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Posted: 9/7/2010 4:37:54 AM EDT
Eliminating the obvious choice who in your opinion was the worst president of the last 60 years?

I think Ill take Jimmy Carter on that one with Dick Nixon being a close second.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 4:51:48 AM EDT
Carter then LBJ
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 4:53:27 AM EDT
LBJ gave us his wondrous "Great Society", so I think his damage is more long-lasting than Carter's.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 4:55:08 AM EDT
Peanut Jimmy and his happy go lucky sidekick Walter were absolutely horrendous.
Willy Jeff takes second place
Nixon at third for the trifecta
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:00:39 AM EDT
LBJ for sure.

Carter in 2nd place
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:02:39 AM EDT
Clinton with the media knob gobbling amidst failing policy on damn near everything.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:06:59 AM EDT
Domestically, LBJ.

Internationally Carter.


Then again, I honestly think in 10-20 years, George W. Bush will be remembered as a pretty good President. People just aren't over being so angry as to see how unreasonable said anger is yet.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:09:14 AM EDT
Then again, I honestly think in 10-20 years, George W. Bush will be remembered as a pretty good President. People just aren't over being so angry as to see how unreasonable said anger is yet.

I think Iraq was the only bad decision he made. Now I think his vp choice is another matter. There is a reason his first name was Dick.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:09:26 AM EDT
1st Carter
2nd LBJ
3rd FDR
4th BHO (<–– That guy cannot even fuck things up correctly)
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:10:12 AM EDT
They all suck.


If I really had to pick one it'd be a a tie between Reagan and LBJ.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:12:09 AM EDT
carter
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:12:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
They all suck.


If I really had to pick one it'd be a a tie between Reagan and LBJ.


Just out of curiousity, why Reagan? I still don't understand how he reacted to Beiruit, but Im curious as to your reasons.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:12:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2010 5:24:35 AM EDT by Sub-MOA]
Carter:
Was such a push over on middle eastern policy that you can probably blame him for most of the fucked up mess even today. Then there's federal prison policy changes that turned out the crime wave of the mid to late 80's. Then there's the huge inflation surge that devalued the dollar by 40%. Then there's the SCotUS appointees that totally hosed about ten critical legal issues. Then there's import policy changes that killed half of our manufacturing... and the EPA PO "gifts" that keep on giving.

I kinda recall Ford as being a benign but incompetent twit. Even as a little kid, Carter's shit was easy to spot... He probably hates the U.S. worse than Obama.

ETA: Left out Carter's farm policy, banking policy, defense policy that gutted our military during the worst of the cold war, huge increases in federal welfare money... every damn thing Carter touched turned to shit.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:13:52 AM EDT
Carter was the worst, but LBJ did the most damage.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:14:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By saigamanTX:
Then again, I honestly think in 10-20 years, George W. Bush will be remembered as a pretty good President. People just aren't over being so angry as to see how unreasonable said anger is yet.

I think Iraq was the only bad decision he made. Now I think his vp choice is another matter. There is a reason his first name was Dick.

Blasphemer
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:14:47 AM EDT
Dick Cheney
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:18:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HullBreach:
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
They all suck.


If I really had to pick one it'd be a a tie between Reagan and LBJ.


Just out of curiousity, why Reagan? I still don't understand how he reacted to Beiruit, but Im curious as to your reasons.


He was a gun grabbing, big government worshipping asshole who turned deficit spending into the national sport.

Great actor, though.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:21:52 AM EDT
JFK. Spoiled, useless, gangster brat who thought the world was his oyster because he was cute and his daddy was a successful bootlegger. Say hi to Adolph Hitler in hell, Johnny, he's on the bar stool next your daddy. Consider it payback for LBJ.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:23:35 AM EDT
LBJ
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:38:41 AM EDT
The one that presided over the start of the worst recession since the Great Depression.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:42:32 AM EDT
The one that presided over the start of the worst recession since the Great Depression.

What Reagan? I kid I kid!
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:44:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:

Originally Posted By HullBreach:
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
They all suck.


If I really had to pick one it'd be a a tie between Reagan and LBJ.


Just out of curiousity, why Reagan? I still don't understand how he reacted to Beiruit, but Im curious as to your reasons.


He was a gun grabbing, big government worshipping asshole who turned deficit spending into the national sport.

Great actor, though.




I don't think I ever read so much FAIL in one sentence...
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:46:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DnPRK:
1st Carter
2nd LBJ
3rd FDR
4th BHO (<–– That guy cannot even fuck things up correctly)

FDR died 65 years ago.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:48:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2010 5:49:15 AM EDT by DarkNite]
Originally Posted By sydney7629:
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:

Originally Posted By HullBreach:
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
They all suck.


If I really had to pick one it'd be a a tie between Reagan and LBJ.


Just out of curiousity, why Reagan? I still don't understand how he reacted to Beiruit, but Im curious as to your reasons.


He was a gun grabbing, big government worshipping asshole who turned deficit spending into the national sport.

Great actor, though.




I don't think I ever read so much FAIL in one sentence...


Reagan signed the '86 MG Ban (FOPA, which for the record did do some good things, too). Check on the Gun Grabbing, I suppose.


If big government spending = big government then check there, too.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:50:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By DarkNite:
Originally Posted By sydney7629:
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:

Originally Posted By HullBreach:
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
They all suck.


If I really had to pick one it'd be a a tie between Reagan and LBJ.


