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Posted: 9/2/2010 4:56:37 PM EDT
I cant stand being here anymore, home that is.
Im a college grad, just made it out in june. been on the hunt for a job since early may and ive got no more than a phone call for one to two days work at best.

I work part time for a healthcare corp. in the area as a systems analyst making more than most people employed by them but its only part time work but it is in my area of study. I have a bachelor of business administration with a focus in information systems.

my area sucks, KY.
i'm sick of being home living with my parents listening to my alcoholic father tell me how worthless i am because i "dont have a job"


to put it short, im tired of this fuckin shit im ready to do something and never come back to this shit pit.

tell me about the military.
im looking at the Army or Marines, i dont wanna get a shitstorm started but those are the two branches im considering.
I like schedules, consistency, and order. I love firearms obviously, I like being healthy in shape and to be honest I dont think I would mind going to the sandbox. obviously I cant speak from experience and thats why I want vets and current mil guys opinions.

once I decide what im gonna do im not gonna half ass it and drop out or try to get out of it, I will either succeed in what I do or ill die trying to do it.

this is a serious post so leave the bullshit out, I want facts and previous experiences

opinions guys?
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 4:58:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2010 5:01:42 PM EDT by operatorerror]
What type of degree in what field?

eta ooops
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:00:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By operatorerror:
What type of degree in what field?


re-read the 3rd and 4th sentence in my OP
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:01:36 PM EDT
Join the air force and don't look back

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Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:02:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By xLucidx:
I cant stand being here anymore, home that is.
Im a college grad, just made it out in june. been on the hunt for a job since early may and ive got no more than a phone call for one to two days work at best.

I work part time for a healthcare corp. in the area as a systems analyst making more than most people employed by them but its only part time work but it is in my area of study. I have a bachelor of business administration with a focus in information systems.

my area sucks, KY.
i'm sick of being home living with my parents listening to my alcoholic father tell me how worthless i am because i "dont have a job"


to put it short, im tired of this fuckin shit im ready to do something and never come back to this shit pit.

tell me about the military.
im looking at the Army or Marines, i dont wanna get a shitstorm started but those are the two branches im considering.
I like schedules, consistency, and order. I love firearms obviously, I like being healthy in shape and to be honest I dont think I would mind going to the sandbox. obviously I cant speak from experience and thats why I want vets and current mil guys opinions.

once I decide what im gonna do im not gonna half ass it and drop out or try to get out of it, I will either succeed in what I do or ill die trying to do it.

this is a serious post so leave the bullshit out, I want facts and previous experiences

opinions guys?

dang the way that post started, I thought you were going to be on TV tonight held up with hostages at the offices of the Military Channel
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:02:40 PM EDT
I'm not understanding the question. Figure out what you want to do, and Just DO IT.

Talk to a recruiter and do it.





Never confuse
motion with action.

- Benjamin Franklin



Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:03:12 PM EDT
Basic answer I give to folks is that it will be some of the best, and worst times of your life. And it's well worth doing.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:03:21 PM EDT
The sandbox is dreary and horrendously boring.

Except when it's terrifying.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:04:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Join the air force and don't look back

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile

+1, from an Army guy.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:04:19 PM EDT
Army signal corps officer - do it
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:04:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Join the air force and don't look back

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


advantages? why the Air Force?

elaborate please.


ive requested more info on the website, ill probably hear from the recruiters tomorrow or next week
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:04:46 PM EDT
Army, MOS 15T. Look it up.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:06:04 PM EDT
being serious.. I am in my mid 40's now and I look back at my time in the service very fondly.
I wouldn't trade it for anything and at the time, I didn't think it was anything special.
Working in close proximity to nukes and one bad arse delivery system day to day was just a job for a fool 20 year old kid.

It was one of the best things I ever did and of course, I got out before Clinton came into office
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:07:25 PM EDT
Join up

I moved out at 18 lived on my own a couple of years then Joined the Navy at 20

I loved it.

