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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:22:19 PM EDT

Final takes: You can quote me on this


I've made a lot of predictions over the last month, about every team in every conference in the country, many of which I frankly can't even remember. Many, even after diligent research and charts and maybe some rudimentary math, still amount to educated guesses cobbled together with a random strain of fatigued logic. But if for whatever reason you feel it necessary to hold my feet to fire about anything I've said about the 2010 season when the calendar hits December, there are only a handful I'm willing to risk looking like an idiot for on the eve of the first Saturday kickoff, before the actual muscle and sweat grinds the offseason logic into irrelevant dust:

Tide will fall. In general, the odds advise against projecting pretty much any specific team to run the table to a perfect season, no matter how dominant it happens to look on paper. That goes double in a season that appears ripe for chaos, where there is no dominant team on paper. And it goes triple for an outfit that's already flouted the odds over the course of a frequently harrowing, 24-game regular-season win streak. For lack of an obvious successor, Alabama opens the season where it ended the last one, as the consensus No. 1 in every major poll. But down nine starters, six draft picks and three All-Americans from the nation's best defense – not just the core but almost the entire group responsible for a 12-0 regular season in 2008 and the perfect, 14-0 run to the BCS championship last year – and now facing some uncertainty surrounding two of its best players, if ever an undisputed frontrunner has been vulnerable to an unexpected lump or two, 'Bama is it.

*Snip*
Ohio State will play for the BCS championship. The Buckeyes are the most experienced of the major title contenders by a wide margin, and the only one that comes into the season without a glaring negative lying in wait to kneecap their championship hopes at some random point in the season. As glaring positives go, an MVP effort in January's Rose Bowl could go down as the turning point for quarterback Terrelle Pryor, now 23 starts into a career that should begin to catch up to the hype in year three.

That triumph was the Buckeyes' third straight over a top-10 opponent, following regular-season wins over Penn State and Iowa to lock up the Big Ten title, after six straight, high-profile flops against top-10 teams beginning with the 2006 BCS Championship Game. This is a very different cast from the one that endured serial traumas against the Gators, Tigers and Trojans, and given how quickly it came together when the sky seemed to be falling last November, it seems to be made of the stuff to finally finish the job. Deal with it, America.




I didn't say it, but I like it.


Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:24:13 PM EDT

It's not like he went real far out on a limb with those predictions.....
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:25:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 4:31:00 PM EDT by ArmyInfantryVet]
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:28:32 PM EDT
Pryor is 23 year old?

WTF? Hell I thought he was a Jr.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:32:33 PM EDT
To early to call.

That article is like those polling reports that come out before the end of an election.

Injuries and other factors will play into the games.

But you guys ever think how huge a paycut he is going to have to take when he goes into the NFL from OSU?

Every freshman from the hood can afford a brand new vette.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:33:06 PM EDT
UM is going to win it all...
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:36:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.


Michigan players can't even spell BCS
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:37:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.


Michigan players can't even spell BCS

OSU can't even win a NC game, so we're even.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:38:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.


Michigan players can't even spell BCS

OSU can't even win a NC game, so we're even.


I guess you forgot about the 2002 season, but I would too if I was a scUM fan
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:43:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 4:52:13 PM EDT by georgiarebel6165]
Well they can lose 5 games and still have a chance to play it. There's so much bias against the SEC who ever loses the Ala-Fla game will drop of of the top 20, yet either would still destroy OU, and yet OU is Rated #2 at the start of the season Really what have they done in the last 4 bowl games?

Beat Oregon -Oooooh the Powerhouse ducks
Loss to Texas - Ass whooping
Loss to LSU - Ass whooping
Loss to Gators - Ass whooping

All the gay love for the OU makes me sick. Hope Miami makes a mockery of them next week.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:44:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.


Michigan players can't even spell BCS

OSU can't even win a NC game, so we're even.


I guess you forgot about the 2002 season, but I would too if I was a scUM fan

Thanks to a horrible call. Tainted win.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:44:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.


Michigan players can't even spell BCS


Its interesting how the bucknuts forget the Cooper years or the fact that UM actually has a better record head to head.

