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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:03:21 PM EDT
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ibtp
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:06:24 PM EDT
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IBTFB
These threads have been averaging what, about two bans per lately? 
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:07:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: IBTFB These threads have been averaging what, about two bans per lately? Probably  |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:08:20 PM EDT
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Lets see who fires the first bashing shot...
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:11:05 PM EDT
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"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" - Genesis 1:1
Creation |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:14:01 PM EDT
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At the end of the day I really think it is a personal matter
I think BOTH should be taught and let each person choose |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:15:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" - Genesis 1:1 Creation "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." -Mark 10:6. Which destroys the theistic evolution idea. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:15:19 PM EDT
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I didn't know that September was religion month on arfcom.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:15:31 PM EDT
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atheistic evolution
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:16:02 PM EDT
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At the end of the day I really think it is a personal matter I think BOTH should be taught and let each person choose Not as science, though. Want to teach creation in theology class? Fine, great even. But, keep it out of science class, because it isn't science.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:17:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: At the end of the day I really think it is a personal matter I think BOTH should be taught and let each person choose Not as science, though. Want to teach creation in theology class? Fine, great even. But, keep it out of science class, because it isn't science. This. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:18:25 PM EDT
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"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" - Genesis 1:1 Creation This |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:20:55 PM EDT
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well, at least most folks have rightly figured out that theistic evolution is a dog that won't hunt
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:47:05 PM EDT
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ost
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:51:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" - Genesis 1:1 Creation "In the beginning, back in 1955. Man didn't know 'bout a Rock n' Roll show, and all that jive" - Bon Scott Evolution
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:51:58 PM EDT
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The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:57:42 PM EDT
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creation
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:03:04 PM EDT
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Huh...I don't really like the choices, but I chose atheistic evolution because while I do accept the possibility that the universe was created, I don't believe that this creator guided evolution actively: I think that He/it created the universe with the laws in place to allow for life to begin/evolve and stood back to watch the fun.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:03:37 PM EDT
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There is no conflict between creationism and evolution.
the two can coexist. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:06:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: There is no conflict between creationism and evolution. the two can coexist. I believe that's what arowneragain means by theistic evolution. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:06:58 PM EDT
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Huh...I don't really like the choices, but I chose atheistic evolution because while I do accept the possibility that the universe was created, I don't believe that this creator guided evolution actively: I think that He/it created the universe with the laws in place to allow for life to begin/evolve and stood back to watch the fun. I believe that if you make the rules of the game, you know the outcome of the game. Wouldn't be very entertaining, certainly. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:10:20 PM EDT
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Evolution represents the best scientific explanation for the diversity of life on earth.
There is in fact no competing scientific theory, because the preponderance of evidence so favors evolution. Evolution is the only theory that should be taught in science classes. My $0.02 |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:10:28 PM EDT
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I never expected arfcom to be so Atheist. With some of the other views expressed here on a daily basis it really shocks me. And apart from the odd troll now and again both sides seem to get along pretty well
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:15:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: I never expected arfcom to be so Atheist. With some of the other views expressed here on a daily basis it really shocks me. And apart from the odd troll now and again both sides seem to get along pretty well Yeah well, we may not all believe in 'God and Country' But we Damn sure believe in Country.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:17:42 PM EDT
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Theistic evolution, until I find a theory that better explains the origin of the species.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:18:54 PM EDT
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theistic evolution.
god created the physical universe. science helps us understand how he did it. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:22:03 PM EDT
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Evolution, most likely atheistic.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:23:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: At the end of the day I really think it is a personal matter I think BOTH should be taught and let each person choose What about the other creation stories from other religions? |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:25:59 PM EDT
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"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" - Genesis 1:1 Creation And there it is. 
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:27:04 PM EDT
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At the end of the day I really think it is a personal matter I think BOTH should be taught and let each person choose So my tax dollars should not only be educating your kids in the three Rs, but in your religious beliefs as well? How would you feel about your kids being taught the whole religious spectrum? Not that I have a problem with Vishnu, or Buddha, but I'm pretty sure we don't need them in the classroom. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:30:34 PM EDT
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At the end of the day I really think it is a personal matter I think BOTH should be taught and let each person choose So my tax dollars should not only be educating your kids in the three Rs, but in your religious beliefs as well? How would you feel about your kids being taught the whole religious spectrum? Not that I have a problem with Vishnu, or Buddha, but I'm pretty sure we don't need them in the classroom. If a Biologist showed up at Sunday School and tried to tell the teacher what to teach, most religious people would have a come-apart. Funny how that works.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:34:40 PM EDT
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Evolution is responsible for the diversity of species, their observed biology, the fossil record and the science of of genetics. I don't expect the theory of evolution to be much different in 500 years.
Is there a god? I guess no-one can know for sure, but when push comes to shove I say, no. Thus, I chose Atheist evolution. FWIW I also accept the big bang theory (which creationists often confuse with evolution), as it is the best we have. With all this "dark energy", "dark matter", "dark flow" etc. I wouldn't be surprised at all if 500 years from now our views on cosmology are highly different. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:35:01 PM EDT
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At the end of the day I really think it is a personal matter I think BOTH should be taught and let each person choose What about the other creation stories from other religions? Too much incest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En%C3%BBma_Eli%C5%A1 |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:39:07 PM EDT
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Creation makes me think of Eddie Izzard and his bit about god.