I like the Navy, clean rack to sleep in, Good Chow, and get to see the world.

Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:08:54 PM EDT
if your in shape you might like ocs.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:09:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By skunk-ape:
being serious.. I am in my mid 40's now and I look back at my time in the service very fondly.
I wouldn't trade it for anything and at the time, I didn't think it was anything special.
Working in close proximity to nukes and one bad arse delivery system day to day was just a job for a fool 20 year old kid.

It was one of the best things I ever did and of course, I got out before Clinton came into office


what did you do if you dont mind my asking?
did you have a college degree?
go in strait from highschool?
advancements?


Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:10:09 PM EDT
Join a branch that's been around since 1775.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:11:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:
Join up

I moved out at 18 lived on my own a couple of years then Joined the Navy at 20

I loved it.

I like the Navy, clean rack to sleep in, Good Chow, and get to see the world.



my 1st cousin is in the navy
he is in the horn of africa right now, hes an LT

thats about all i know, he likes it some days and some days he hates it.


what did you do in the navy?
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:11:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2010 5:15:33 PM EDT by Ghoulardi]
fuck man, nobody says you got to stay in shitstain, ky. with your parents and try to find a job there. there is the rest of country you can go to for a job. my nephew graduated with a bachlor degree in mathamatics, from ohio university, jobs for teachers in NE ohio pay low, so he found a job in nothern Va. with a teaching position in HS for a starting salary of 45K a year. and they are paying a good portion of his tuition for his masters degree.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:13:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By xLucidx:
Originally Posted By skunk-ape:
being serious.. I am in my mid 40's now and I look back at my time in the service very fondly.
I wouldn't trade it for anything and at the time, I didn't think it was anything special.
Working in close proximity to nukes and one bad arse delivery system day to day was just a job for a fool 20 year old kid.

It was one of the best things I ever did and of course, I got out before Clinton came into office


what did you do if you dont mind my asking?
did you have a college degree?
go in strait from highschool?
advancements?


USAF Security Specialist worked mostly around the new plane at the time, the B-1
My parents could not afford to put me through college and at the time, the job I thought I wanted, Game Warden, accepted military police service instead of a two year criminal justice degree, but while I was in, that changed and I changed.

I was signed up in the DEP (Delayed Enlistment Program) six months before I graduated High School and left for basic 15 days after graduation


Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:15:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KerryW:
Army signal corps officer - do it

Signal Corps? Oh, sorry your OCS class only has 1 signal corps slot. We got plenty of FA/ADA/Transpo jobs though...
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:16:09 PM EDT
From a Navy guy...... JOIN THE AIR FORCE put in twenty years and retire, you won't regret it. The Air Force has the best of everything. DO IT !
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:16:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ghoulardi:
fuck man, nobody says you got to stay in shitstain, ky. with your parents and try to find a job there. there is the rest of country you can go to for a job. my nephew graduated with a bachlor degree in mathamatics, from ohio university, jobs for teachers in NE ohio pay low, so he found a job in nothern Va. with a teaching position in HS for a starting salary of 45K a year. and they are paying a good portion of his tuitionas he goes for his masters degree.


ied love to get outta here and move to any other free gun state
but i just cant get anywhere with jobs
ive probably got 200 resume's out right now just hoping i get contacted.

the economy is so damn bad i couldnt pay someone to let me work
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:17:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Pappy118:
From a Navy guy...... JOIN THE AIR FORCE put in twenty years and retire, you won't regret it. The Air Force has the best of everything. DO IT !


elaborate

what about is better, i want details.
not just someone on the internet telling me one is better than the other, give me the scoop
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:18:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2010 5:20:45 PM EDT by Beltfedleadhead]

Originally Posted By xLucidx:
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Join the air force and don't look back

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


advantages? why the Air Force?

elaborate please.


ive requested more info on the website, ill probably hear from the recruiters tomorrow or next week

The USAF is a great service for quality of life and education. You'll get a lot of responsibility and technical knowledge in your field. You can get promoted quickly and have a great career if you keep your nose clean.

