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Posted: 9/7/2010 8:50:00 AM EDT
Long overdue on my part...


Just a couple questions before i go to the recuiter.

Any specific job types or ideas from the hive??

Me
Some college
Hvac exp
Contrustion exp
Gunsmith Degree

Thanks any info would b great!!
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 8:51:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2010 8:52:42 AM EDT by millsusaf]
What ever you do get a guaranteed job, do not go open general.

If you liked the construction trades you have done in the past, Civil Engineering sounds right up your alley.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 8:52:37 AM EDT
Air traffic controller if you can handle it. My son was one for 8 years while in the Air Force. Got a great job afterwords.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:02:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gaweidert:
Air traffic controller if you can handle it. My son was one for 8 years while in the Air Force. Got a great job afterwords.

Not anymore
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:06:12 AM EDT
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:17:59 AM EDT
i have been thinking the same thing.

if you don't mind, how old are you?
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:27:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?



dude its the CHAIR FORCE .... if you want to be all hard and shit start out in a hard force....I work with the chair force all day its underwhelming to say the least

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:31:02 AM EDT
Spent 9 years in the Air Force. Communications. 3C0X1. I'm sure it's changed to some other AFSC at this point.

Like all things, it's what you make of it. But after 9 years, the dream turned into a nightmare. I got out while I still had some sanity left.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:00:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rdnkar:
i have been thinking the same thing.

if you don't mind, how old are you?


29
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:03:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By KB7:
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?



dude its the CHAIR FORCE .... if you want to be all hard and shit start out in a hard force....I work with the chair force all day its underwhelming to say the least



So thats a no?
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:07:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?


SERE instructor.
PJ
CC (maybe, not sure here)
Combat Weather?
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:09:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Tekka:

Originally Posted By gaweidert:
Air traffic controller if you can handle it. My son was one for 8 years while in the Air Force. Got a great job afterwords.

Not anymore

You don't know what you're talking about.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:34:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gaweidert:
Air traffic controller if you can handle it. My son was one for 8 years while in the Air Force. Got a great job afterwords.


Absolutely outstanding advice IMHO. I was in during the ATC strike and President Reagan called their bluff and fired them. MANY of our air force ATCs were shipped out TDY to civilian airports to run ATC operations. They got out of the air force in droves shortly after that to take civilian ATC civil service positions - often at twice the pay right off the bat. IF you have good spatial skills and a good short term memory for this sort of thing, it can provide a great career path. You will have to be able to visualize "patterns" very well in three dimensions. At that time, I worked ATC facility maintenance and often looked over their shoulders as they worked aircraft in pattern.

I remember the first time one of the giant C-5A models declared an emergency and diverted into our base at Lajes Field. None had ever been there before. The aircraft commander transmitted: "Lajes approach control, Tango 35 declaring emergency. Request immediate clearance" The ATC controller transmitted back: "Tango 35, roger, say aircraft type." Response was: "Lockheed Charlie Five Alpha." The controller then transmitted course correction heading and all of the other clearance info. Needless to say, we all were eager to get our first look at that big sucker. She landed about 20 minutes later trailing black smoke out of number two engine. Nobody hurt and no aircraft accident, thank God. I think they had to fly maintenance crew and a new engine in from Dover AFB to fix her as she sat for about a week or so on one of taxiways. She was too big for our hangars as I remember. Ah, the memories of that ATC facility.

Get the job contract on paper!

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:38:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By centurion:
Originally Posted By gaweidert:
Air traffic controller if you can handle it. My son was one for 8 years while in the Air Force. Got a great job afterwords.


Absolutely outstanding advice IMHO. I was in during the ATC strike and President Reagan called their bluff and fired them. MANY of our air force ATCs were shipped out TDY to civilian airports to run ATC operations. They got out of the air force in droves shortly after that to take civilian ATC civil service positions - often at twice the pay right off the bat. IF you have good spatial skills and a good short term memory for this sort of thing, it can provide a great career path. You will have to be able to visualize "patterns" very well in three dimensions. At that time, I worked ATC facility maintenance and often looked over their shoulders as they worked aircraft in pattern.