You asked a bucknut who has historically dominate the series and they will we are 8-2 the last ten years!

How about the previous 50 years?

Hmm. How convient.

Also over 400 self reported secondary recruiting violations? Are fucking kidding me? USC looks like monks compared the the crap that goes on in the shithole called Columbus.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:44:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By georgiarebel6165:
Well they can lose 5 games and still have a chance to play it. There's so much bias against the SEC who ever loses the Ala-Fla game will drop of of the top 20, yet would still destoy OU, and yet OU is Rated #2 at the start of the season Really what have they done in the last 4 bowl games?

Beat Oregon -Oooooh the Powerhouse ducks
Loss to Texas - Ass whooping
Loss to LSU - Ass whooping
Loos to Gators - Ass whooping

All the gay love for the OU it make me sick. Hope Miami makes a mockery of them next week.


what does Oklahoma have to do with this thread?
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:46:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.


Michigan players can't even spell BCS

OSU can't even win a NC game, so we're even.
yes that time of the year where army's stupidity and hate is amplified even more

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:46:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By georgiarebel6165:
Well they can lose 5 games and still have a chance to play it. There's so much bias against the SEC who ever loses the Ala-Fla game will drop of of the top 20, yet would still destoy OU, and yet OU is Rated #2 at the start of the season Really what have they done in the last 4 bowl games?

Beat Oregon -Oooooh the Powerhouse ducks
Loss to Texas - Ass whooping
Loss to LSU - Ass whooping
Loos to Gators - Ass whooping

All the gay love for the OU it make me sick. Hope Miami makes a mockery of them next week.


what does Oklahoma have to do with this thread?


Ha! Maybe I should've said "THE" Ohio State University - Sorry for the disrespect
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:47:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.


Michigan players can't even spell BCS


Its interesting how the bucknuts forget the Cooper years or the fact that UM actually has a better record head to head.

You asked a bucknut who has historically dominate the series and they will we are 8-2 the last ten years!

How about the previous 50 years?

Hmm. How convient.

Also over 400 self reported secondary recruiting violations? Are fucking kidding me? USC looks like monks compared the the crap that goes on in the shithole called Columbus.


Bucks lead in the series in the past 50 years
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:49:06 PM EDT
O-H




Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:50:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 4:51:12 PM EDT by kcolg30]

Originally Posted By Oakley:
O-H





U-M


Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:52:15 PM EDT
History
First Meeting Michigan, 36–0 (1897)
Last Meeting Ohio State, 21–10 (2009)
Next Meeting November 27, 2010
Number of Meetings 106
All-Time Series Michigan leads, 57–43–6
Largest victory Michigan, 86–0 (1902)
Current Streak Ohio State, 6
Longest Mich Win Streak 9 (1901–1909)
Longest OSU Win Streak 6 (2004–2009)
Trophy: None
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:52:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By armoredsaint:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.


Michigan players can't even spell BCS

OSU can't even win a NC game, so we're even.
yes that time of the year where army's stupidity and hate is amplified even more


I love it how Pryor looks like crap all year, and has one good game against a highly over-rated Oregon and all of a sudden he is a Heisman front runner. Then he plays yesterday against Marshal and looks like the same ol' over rated bum he's been for the past couple years.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:52:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kcolg30:

Originally Posted By Oakley:
O-H





U-M






Michigan won't be making it to Columbus this year seeing they have a hard time getting past toledo.....
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 4:58:46 PM EDT
Did you guys see Pryor's haircut?

He looks like Gumby now.

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:01:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Oakley:
Originally Posted By kcolg30:

Originally Posted By Oakley:
O-H





U-M






Michigan won't be making it to Columbus this year seeing they have a hard time getting past toledo.....


Can't wait till those cornfed country boys from Nebraska show up to teach the "Little Ten" how to play smashmouth football.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:04:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 5:04:27 PM EDT by Cnacki77]

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.

