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Posted: 9/3/2010 8:13:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/5/2010 6:11:13 PM EDT by Kuraki]
I started with the backstrap. They're replaceable you see. I did three of them in different styles before I thought, "Oh man, this is nice. I like this." And then I thought...the front strap is slippery. Hell with it I said. I done Dusty'ed my M&P, and I like it. The thing sticks in my hand now. No blood, sweat or guts will make this slippery.

So I thought I would share Oh, and anyone thinking about getting the DCAEK from Apex instead of just the sear for their M&P? Doooo it.





Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:14:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 8:15:13 PM EDT by GNRNR]
I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide.

Other wise it looks well done.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:15:09 PM EDT
Nice, that slide looks a bit heavy. Lets see what you can do with a Dremel.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:15:16 PM EDT
Looks good, how long did it take?
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:15:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 8:16:30 PM EDT by omega62]
I'm not seeing any retardation.

Looks good to me.

(Yeah, like the other guy said, except maybe for the part under the slide).
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:16:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GNRNR:
I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide.

Other wise it looks well done.

That's the only part I'm not sure about. I haven't shot it like this yet, but I put my thumb there, and I do think it slides around a little. I need some range time on Monday to see if it'll stay or get sanded down.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:17:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GNRNR:
I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide.

Other wise it looks well done.


My first thought.

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:17:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By nealthedestroyer:
Looks good, how long did it take?

About an hour once I figured out what I wanted to do for keepsies. About 2 hours prior trying different tip profiles and directions of pushing.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:18:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 8:18:57 PM EDT by SenorTreinteOcho]
The grip looks fine and I'm sure it feels great.

What was the point of stippling the top (under the slide) near the light?
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:18:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
Nice, that slide looks a bit heavy. Lets see what you can do with a Dremel.

This would be awesome
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:18:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
Nice, that slide looks a bit heavy. Lets see what you can do with a Dremel.


Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:19:06 PM EDT
You guys don't like the way it looks because of appearance under the slide, or you don't think you'd like any texture there? Just curious. It appears to droop, because of the profile of the dust cover, unless you look at it directly from the side.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:19:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Renegade13B:

Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
Nice, that slide looks a bit heavy. Lets see what you can do with a Dremel.

This would be awesome

Maybe some flames around the muzzle?
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:21:32 PM EDT
I see no reason to do anything but congratulate you for customizing your weapon to your (intelligent) preferences. Good job.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:26:27 PM EDT
Best home texture job I've seen.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:27:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thelaw09:
Originally Posted By GNRNR:
I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide.

Other wise it looks well done.


My first thought.



mine too
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:27:51 PM EDT

Will you do my XD-45?
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:28:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By theFatAirsoftKid47:
Originally Posted By thelaw09:
Originally Posted By GNRNR:
I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide.

Other wise it looks well done.


My first thought.



mine too


*raises hand as well*

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:29:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Willmar:
Originally Posted By theFatAirsoftKid47:
Originally Posted By thelaw09:
Originally Posted By GNRNR:
I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide.

Other wise it looks well done.


My first thought.



mine too


*raises hand as well*


Why, I'm asking. Appearance or don't want texture in that location?
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:32:19 PM EDT
You aren't finished with it until you have Dougwg put one of his sears in it and then do a complete serration treatment on the slide and get it recoated with Melonite..


Here's a vid of the slide with trainer Steve Fisher doing the talking in Doug's shop: http://www.tube-video.com/video/GGp5MGi_w7w/Top-serrations-wmv.html
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:35:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:39:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thelaw09:
Originally Posted By GNRNR:
I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide.

Other wise it looks well done.


My first thought.



Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:39:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By omega62:
I'm not seeing any retardation.

Looks good to me.

(Yeah, like the other guy said, except maybe for the part under the slide).


Wouldn't do it myself, but at least it's well executed. Doesn't look bad at all.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:41:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GNRNR:
I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide.

Other wise it looks well done.


1st post wins. The rest looks great. WTF over

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:44:23 PM EDT
Looks fine to me.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:45:45 PM EDT
I am trying to convince myself to do it to mine. I think I will start on the small backstrap and see what it comes out like
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:48:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:
Originally Posted By SenorTreinteOcho:
The grip looks fine and I'm sure it feels great.