I remember the first time one of the giant C-5A models declared an emergency and diverted into our base at Lajes Field. None had ever been there before. The aircraft commander transmitted: "Lajes approach control, Tango 35 declaring emergency. Request immediate clearance" The ATC controller transmitted back: "Tango 35, roger, say aircraft type." Response was: "Lockheed Charlie Five Alpha." The controller then transmitted course correction heading and all of the other clearance info. Needless to say, we all were eager to get our first look at that big sucker. She landed about 20 minutes later trailing black smoke out of number two engine. Nobody hurt and no aircraft accident, thank God. I think they had to fly maintenance crew and a new engine in from Dover AFB to fix her as she sat for about a week or so on one of taxiways. She was too big for our hangars as I remember. Ah, the memories of that ATC facility.

Get the job contract on paper!


That must have been crazy if you were at a smaller airport. Those suckers need at least a 6000 ft strip.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:39:44 AM EDT
Looks for jobs that require TS-SCI clearances-big $$$ when you get out.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:55:07 AM EDT
See things on the ground, then shoot them dead.

Aerial Gunner

Might as well have fun while your in.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:08:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Originally Posted By rdnkar:
i have been thinking the same thing.

if you don't mind, how old are you?


29


30 here. sadly i will only be able to join the reserves
i have regretted not joining sooner
better late than never!!!
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:09:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?


If you get a 1Axxx AFSC you'll go directly go to one of the SERE schools. Plus you'll be aircrew with flight pay and better accommodations while deployed. 1A3X1 is airborn comm, should be able to get a decent job afterwards. But there are much better AFSCs for comm jobs for post-service. But they arent aircrew.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:17:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gaweidert:
Air traffic controller if you can handle it. My son was one for 8 years while in the Air Force. Got a great job afterwords.

Awesome! I signed ATC and ship in December.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:22:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Kalmar:

Originally Posted By gaweidert:
Air traffic controller if you can handle it. My son was one for 8 years while in the Air Force. Got a great job afterwords.

Awesome! I signed ATC and ship in December.


In Okinawa, my dorm had firefighters, ATC's and boomers (boom operators). Since we all worked odd hours, every day was Friday for us. We threw parties so often, a rumor started that we were dealing in drugs and prostitution. The SF's raided our dorm on more than one occasion.

I was 3E7X1 for 7 years and loved it.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:25:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By kno3sc3h40:
See things on the ground, then shoot them dead.

Aerial Gunner

Might as well have fun while your in.

Sounds like a good gig.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:29:53 AM EDT
You need to talk to a recruiter. When I was recruiting in 2006, you had to be in basic training by your 28th birthday. The Guard or Reserves may be your only choice.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:31:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TurboMonster:
You need to talk to a recruiter. When I was recruiting in 2006, you had to be in basic training by your 28th birthday. The Guard or Reserves may be your only choice.


I was a recruiter from 2001-2005. That's the way I remember the regs too.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:33:10 AM EDT
lol..@ wanting SERE before knowing what job he wants.

YMMV.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:50:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Colt45guy:
Originally Posted By TurboMonster:
You need to talk to a recruiter. When I was recruiting in 2006, you had to be in basic training by your 28th birthday. The Guard or Reserves may be your only choice.


I was a recruiter from 2001-2005. That's the way I remember the regs too.


Well that is not good news....
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:52:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Chris_C:
lol..@ wanting SERE before knowing what job he wants.

YMMV.



SERE was the job I was wanting. Just asking for advice, but then again its GD. Gotta take the good with the bad.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 11:54:59 AM EDT
The Navy can take you until you're 34. They've got some pretty cool jobs too.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:39:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Originally Posted By Chris_C:
lol..@ wanting SERE before knowing what job he wants.

YMMV.



SERE was the job I was wanting. Just asking for advice, but then again its GD. Gotta take the good with the bad.


What?! The USAF has full time SERE people as an MOS?

GTFO.

Really?

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:42:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chris_C:
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Originally Posted By Chris_C:
lol..@ wanting SERE before knowing what job he wants.

YMMV.



SERE was the job I was wanting. Just asking for advice, but then again its GD. Gotta take the good with the bad.


What?! The USAF has full time SERE people as an MOS?

GTFO.

Really?



According to my recruiter, yes.

OTS hopeful here.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:44:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?


