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Posted: 9/6/2010 5:25:02 AM EDT
...so I am looking for yet another flattop 16 inch carbine in our beloved 5.56, but what's the BEST VALUE out there these days? (I'm retired=fixed income)

Criteria: plain-jane vanilla (I can dress it up later)

Use: paper-punching and home defense at 300 yards: 4 and 2 legged varmints

1. NEW or USED?

2. BRAND? Bushie, Oly, Stag, Rock River, DPMS, Cobb, Rem, S&W, Colt, LMT, Wilson Combat. ...the list goes on OR

3. Build one up myself since I have the time and dexterity?

...inquiring mind wants to know..

I GOTS TO KNOW!

Thanks!
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:26:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:26:24 AM EDT
build one??

deals can be found.....you just have to look for them.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:45:27 AM EDT
Del-ton kit ftw
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:47:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By powdershots:
Del-ton kit ftw


Del-Ton is good for plinking/training––I'm upfitting a DTI upper with a BCM BCG and bbl eventually. If you want to buy and cry once-go with BCM
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:48:01 AM EDT
BCM provides the best value for the money, unless what you really meant to ask was "what's the cheapest," in which case I would say get a BCM anyway.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:48:46 AM EDT
I built a Delton for about $600.

I am not an "operator", but it serves my purposes just fine with a few K downrange.

This was during the "panic" when you could not get one anywhere for under $1500.

With $60 lowers falling off of trees thesedays......
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:50:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PooFire:
BCM provides the best value for the money, unless what you really meant to ask was "what's the cheapest," in which case I would say get a BCM anyway.


Mine is BCM on the top and LMT on the bottom though.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:52:15 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:52:23 AM EDT
That $400 DPMS kit is quite the deal for a plinker. As long as you don't mind assembling and upper.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:56:24 AM EDT


CDNN has S&W M&P-15's for $599.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 5:58:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/6/2010 6:00:55 AM EDT by leswill]
Originally Posted By glazer1972:
Originally Posted By PooFire:
BCM provides the best value for the money, unless what you really meant to ask was "what's the cheapest," in which case I would say get a BCM anyway.


Mine is BCM on the top and LMT on the bottom though.


i find that an amazing statement, for someone with over 12,000 posts. what did they do to piss you off/???? ETA––- SORRY,, I MIS-READ THAT–– I INITIALLY THOUGHT YOU MEANT LMT WAS ''ON THE BOTTOM''
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 6:03:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By squirreljr:


CDNN has S&W M&P-15's for $599.


Pretty good deal and then there is Spikes, Del-Ton, BCM.

IMO I'd get a Spikes - pretty much the best bang for the buck IMO.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 6:18:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:29:51 PM EDT
Thanks, Men!!!!
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 4:41:05 PM EDT
I like the Armalite deal of $450 complete uppers. Grab a stock and lower from the EE and you're all set.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 8:38:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By leswill:
Originally Posted By glazer1972:
Originally Posted By PooFire:
BCM provides the best value for the money, unless what you really meant to ask was "what's the cheapest," in which case I would say get a BCM anyway.


Mine is BCM on the top and LMT on the bottom though.


i find that an amazing statement, for someone with over 12,000 posts. what did they do to piss you off/???? ETA––- SORRY,, I MIS-READ THAT–– I INITIALLY THOUGHT YOU MEANT LMT WAS ''ON THE BOTTOM''


Yeah, I can see how my statement might have been confusing.

My Lower is an LMT w/ 2 stg. trigger and LMT Sopmod Stock. I added a Magpul triggerguard.

My upper is an earlier unmarked BCM 20" govt. profile 1:7 twist with DD Omega 12.0 rail and Troy Folding Rear Site.

I also have a Gear Sector GS2P sling and an assortment of 20 and 30 rd pmags.

Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:27:21 AM EDT
BCM is currently having a sale on their uppers. $385 will get you a BCM 16" upper sans handguards, charging handle and bolt carrier group.

Add another $130 for a BCM full auto BCG and charging handle and that gets you to $515 for the upper, which lacks only handguards. I would spend the extra dough on a Magpul MOE handguard set from AIM Surplus ($35 shipped). That brings you to $550 for a top-notch complete upper.

Throw your preferred brand of lower receiver, lower parts kit and stock on it and you're good to go. If I was doing it on a budget I would go for a Stag lower and CMMG lower parts kit. I prefer RRA lower parts kits for my builds but they are a bit more expensive.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:34:42 AM EDT
SW MP-15 from CDNN
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:39:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Kuraki:
SW MP-15 from CDNN

Long gone from what I've seen.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:42:19 AM EDT
You can get a Noveske mid length upper (light recce basic) for $850 and they'll throw in a stripped lower for free right now. Then just build the lower.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:44:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 9:52:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/7/2010 9:53:52 AM EDT by mike_556]
Originally Posted By stockshift:
BCM is currently having a sale on their uppers. $385 will get you a BCM 16" upper sans handguards, charging handle and bolt carrier group.

Add another $130 for a BCM full auto BCG and charging handle and that gets you to $515 for the upper, which lacks only handguards. I would spend the extra dough on a Magpul MOE handguard set from AIM Surplus ($35 shipped). That brings you to $550 for a top-notch complete upper.

Throw your preferred brand of lower receiver, lower parts kit and stock on it and you're good to go. If I was doing it on a budget I would go for a Stag lower and CMMG lower parts kit. I prefer RRA lower parts kits for my builds but they are a bit more expensive.

Only thing I'd add is the BCM GunFighter CH
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