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Posted: 9/6/2010 7:07:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:09:57 AM EDT
Because some dipshit said "There aught to be a law" and some other dipshits passed such a law.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:10:05 AM EDT
while on this subject... anyone know of a weighted ball on a chain, as a keychain. a gun store i used to frequent had them for sale as 'tactical monkey balls'.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:11:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 7:11:56 AM EDT by LuckyDucky]
nvm
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:11:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Vigilante256:
while on this subject... anyone know of a weighted ball on a chain, as a keychain. a gun store i used to frequent had them for sale as 'tactical monkey balls'.

Google monkey fist.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:12:44 AM EDT
my google fu is weak today, thanks.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:13:06 AM EDT
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:13:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman:

Originally Posted By Vigilante256:
while on this subject... anyone know of a weighted ball on a chain, as a keychain. a gun store i used to frequent had them for sale as 'tactical monkey balls'.

Google monkey fist.



But wouldn't you rather disable Safesearch and google "tactical monkey balls"?

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:14:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 7:15:19 AM EDT by DragoMuseveni]
That's a good question because the people who tend to prefer such weapons are usually in the back pocket of the politicians that write such laws.

I just don't see Joe Citizen using one on Fat Tony and his shake down crew.


Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:14:43 AM EDT
Someone thought they were scary. You have the right to live free from things that are scary or things you don't like.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:16:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By O-Face:
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.



By that reasoning a hammer should be banned as well.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:17:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By O-Face:
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.


Because they're very effective and concealable I guess.

I remember when cops carried them all the time. Didn't uniform pants have a special pocket for them?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:17:36 AM EDT
I can carry any handgun I want but I can't carry some of my knives or even a piece of weighted leather.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:18:29 AM EDT
As the switch blade was the assualt weapon of the 1950s

The blackjack was the assualt weapon of the 1930s


Oh no, the horror
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:20:06 AM EDT
I own a "Pre Ban Blackjack".....................Grand Ma gave it to me. My grandfather carried it during the 30's in Chicago. It's a lead ball on a spring handwrapped in leather. Might have some of Al capone's crews DNA on it.....
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:20:36 AM EDT
I don't think are illegal everywhere.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:20:41 AM EDT
My grandfather was a longshoreman and always carried one on the docks. He had some nice ones, I wish I had gotten a hold of them.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:24:55 AM EDT
Just like the Russians to use illegal Blackjacks.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:28:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By O-Face:
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.


Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:34:27 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:37:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By WayneD:
Originally Posted By O-Face:
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.


Because they're very effective and concealable I guess.

I remember when cops carried them all the time. Didn't uniform pants have a special pocket for them?


Yep that pocket is still refered to as the Sap pocket on the back of the right leg.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:41:37 AM EDT
My dad still has a pair that he carried one of on the county PD for years and years. I think Kentucky CCW permit actually covers blackjacks if I remember right.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:43:13 AM EDT
You get one with almost every new gun purchase.



Loop it around your wrist so the lock sits in the palm of your hand.

Gives "Slap the shit out of someone" a whole new meaning and no one is going to question you carrying it.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:43:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rangermonroe:

Originally Posted By O-Face:
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.



By that reasoning a hammer should be banned as well.


yes, but defintitely lol'd!
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:46:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By WayneD:
Originally Posted By O-Face:
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.


Because they're very effective and concealable I guess.

I remember when cops carried them all the time. Didn't uniform pants have a special pocket for them?


Some uniform pants did have "sap pockets" built in; OK, but wasn't my favorite mode of carry. I usually carried a sap in a back pocket or stuck in my belt.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:46:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
That's a good question because the people who tend to prefer such weapons are usually in the back pocket of the politicians that write such laws.

I just don't see Joe Citizen using one on Fat Tony and his shake down crew.




Depends on who Fat Tony(or No Nose Louie) was trying to shake down...

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:46:43 AM EDT
Try "monkey nutz"
They have quite a few options and colors available.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:47:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rangermonroe:

Originally Posted By O-Face:
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.



By that reasoning a hammer should be banned as well.


"reasoning".



You're a funny guy Monroe, you should be in stand-up
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:49:04 AM EDT
Not a good option IMO. You better have a damn good articulable reason for cracking somebody upside the head with a weighted object as that can easily result in death or grave injury, especially if you don't know what you're doing.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:51:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By motoguzzi:
Try "monkey nutz"
They have quite a few options and colors available.



Link?

I now have that term in my Google Search History and nothing but a new set of "WTF does he search Google for" ads to show for it.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:51:57 AM EDT
Unlike the way they are portrayed in the movies, where the scrappy PI gets sapped and wakes up just a bit later with a bit of a headache, a blackjack has a very good chance of being lethal. It takes a lot of skill to hit someone just right and not cause a broken skull or subdural hematoma.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:52:02 AM EDT
Duh they are called "BLACK jacks"

Wouldn't want to offend anyone......
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:53:09 AM EDT
This slapjack is around 40 years old. Dad carried it as a LEO and I used it afterwards till banned in prisons. It works.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:54:59 AM EDT
I think average joes should be able to carry expendable batons too.


I want to go Musashi with two batons.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:56:09 AM EDT
What are these "Blackjacks" you speak of?

I carry a door knocker.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 7:56:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RDak:
Why are Blackjacks Illegal


Because YOU are of the Peasant Class..........and the Ruling Class has decided that you must NOT possess one.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:03:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:04:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 8:05:38 AM EDT by RDak]
Would a big ball bearing wrapped up in bicyle tire inner tubes be considered a homemade blackjack?