Only if your job requires it, as in aircrew, Pararescue, and Combat Controller.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:51:56 PM EDT


So, you like guns?
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:55:49 PM EDT
Go Intel or Aerial Gunner, preferably Aerial Gunner.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:57:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?


Yeah but the AF version is a little different you have to stay in a 3 star hotel and here is the rough part... The cable is down!!!!!!!

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:59:15 PM EDT
The AF has SERE instructors. From what I understand, it is not an easy career path.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:59:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chris_C:
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Originally Posted By Chris_C:
lol..@ wanting SERE before knowing what job he wants.

YMMV.



SERE was the job I was wanting. Just asking for advice, but then again its GD. Gotta take the good with the bad.


What?! The USAF has full time SERE people as an MOS?

GTFO.

Really?

Somebody has to run the SERE school. It's actually a tough job, the training program is pretty rigorous. They also work with the Joint Personnel Recovery centers throughout the world to assist with recovery/debriefing of POWs.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:59:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chris_C:
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Originally Posted By Chris_C:
lol..@ wanting SERE before knowing what job he wants.

YMMV.



SERE was the job I was wanting. Just asking for advice, but then again its GD. Gotta take the good with the bad.


What?! The USAF has full time SERE people as an MOS?

GTFO.

Really?




Yeah they have a SERE Specialist/ SERE Instructor MOS, my little brother failed the selection for it
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:00:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By scrybe:


According to my recruiter, yes.

OTS hopeful here.



Ok never ever use the phrase "according to my recruiter", people are going to look at you and laugh.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:07:38 PM EDT
#1........NEVER go open-general! Unless you like driving busses

#2.......get a FUN job! Small Arms, survival instructor, ect.

#3......DO NOT let the recruter tell you, "Oh, there aren't any of the good jobs open right now, but if you'll do "X" you can cross train later..........LOAD OF HORSE SHIT!

#4......Second enlistment you can try for something more marketable in the civilian world.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:09:01 PM EDT
If you're interested in SERE, go Navy. Our SERE is better

Go to the Navy recruiter and say you want Aircrew. Good times
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:28:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KB7:
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?



dude its the CHAIR FORCE .... if you want to be all hard and shit start out in a hard force....I work with the chair force all day its underwhelming to say the least



hey... fuck you KB7. you must not be working with flightline workers..


there are two sides to the AF, the side everyone in the .mil (including the other side of the AF) makes fun of, and the real AF.... the flightline workers and others who dont get down days, who sweat and bleed while working and worry about doing our job, not tee time or lunch break.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:34:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 1911greg:
Originally Posted By scrybe:


According to my recruiter, yes.

OTS hopeful here.



Ok never ever use the phrase "according to my recruiter", people are going to look at you and laugh.


lol, "According to my recruiter" was not intended to mean "It is a fact that." That was my way of saying, "My recruiter told me it exists, but that could be a load of horse shit as he is a recruiter, so do your own research and don't take my response as gospel."
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:46:10 PM EDT
Maybe you should ask him where the Army recruiter's office is.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:53:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2010 1:56:45 PM EDT by opticalc]
Originally Posted By 2T2_Crash:
Originally Posted By KB7:
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?



dude its the CHAIR FORCE .... if you want to be all hard and shit start out in a hard force....I work with the chair force all day its underwhelming to say the least



hey... fuck you KB7. you must not be working with flightline workers..


there are two sides to the AF, the side everyone in the .mil (including the other side of the AF) makes fun of, and the real AF.... the flightline workers and others who dont get down days, who sweat and bleed while working and worry about doing our job, not tee time or lunch break.


where did you work? I worked flightline AWACS at Tinker 95-97 and besides deploying 4 times it was CAKE. tons of 3 day weekends. occasionally 4 day weekends. the USAF was good for me. Yeah I did freeze my ass off occasionally 60 ft up on the split deck replacing HF antenna couplers though.

but you're right KB7 has some envy going on. Haters gonna hate.