Originally By Eddie Izzard: "I think on the seventh day, God was running around, going, "Oh, my God! What haven’t I…? Rwanda! I better create Rwanda! Sorry, haven’t quite done that… The Tower of Pisa! Oh, it’s leaning… Oh, shi… done! Toilets in French camping sites… there we go. English football hooligans… there we go, whatever that is… Mrs. Thatcher’s heart… there we go… oh, fuck that! I know, I’ll put a stone in, that’ll work! There we go…” The next week, I think, people are coming back, going, "Rwanda doesn’t work very well; infrastructure’s fucked.” |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 1:42:43 PM EDT
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Lessee...
Stephen Hawking is an idiot/genius Richard Dawkins believes in Aliens Christians are backwater rednecks / the only ones who know the truth Macro-evolution is true/false You can't prove God Only fools don't believe in God Only dislexics believe in Dog There's a lizard now that used to lay eggs and is now giving live birth... Darwin (did/did not) recant evolution at his death The bible was written by <God/Aliens/Jewish Rednecks> (pick up to 2) Einstein (was/was not) a believer Creation didn't occur in 7 days, it was clearly 88 Jesus likes beans in his Chili The earth is clearly evolved from bacon did I miss any? I used to get into this stuff... Now I just sit back and enjoy the ride!!! ETA: and JMB was God's prophet, clearly (even Arfcom atheists believe this) |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 2:17:19 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Lessee... Stephen Hawking is an idiot/genius Richard Dawkins believes in Aliens Christians are backwater rednecks / the only ones who know the truth Macro-evolution is true/false You can't prove God Only fools don't believe in God Only dislexics believe in Dog There's a lizard now that used to lay eggs and is now giving live birth... Darwin (did/did not) recant evolution at his death The bible was written by <God/Aliens/Jewish Rednecks> (pick up to 2) Einstein (was/was not) a believer Creation didn't occur in 7 days, it was clearly 88 Jesus likes beans in his Chili The earth is clearly evolved from bacon did I miss any? My balls hurt. Wait, which thread is this? 
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Posted: 9/3/2010 3:56:42 PM EDT
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Huh...I don't really like the choices, but I chose atheistic evolution because while I do accept the possibility that the universe was created, I don't believe that this creator guided evolution actively: I think that He/it created the universe with the laws in place to allow for life to begin/evolve and stood back to watch the fun. I believe that if you make the rules of the game, you know the outcome of the game. Wouldn't be very entertaining, certainly. No, not at all. There are literally hundreds of billions of way things could have turned out and could still turn out, all according to the laws of physics. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:03:42 PM EDT
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Evolution represents the best scientific explanation for the diversity of life on earth that excludes the possibility of a creator. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:04:23 PM EDT
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Evolution represents the best scientific explanation for the diversity of life on earth that excludes the possibility of a creator. That would be baseless convolution, not an explanation. Jesus likes beans in his Chili
No stronger argument has ever been made for atheism. I will worship no god that subjects man to such cruelty. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:05:53 PM EDT
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Jesus likes beans in his Chili
No stronger argument has ever been made for atheism. I will worship no god that subjects man to such cruelty. I gotta go with the J Man on this one.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:07:03 PM EDT
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What? No athiestic creation option?
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:14:57 PM EDT
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Don't remember ever doing this here, but...... poll coming. Plenty of other threads for discussion; just wanting a head count in this one. I think your "theistic evolution" is generally referred to as "Intelligent Design". ETA As I understand it, the creationist view is that the earth is only like 7-10 thousand years old. This has been proven false. For it to be true, the very nature of matter would have had to change over time. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:32:32 PM EDT
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I never expected arfcom to be so Atheist. With some of the other views expressed here on a daily basis it really shocks me. And apart from the odd troll now and again both sides seem to get along pretty well Yeah well, we may not all believe in 'God and Country' But we Damn sure believe in Country. I believe in God, but, I figure I could be just as happy, if not happier, in several other countries...I just happen to be in this one. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:39:18 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I never expected arfcom to be so Atheist. With some of the other views expressed here on a daily basis it really shocks me. And apart from the odd troll now and again both sides seem to get along pretty well Yeah well, we may not all believe in 'God and Country' But we Damn sure believe in Country. DAMN RIGHT!! |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:43:48 PM EDT
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There is no conflict between creationism and evolution. the two can coexist. I believe that's what arowneragain means by theistic evolution. The concept of time, in modern physics (modern meaning since Einstein), says that time isn't a straight arrow from past to present. Physicists look at what they observe now, run the rules in reverse, and come up with theories about what the past was like. Whenever the universe was created, you could still extrapolate from the state it was in at the beginning at what it's past was like. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:44:27 PM EDT
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"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" - Genesis 1:1 Creation http://a.imageshack.us/img255/7357/ciclobiblico.jpg You can't use the bible to justify it is true. |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 4:50:29 PM EDT
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I never expected arfcom to be so Atheist. With some of the other views expressed here on a daily basis it really shocks me. And apart from the odd troll now and again both sides seem to get along pretty well Yeah well, we may not all believe in 'God and Country' But we Damn sure believe in Country. I believe in God, but, I figure I could be just as happy, if not happier, in several other countries...I just happen to be in this one. Well then, later.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 5:20:00 PM EDT
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"We thank you, Lord, for this mighty fine intelligent design"
seriously though... creation |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 5:27:58 PM EDT
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Creation.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 5:39:08 PM EDT
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Huh...I don't really like the choices, but I chose atheistic evolution because while I do accept the possibility that the universe was created, I don't believe that this creator guided evolution actively: I think that He/it created the universe with the laws in place to allow for life to begin/evolve and stood back to watch the fun. "you can choose not to choose....but you will still have made a choice"
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