What was the point of stippling the top (under the slide) near the light?


That's where the thumb of your support hand goes in a thumbs forward grip. Helps to maintain a consistent grip. A lot of guys do it with either stippling or grip tape.

What he said.





Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:48:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 8:49:29 PM EDT by JBlitzen]
Looks good. I'm amazed that so many pistol makers ignore grippy texturing on... the grips. Front and back straps are always too slippery.

Smooth is fine when you're playing with it in a gunshop or putting 20 rounds through it at a range, but hands get sweaty when you're under pressure.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:50:01 PM EDT
NOT bad on the frame.

The part over the trigger guard is a bit much, but the grip looks great
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:50:53 PM EDT
Thats my style, Good Job
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:51:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Originally Posted By GNRNR:
I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide.

Other wise it looks well done.

That's the only part I'm not sure about. I haven't shot it like this yet, but I put my thumb there, and I do think it slides around a little. I need some range time on Monday to see if it'll stay or get sanded down.


leave it. Just did my glock and it keeps your thumb in place.

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Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:52:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JBlitzen:
Looks good. I'm amazed that so many pistol makers ignore grippy texturing on... the grips. Front and back straps are always too slippery.

Smooth is fine when you're playing with it in a gunshop or putting 20 rounds through it at a range, but hands get sweaty when you're under pressure.

I pondered this as I was inhaling nylon 6 fumes. I came to the conclusion that they figure they have to play to the appearance crowd and the "don't want that to cut my hands up at the range" crowd, which is probably the majority of their purchasers, figuring that anyone who wants a more aggressive grip will be willing to use grip tape or whatever method to get it.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:53:09 PM EDT
I really like that.

Good job man!
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:54:22 PM EDT
Thanks for all compliments and criticism. Both are valuable.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:56:01 PM EDT
Everything looked great with exception of that spot under the slide. Good job overall.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:56:10 PM EDT
What tip and method did you use?

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Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:56:25 PM EDT
That is a great stippling job!

There's a good, long thread on the subject over on lightfighter.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:57:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:
Originally Posted By SenorTreinteOcho:
The grip looks fine and I'm sure it feels great.

What was the point of stippling the top (under the slide) near the light?


That's where the thumb of your support hand goes in a thumbs forward grip. Helps to maintain a consistent grip. A lot of guys do it with either stippling or grip tape.


Now that you explain it like that, it makes sense. I don't hold my gun that way so I was unable to see the utility. My criticism was based on appearance. I retract said criticism.

Looks good!
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 8:58:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/4/2010 12:11:05 AM EDT by DD977GM2]
That looks great. Been thinking of doing it to my XD40
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:01:04 PM EDT
Nice work.

Now, lets see what kind of a fluting job you can do on your new FAL's
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:05:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lowonair:
What tip and method did you use?

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I ground the pointed solder tip to a flat at, I don't know, a 7 or 10 degree angle, then buffed the hell out of it on a rouge wheel so that it wouldn't collect too much of the soft polymer. At about a 45 degree angle, with the rake of the tip in a positive position, I pushed towards the magwell to drive up a ridge and leave a pocket. Each press was <1 second with very little pressure until it had already begun to sink into the material, otherwise the tip would walk on top. MSpaint is worth a thousand words right?


Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:08:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pita_146:
Nice work.

Now, lets see what kind of a fluting job you can do on your new FAL's

Your old lady was going to bring me your SBR one day so I could engrave "It's Da Five Oh, Yo!" on the magwell for your birthday.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:12:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Originally Posted By lowonair:
What tip and method did you use?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

I ground the pointed solder tip to a flat at, I don't know, a 7 or 10 degree angle, then buffed the hell out of it on a rouge wheel so that it wouldn't collect too much of the soft polymer. At about a 45 degree angle, with the rake of the tip in a positive position, I pushed towards the magwell to drive up a ridge and leave a pocket. Each press was <1 second with very little pressure until it had already begun to sink into the material, otherwise the tip would walk on top. MSpaint is worth a thousand words right?

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21605


I like that look. I'm guessing you started at the magwell and worked your way to the top?
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:16:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Originally Posted By Pita_146:
Nice work.