Besides, I contracted in IQ for a year, behind a computer terminal. There were PLENTY of Army/Navy/Marines there behind desks are their cake job.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 2:09:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By opticalc:
Originally Posted By 2T2_Crash:
Originally Posted By KB7:
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?



dude its the CHAIR FORCE .... if you want to be all hard and shit start out in a hard force....I work with the chair force all day its underwhelming to say the least



hey... fuck you KB7. you must not be working with flightline workers..


there are two sides to the AF, the side everyone in the .mil (including the other side of the AF) makes fun of, and the real AF.... the flightline workers and others who dont get down days, who sweat and bleed while working and worry about doing our job, not tee time or lunch break.


where did you work? I worked flightline AWACS at Tinker 95-97 and besides deploying 4 times it was CAKE. tons of 3 day weekends. occasionally 4 day weekends. the USAF was good for me. Yeah I did freeze my ass off occasionally 60 ft up on the split deck replacing HF antenna couplers though.

but you're right KB7 has some envy going on. Haters gonna hate.

Besides, I contracted in IQ for a year, behind a computer terminal. There were PLENTY of Army/Navy/Marines there behind desks are their cake job.


I was at Travis AFB for 4.5 years working the APS, deployed three times out of there, now I work at Kadena as part of a 5 man shop for the Cargo Deployment Function.

the flightline in Qatar in the middle of their summer sucks!
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 2:46:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 2T2_Crash:
Originally Posted By opticalc:
Originally Posted By 2T2_Crash:
Originally Posted By KB7:
Originally Posted By Jefferson_Local:
Can i get into S.E.R.E straight outta boot?



dude its the CHAIR FORCE .... if you want to be all hard and shit start out in a hard force....I work with the chair force all day its underwhelming to say the least



hey... fuck you KB7. you must not be working with flightline workers..


there are two sides to the AF, the side everyone in the .mil (including the other side of the AF) makes fun of, and the real AF.... the flightline workers and others who dont get down days, who sweat and bleed while working and worry about doing our job, not tee time or lunch break.


where did you work? I worked flightline AWACS at Tinker 95-97 and besides deploying 4 times it was CAKE. tons of 3 day weekends. occasionally 4 day weekends. the USAF was good for me. Yeah I did freeze my ass off occasionally 60 ft up on the split deck replacing HF antenna couplers though.

but you're right KB7 has some envy going on. Haters gonna hate.

Besides, I contracted in IQ for a year, behind a computer terminal. There were PLENTY of Army/Navy/Marines there behind desks are their cake job.


I was at Travis AFB for 4.5 years working the APS, deployed three times out of there, now I work at Kadena as part of a 5 man shop for the Cargo Deployment Function.

the flightline in Qatar in the middle of their summer sucks!


heh. my deployment to Riyadh was in December. sucks that it was during christmas/newyears but I missed out on the heat. hell, i remember laying down on the tarmac under the jet in the AM under the heat exchangers to keep warm when my launching tasks were done and I was waiting on everyone else to finish so the jet could launch. And I hear Eskan village has gone to hell.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:12:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2010 6:13:15 PM EDT by Chris_C]
The humping a radio side of me wants to laugh at air force air wingers fighting about who had it toughest, but the air winger side of me still wants to laugh.




ETA:

Semper Fi.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:55:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chris_C:
The humping a radio side of me wants to laugh at air force air wingers fighting about who had it toughest, but the air winger side of me still wants to laugh.




ETA:

Semper Fi.



you got it all wrong dude... im fighting about me having it EASIEST. go ahead and laugh. I snicker about it all the time
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 7:03:14 PM EDT
Best of both worlds...Airborne RED HORSE (combat civil engineering units). I was in RH my first 3.5 years. We didn't have the Airborne slots back then, but we did get slots for Ranger school. If things haven't changed you will still get to play with guns in pretty much any position in a RED HORSE unit.

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Link Posted: 9/7/2010 7:07:28 PM EDT
Where's N_T

We could really ned his background now.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 7:07:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By N83:
If you're interested in SERE, go Navy. Our SERE is better

Go to the Navy recruiter and say you want Aircrew. Good times

What's SERE? Search and Rescue?

Also, what's involved in doing Navy Aircrew?

Thanks.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 7:08:00 PM EDT
Get a flying billet if you can. Particularly if you LIKE flying.


What are your aptitudes and inclinations?

If you're the kind of guy who likes working with electronics, like me, go for avionics technician.

The AF has a LOT of electronics field jobs.


If you're into engines, go for jet engine mechanic. (Don't get sucked in!)


If you like to fly around in the air, chauffered by officers, passing gas and getting paid for it, and giving
orders to officers, then become an aerial refueling specialist.


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