Just out of curiousity, why Reagan? I still don't understand how he reacted to Beiruit, but Im curious as to your reasons.


He was a gun grabbing, big government worshipping asshole who turned deficit spending into the national sport.

Great actor, though.




I don't think I ever read so much FAIL in one sentence...


Reagan signed the '86 MG Ban (FOPA, which for the record did do some good things, too). Check on the Gun Grabbing, I suppose.

http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP.gif
If big government spending = big government then check there, too.
Y'all do know that Carter "bought back" his debt with federal reserve money... right?

Thus his inflation numbers.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:51:31 AM EDT
Bush jr. for one reason:

He had Republican power in all three branches of government and still did not push a Conservative agenda. Thats what happens when you elect a rino( I voted for him twice)
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:55:31 AM EDT
Carter or LBJ
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:04:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GseriesFal:
Dick Cheney


I...how do you even function?

He wasn't a President. EVER.

I was born in 1986 so worst I've seen in my lifetime barring Obama has to be Clinton.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:54:06 AM EDT
The older I get, the worse Reagan looks. Could be LBJ, though.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:56:11 AM EDT
LBJ, no doubt. Carter was more embarrassing, but LBJ did more damage.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 6:56:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Cypselus:
The older I get, the worse Reagan looks. .


Probably senility setting in early.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:57:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RikWriter:
Originally Posted By Cypselus:
The older I get, the worse Reagan looks. .


Probably senility setting in early.





Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:53:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FeebMaster:

Originally Posted By HullBreach:
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
They all suck.


If I really had to pick one it'd be a a tie between Reagan and LBJ.


Just out of curiousity, why Reagan? I still don't understand how he reacted to Beiruit, but Im curious as to your reasons.


He was a gun grabbing, big government worshipping asshole who turned deficit spending into the national sport.

Great actor, though.


out of


Link Posted: 9/7/2010 10:57:46 AM EDT
I think one has to define the criteria on what one judges to be "the worst".

Economy
Foreign Relations
Personal Behavior
Leadership under fire
Effective Agenda

What else?


Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:23:24 PM EDT
Lard Butt Johnson, now the second biggest piece of shit to sit in the White House. Some friends wanted to go to the Lard Butt ranch when they were visiting, it took every inch of my self control not to go piss on the cocksucker's grave.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:49:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PEPPER45ACP:
Carter then LBJ


The first post.

Working it's winning magic on Arfcom GD since 2010.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:54:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DarkNite:
Originally Posted By sydney7629:
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:

Originally Posted By HullBreach:
Originally Posted By FeebMaster:
They all suck.


If I really had to pick one it'd be a a tie between Reagan and LBJ.


Just out of curiousity, why Reagan? I still don't understand how he reacted to Beiruit, but Im curious as to your reasons.


He was a gun grabbing, big government worshipping asshole who turned deficit spending into the national sport.

Great actor, though.




I don't think I ever read so much FAIL in one sentence...


Reagan signed the '86 MG Ban (FOPA, which for the record did do some good things, too). Check on the Gun Grabbing, I suppose.

http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP.gif
If big government spending = big government then check there, too.


In this graph it is interesting to note who was running congress (power of the purse) during the various shifts.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:56:50 PM EDT
LBJ and GWB
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:58:04 PM EDT
LBJ and not for Vietnam.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:58:04 PM EDT
LBJ and not for Vietnam.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 12:58:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PEPPER45ACP:
Carter then LBJ

Toss up.

LBJ took socialist bullshit from FDR and put it in overdrive, leading to the huge entitlement society we're now about to collapse with.

Carter made us a laughing stock around the world with his foreign policies and was completely inept when it came to economics, a clueless, impotent dolt in a sweater while it crashed down around our ears.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:07:54 PM EDT
Carter
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:15:29 PM EDT
LB-fucking-J


may his soul rest in the lake of fire.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:17:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2010 1:19:16 PM EDT by Cypselus]
Originally Posted By DarkNite:
Reagan signed the '86 MG Ban (FOPA, which for the record did do some good things, too). Check on the Gun Grabbing, I suppose.

http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP.gif
If big government spending = big government then check there, too.

The graph speaks for itself. Voodoo economics indeed. He signed the '86 amnesty, too. He had a Republican senate for half his presidency, so you can't blame the Democrats.

The modern Republican party likes to spend borrowed money. It doesn't object to big government, just to the taxes necessary to pay for it sustainably.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:29:53 PM EDT
clinton
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:34:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cypselus:
Originally Posted By DarkNite:
Reagan signed the '86 MG Ban (FOPA, which for the record did do some good things, too). Check on the Gun Grabbing, I suppose.

http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP.gif
If big government spending = big government then check there, too.

The graph speaks for itself.



Big government spending does not equal big government.
What speaks for itself is your lack of historical perspective. I'd be willing to bet you weren't of voting age when Reagan was president.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:38:51 PM EDT
What was so bad about Nixon? Other than beating Goldwater.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:38:52 PM EDT
Baby Bush
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:39:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
Baby Bush


So unsurprised.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:41:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dashammer:
Baby Bush


You spelled Lyndon Baines Johnson wrong.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 1:45:11 PM EDT
They all look good next to BHO. Seriously, there's no contest.

I'd have to say FDR - particularly for his unsuccessful attempt to pack the SCOTUS. If he didn't have a war to win he would have run this country into the ground.
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