Toledo - 13
Michigan - 10

Appalachian State - 34
Michigan - 32

Now go get your shinebox.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:07:51 PM EDT
FL vs. USC

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:09:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 5:10:46 PM EDT by Oakley]
Originally Posted By bassackwards:
FL vs. USC



You really think USC will be anything above average this year?




ETA: I thought there were sanctions against them anyways?
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:09:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.

Toledo - 13
Michigan - 10

Appalachian State - 34
Michigan - 32

Now go get your shinebox.

pfft, extremely rare anomalies.

You guys are on drugs if you think it's always gonna be like this (OSU beating Michigan). Just don't expect us to be so gracious when the annual whooping by Michigan starts happening again.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:10:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 5:10:20 PM EDT by ArmyInfantryVet]

Originally Posted By Oakley:
Originally Posted By bassackwards:
FL vs. USC



You really think USC will be anything above average this year?

USC can't goto any bowl games, that was one of their penalties.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:10:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By krpind:
Pryor is 23 year old?

WTF? Hell I thought he was a Jr.


Probation officer: "Hey I've got this kid the runs a 4.0 flat - barefooted..."

Coach Tressel: "What we have planned here is for you is to replace that TV with this footballl.....Now run it like you stole it and show us what you got"
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:12:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
If Ohio St was in the Big 12 or SEC, there is no way in the hell they'd go undefeated, not a chance.

In fact, OSU is going to lose to Miami.

Toledo - 13
Michigan - 10

Appalachian State - 34
Michigan - 32

Now go get your shinebox.


lol...
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:13:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bassackwards:
FL vs. USC



USC is ineligible for bowl games
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:14:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By georgiarebel6165:
Originally Posted By krpind:
Pryor is 23 year old?

WTF? Hell I thought he was a Jr.


Probation officer: "Hey I've got this kid the runs a 4.0 flat - barefooted..."

Coach Tressel: "What we have planned here is for you is to replace that TV with this footballl.....Now run it like you stole it and show us what you got"


nice racial stereotype
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:15:06 PM EDT
Yes, and they'll come in right behind Alabama...with an SEC team swatting them away like a fly.

Hax
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:15:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 5:15:49 PM EDT by DD977GM2]
Not me

HOOK EM HORNS.....University of TEXAS FTW
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:16:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 5:19:45 PM EDT by georgiarebel6165]
Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By georgiarebel6165:
Originally Posted By krpind:
Pryor is 23 year old?

WTF? Hell I thought he was a Jr.


Probation officer: "Hey I've got this kid the runs a 4.0 flat - barefooted..."

Coach Tressel: "What we have planned here is for you is to replace that TV with this footballl.....Now run it like you stole it and show us what you got"


nice racial stereotype


Did I mention anything about color? Let me guess you voted for Obama Beer summit anyone?
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:18:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:
Pryor is 23 year old?

WTF? Hell I thought he was a Jr.

He just turned 21.

The "23" is the number of starts he has.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:24:48 PM EDT
I think it will be Ohio State vs Boise State in the BCS Championship game.

Florida's got a new QB, they'll lose at least once to someone other than Alabama

Alabama might have issues at running back, they too will lose to an underdog sometime during the season

Texas is also with a new QB, and they showed some chinks in the armor with that game against Nebraska last year.

TCU could also be in the mix.


Now, that being said, I might be eating some tasty crow come Tuesday morning!
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:28:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 5:28:24 PM EDT by georgiarebel6165]
Originally Posted By futuremodal:
I think it will be Ohio State vs Boise State in the BCS Championship game.

Florida's got a new QB, they'll lose at least once to someone other than Alabama

Alabama might have issues at running back, they too will lose to an underdog sometime during the season

Texas is also with a new QB, and they showed some chinks in the armor with that game against Nebraska last year.

TCU could also be in the mix.


Now, that being said, I might be eating some tasty crow come Tuesday morning!


Sadly your probably right. A cream puff schedule and no conference championship is an easy ticket to get there.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:29:55 PM EDT
This seemed like a good place to try out my new avatar.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:31:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ToyCop:
This seemed like a good place to try out my new avatar.




