they'd be having a bad day, and I'd be dead within the hour.

_MaH
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 8:02:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mhoffman:
Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Originally Posted By mhoffman:


To my knowledge, the lowest one that involves an SSBI is Secret.

_MaH


BI on SF86 for Secret.
DOD will do a Secret based on a NACLC
SSBI on SF86 will do all - Secret, TS, TS/SCI - (Q for DOE)


Ah, the elusive Q clearance.

Guys with those
, and guys with Yankee White, I just don't want to meet.

I have it in the back of my head that I'd just say "Hello!", they'd be having a bad day, and I'd be dead within the hour.

_MaH


Some of them are actually really cool and hella down to Earth.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 8:02:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Tanker06:
Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Put your .mil service and then put "unknown" in clearance level.

You could also put your .mil service, and say "x" clearance at "y" date.

As others have said, if it's been over a certain # of years, the whole investigation
would have to be redone, but if you're still within scope, that might give you an
edge over somebody who they'd have to totally start from scratch with.

Just a thought.


I had a clearance that lapsed, and then when I had to resubmit (for a different service) the clearance just came back approved, no interview, nothing. So I guess having a previous clearance can expedite a new one.

I've also seen people with crazy fucked up back grounds approved for secret with no sweat, and other applicants denied for minor stuff. It doesn't seem consistent.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 8:06:03 AM EDT
The only one employers really care about is TS, any joe off the street can usually get a S.

Kharn
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 8:06:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By mhoffman:
Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Originally Posted By mhoffman:


To my knowledge, the lowest one that involves an SSBI is Secret.

_MaH


BI on SF86 for Secret.
DOD will do a Secret based on a NACLC
SSBI on SF86 will do all - Secret, TS, TS/SCI - (Q for DOE)


Ah, the elusive Q clearance.

Guys with those, and guys with Yankee White, I just don't want to meet.

I have it in the back of my head that I'd just say "Hello!", they'd be having a bad day, and I'd be dead within the hour.

_MaH


Something like this?
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 8:14:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By Tanker06:
Originally Posted By grywlf52:
Put your .mil service and then put "unknown" in clearance level.

You could also put your .mil service, and say "x" clearance at "y" date.

As others have said, if it's been over a certain # of years, the whole investigation
would have to be redone, but if you're still within scope, that might give you an
edge over somebody who they'd have to totally start from scratch with.

Just a thought.


I had a clearance that lapsed, and then when I had to resubmit (for a different service) the clearance just came back approved, no interview, nothing. So I guess having a previous clearance can expedite a new one.

I've also seen people with crazy fucked up back grounds approved for secret with no sweat, and other applicants denied for minor stuff. It doesn't seem consistent.

Mine lapsed (got it in 96) and it took a year to get my new one when I finished college and got a job.
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