As a kid, I might have seen one of those?

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:06:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tuccioc1:
Heres some NUTZ


That's a friggin' blackjack isn't it??!!

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:06:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By tuccioc1:
Heres some NUTZ




Sorry folks, parks closed. Monkey out front should have told ya.



Monkey Knuts is under construction for upgrades and maintenance repair. We will re-open again beginning Sept 15, 2010 with new products, styles and clothing!! Sorry for any inconvenience!



Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:11:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TC6969:
You get one with almost every new gun purchase.

http://i56.tinypic.com/29nbd4x.jpg

Loop it around your wrist so the lock sits in the palm of your hand.

Gives "Slap the shit out of someone" a whole new meaning and no one is going to question you carrying it.


That's not a weapon, it's a government mandated safety device.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:11:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By glock21guy:
I don't think are illegal everywhere.


Might want to check what is considered a concealed weapon in your state's statutes.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:11:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
I think average joes should be able to carry expendable batons too.


I want to go Musashi with two batons.

Should be, but is a felony in California.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:15:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 8:15:54 AM EDT by RDak]
Here's Michigan's statute:

750.224 Weapons; manufacture, sale, or possession as felony; violation as felony; penalty; exceptions; "muffler" or "silencer" defined.
Sec. 224.

(1) A person shall not manufacture, sell, offer for sale, or possess any of the following:

(a) A machine gun or firearm that shoots or is designed to shoot automatically more than 1 shot without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

(b) A muffler or silencer.

(c) A bomb or bombshell.

(d) A blackjack, slungshot, billy, metallic knuckles, sand club, sand bag, or bludgeon.

(e) A device, weapon, cartridge, container, or contrivance designed to render a person temporarily or permanently disabled by the ejection, release, or emission of a gas or other substance.

(2) A person who violates subsection (1) is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or a fine of not more than $2,500.00, or both.

(3) Subsection (1) does not apply to any of the following:

(a) A self-defense spray or foam device as defined in section 224d.

(b) A person manufacturing firearms, explosives, or munitions of war by virtue of a contract with a department of the government of the United States.

(c) A person licensed by the secretary of the treasury of the United States or the secretary's delegate to manufacture, sell, or possess a machine gun, or a device, weapon, cartridge, container, or contrivance described in subsection (1).

(4) As used in this chapter, "muffler" or "silencer" means 1 or more of the following:

(a) A device for muffling, silencing, or deadening the report of a firearm.

(b) A combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a muffler or silencer.

(c) A part, designed or redesigned, and intended only for use in assembling or fabricating a muffler or silencer.



History: 1931, Act 328, Eff. Sept. 18, 1931 ;–– CL 1948, 750.224 ;–– Am. 1959, Act 175, Eff. Mar. 19, 1960 ;–– Am. 1978, Act 564, Imd. Eff. Dec. 29, 1978 ;–– Am. 1980, Act 346, Eff. Mar. 31, 1981 ;–– Am. 1990, Act 321, Eff. Mar. 28, 1991 ;–– Am. 1991, Act 33, Imd. Eff. June 10, 1991 ;–– Am. 2006, Act 401, Eff. Dec. 28, 2006
Constitutionality: The Michigan supreme court held that the statute was not unconstitutionally vague as applied to the defendant in People v Lynch, 410 Mich 343; 301 NW2d 796 (1981).
Former Law: See section 3 of Act 372 of 1927, being CL 1929, § 16751; and Act 206 of 1929.


Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:17:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 8:17:54 AM EDT by glazer1972]
Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Originally Posted By WayneD:
Originally Posted By O-Face:
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.


Because they're very effective and concealable I guess.

I remember when cops carried them all the time. Didn't uniform pants have a special pocket for them?


I just carried mine in my right rear pocket.

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=1577

And in Texas, they are not illegal to own, only illegal to carry.



OP, why didn't you just pistol whip em with that hogleg like old Gus did in Lonesome Dove?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:18:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 8:20:23 AM EDT by RDak]
Originally Posted By glazer1972:
Originally Posted By Old_Painless:
Originally Posted By WayneD:
Originally Posted By O-Face:
Probably because one good blow to the head with one and it would be coloring books for X-Mas from now on.


Because they're very effective and concealable I guess.

I remember when cops carried them all the time. Didn't uniform pants have a special pocket for them?


I just carried mine in my right rear pocket.

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=1577

And in Texas, they are not illegal to own, only illegal to carry.



OP, why didn't you just pistol whip em with that hogleg?


The sound of "thwap" is sometimes more appealing than the sound of "whack".

Uh.......so I've been told........maybe OP has been told the same thing?
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:22:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:22:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TC6969:
You get one with almost every new gun purchase.

http://i56.tinypic.com/29nbd4x.jpg

Loop it around your wrist so the lock sits in the palm of your hand.

Gives "Slap the shit out of someone" a whole new meaning and no one is going to question you carrying it.


I knew one of the members would find a way..............

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:23:11 AM EDT
I carry a sock with a roll of quarters in it. I be homie da clownin!
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:28:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman:

Originally Posted By Vigilante256:
while on this subject... anyone know of a weighted ball on a chain, as a keychain. a gun store i used to frequent had them for sale as 'tactical monkey balls'.

Google monkey fist.


go to the EE

These are great!
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 8:31:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By glock21guy:
I don't think are illegal everywhere.


Might want to check what is considered a concealed weapon in your state's statutes.



Possessing and carrying are different things.
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