Yep another team that will be on the winning side against michigan this year
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:31:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ToyCop:
This seemed like a good place to try out my new avatar.


good luck with that 6-5 season
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:31:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ToyCop:
This seemed like a good place to try out my new avatar.


who?

Join a conference already. Seriously
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:32:08 PM EDT
Arkansas = nat. champ.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:32:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 5:37:58 PM EDT by ToyCop]

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:
This seemed like a good place to try out my new avatar.


good luck with that 6-5 season

They'll win 7 or 8 and I foresee them joining the Big Ten. The seven in red should be wins. They may squeak another from MSU, Purdue, Utah or Pitt. I'd love to see a USC defeat, but I don't think it's in the cards.

Purdue
Michigan
Michigan State
Stanford
Boston College
Pittsburgh
Western Michigan
Navy
Tulsa
Utah
Army
USC

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:33:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GrassHog:
Arkansas = nat. champ.

Not with Mallett under center.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:34:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:
This seemed like a good place to try out my new avatar.


good luck with that 6-5 season

They'll win 7 or 8 and I foresee them joining the Big Ten.



they're too scared to join the BigTen, if they join a conference, it will be the BigEast
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:38:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GrassHog:
Arkansas = nat. champ.


All these Yankees will blow a gasket if that happens. If a SEC team wins 5 in row the Big Ten might quit playing football altogether. Heard their bowling and table tennis programs are pretty stong though.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:38:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By Chokey:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:
This seemed like a good place to try out my new avatar.


good luck with that 6-5 season

They'll win 7 or 8 and I foresee them joining the Big Ten.



they're too scared to join the BigTen, if they join a conference, it will be the BigEast

Not enough money in the Big East and ND has a bunch of annual Big Ten games already.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:38:55 PM EDT
The same ones who pick them every year..and they lose. Team loyalty usually causes blindness to reality. You don't know who is going to win unless your team has proven it could win or if you have Tim Tebow as quarterback.

Alabama is returning everybody who counts, but they may get bumped off by a hungrier SEC team. There are 4 teams in the SEC that can beat OSU tomorrow morning..that is reality. Without playing tougher teams, they become over-rated as usual and if they get a shot, it will might be against Oklahoma or some other soft scheduled conference team around the country. Boise State? They are good but not great, but they could be playing against whoever in the BCS and win it. But if OSU has to play any SEC team..it is over. They will lose. The SEC is faster and more skilled than most conferences..thats the truth.

This pre-season hype does not help your team get better..it only makes you feel better about their chances. But as usual, they will get blown out of a title game just because they are Ohio State.I wish my Gators could play them every year just for the morale boost it gives the team and fans.
Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:47:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/3/2010 5:48:01 PM EDT by georgiarebel6165]
Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:
The same ones who pick them every year..and they lose. Team loyalty usually causes blindness to reality. You don't know who is going to win unless your team has proven it could win or if you have Tim Tebow as quarterback.

Alabama is returning everybody who counts, but they may get bumped off by a hungrier SEC team. There are 4 teams in the SEC that can beat OSU tomorrow morning..that is reality. Without playing tougher teams, they become over-rated as usual and if they get a shot, it will might be against Oklahoma or some other soft scheduled conference team around the country. Boise State? They are good but not great, but they could be playing against whoever in the BCS and win it. But if OSU has to play any SEC team..it is over. They will lose. The SEC is faster and more skilled than most conferences..thats the truth.

This pre-season hype does not help your team get better..it only makes you feel better about their chances. But as usual, they will get blown out of a title game just because they are Ohio State.I wish my Gators could play them every year just for the morale boost it gives the team and fans.


Just to add to this. 91 of the top espn high school 150 preps are from the Southeast. Now a good portion of the rest are probably from Texas & California. How many does that leave from Big Ten area? All we have to do is keep Big 10 recruiters out of the South.

Link Posted: 9/3/2010 5:50:10 PM EDT
love how all these michigan fans are all butt-hurt over having a crappy coach and an even worse team. You want to talk about records, what was Carr s final win loose against ohio state? Now GTFO, get a real coach, recruit some good players that won't transfer to Arkansas, and give us a challenge at the end of the season.
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