Now, lets see what kind of a fluting job you can do on your new FAL's

Your old lady was going to bring me your SBR one day so I could engrave "It's Da Five Oh, Yo!" on the magwell for your birthday.

Then you would both be in violation of NFA laws.

Luckily, she doesn't know where you live, and knows better than to fuck with my SBR.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:21:28 PM EDT
I tried this on my 1911, and nothing happened. Then it dawned on me that it's a mans gun, shooting a manly round, and considering I'm a man i can control recoil without soldering iron tricks.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:23:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Milewsky80:
Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Originally Posted By lowonair:
What tip and method did you use?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

I ground the pointed solder tip to a flat at, I don't know, a 7 or 10 degree angle, then buffed the hell out of it on a rouge wheel so that it wouldn't collect too much of the soft polymer. At about a 45 degree angle, with the rake of the tip in a positive position, I pushed towards the magwell to drive up a ridge and leave a pocket. Each press was <1 second with very little pressure until it had already begun to sink into the material, otherwise the tip would walk on top. MSpaint is worth a thousand words right?

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21605


I like that look. I'm guessing you started at the magwell and worked your way to the top?

Actually, I started by going around the outside margins, so I would have a buffer of where I wanted to stop. Learned that from my coloring books, hehe Once I had that, I made progressive lines towards the middle, sometimes top to bottom, sometimes only in the middle since there was more ground to make up, trying to alternate the pattern like dimples. Of course that's not perfect but I think I got the randomness I was looking for rather than pattern here pattern there.

Here are my first two tries. I kinda liked the one on the left.


Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:25:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:
Originally Posted By SenorTreinteOcho:
The grip looks fine and I'm sure it feels great.

What was the point of stippling the top (under the slide) near the light?


That's where the thumb of your support hand goes in a thumbs forward grip. Helps to maintain a consistent grip. A lot of guys do it with either stippling or grip tape.

What he said.

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21603


http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21604


Looks like it will work perfect.

Good job.

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:33:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OKSoda:
I tried this on my 1911, and nothing happened. Then it dawned on me that it's a mans gun, shooting a manly round, and considering I'm a man i can control recoil without soldering iron tricks.

The wrong tree, you're barking up it.


Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:40:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Originally Posted By Keekleberrys:
Originally Posted By SenorTreinteOcho:
The grip looks fine and I'm sure it feels great.

What was the point of stippling the top (under the slide) near the light?


That's where the thumb of your support hand goes in a thumbs forward grip. Helps to maintain a consistent grip. A lot of guys do it with either stippling or grip tape.

What he said.

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21603


http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21604

I keep my thumbs forward. I do not twist the off hand thumb into the frame. The stippling job looks pretty good though.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:41:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pita_146:

Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Originally Posted By Pita_146:
Nice work.

Now, lets see what kind of a fluting job you can do on your new FAL's

Your old lady was going to bring me your SBR one day so I could engrave "It's Da Five Oh, Yo!" on the magwell for your birthday.

Then you would both be in violation of NFA laws.

Luckily, she doesn't know where you live, and knows better than to fuck with my SBR.

I resent (resemble?) being called old..
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 9:42:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Originally Posted By Milewsky80:
Originally Posted By Kuraki:

Originally Posted By lowonair:
What tip and method did you use?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

I ground the pointed solder tip to a flat at, I don't know, a 7 or 10 degree angle, then buffed the hell out of it on a rouge wheel so that it wouldn't collect too much of the soft polymer. At about a 45 degree angle, with the rake of the tip in a positive position, I pushed towards the magwell to drive up a ridge and leave a pocket. Each press was <1 second with very little pressure until it had already begun to sink into the material, otherwise the tip would walk on top. MSpaint is worth a thousand words right?

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21605


I like that look. I'm guessing you started at the magwell and worked your way to the top?

Actually, I started by going around the outside margins, so I would have a buffer of where I wanted to stop. Learned that from my coloring books, hehe Once I had that, I made progressive lines towards the middle, sometimes top to bottom, sometimes only in the middle since there was more ground to make up, trying to alternate the pattern like dimples. Of course that's not perfect but I think I got the randomness I was looking for rather than pattern here pattern there.

Here are my first two tries. I kinda liked the one on the left.

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21606

I like the left one too-naturally..
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