HOWEVER, you will be fucking BURIED in regulations, AF publications, local procedures, forms, and SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY! I personally didn't want a career that slowly became more and more desk-oriented. It all depends on your AFSC, though. I was a 2A373A, an F-15C/D/E crew chief.

One thing I didn't like, oddly enough, was the utter lack of discipline in the ranks. There was a lot of behavior that in other services would result in reduction in rank and pay. It's actually pretty hard to lose a stripe in the USAF.

Basic was a walk in the park. All academics, and some calisthenics. Get used to running a lot and doing lots of situps. Field training was a joke. We played fucking flashlight tag. This was 10 years ago, and I really hope it's improved since then.

I loved my time in, and would go back if I had the opportunity, but there were some definite times where I just scratched my head at the way things were done.

My advice if you go USAF is to get an aircrew job, something that travels a lot. See the world, meet people from other countries and laugh at their dirty, broken jets.

Finish your degree when you can and get a commission if you want to go career. Most importantly, SAVE YOUR MONEY. Don't drink your paycheck, and don't nail any chicks that live in the trailer parks outside the base. They see you as a meal ticket outta Podunk, USA.



Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:19:43 PM EDT
USMC
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:20:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2010 5:23:55 PM EDT by cbsaf]
Originally Posted By xLucidx:
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Join the air force and don't look back

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


advantages? why the Air Force?

elaborate please.


ive requested more info on the website, ill probably hear from the recruiters tomorrow or next week


Because as generic and broad a representation as this picture may be. The basic principle of what is being shown is true. There are exceptions to the rule but in general Air Force standards of living are higher. Dad did 26 years in the Army. When I told him I was going to join the Army, he made sure he drove me to the recruiter. When we got there, he made damned sure I went in the Air Force door. I am grateful for him doing that for me. YMMV.



Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:21:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By xLucidx:
I cant stand being here anymore, home that is.
Im a college grad, just made it out in june. been on the hunt for a job since early may and ive got no more than a phone call for one to two days work at best.

I work part time for a healthcare corp. in the area as a systems analyst making more than most people employed by them but its only part time work but it is in my area of study. I have a bachelor of business administration with a focus in information systems.

my area sucks, KY.
i'm sick of being home living with my parents listening to my alcoholic father tell me how worthless i am because i "dont have a job"


to put it short, im tired of this fuckin shit im ready to do something and never come back to this shit pit.

tell me about the military.
im looking at the Army or Marines, i dont wanna get a shitstorm started but those are the two branches im considering.
I like schedules, consistency, and order. I love firearms obviously, I like being healthy in shape and to be honest I dont think I would mind going to the sandbox. obviously I cant speak from experience and thats why I want vets and current mil guys opinions.

once I decide what im gonna do im not gonna half ass it and drop out or try to get out of it, I will either succeed in what I do or ill die trying to do it.

this is a serious post so leave the bullshit out, I want facts and previous experiences

opinions guys?

You chose.... poorly.

The world is OVERFLOWING with MBAs. Half the ENGINEERS I work with have MBAs because it's "an easy masters." You need to go to grad school just to get a degree that can compete with them..

Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:22:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Join the air force and don't look back

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


+1 (from a guy who wore both Marine and Army uniforms over 9 years 3&6 respectively.)
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:25:04 PM EDT
I was on base about a week ago talking with some gentlemen who informed me that the USMC is pretty 'full' on officers atm, something like a 120% capacity.

They advised my friend that the best way to get in right now is to have a near 300pft, the higher the better.

Just what I was told, might have to take it with a grain of salt.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:27:00 PM EDT
I'm an Army recruiter, and I recently had an Air Force officer come to my office to see about transferring over to the Army. USAF and USN are both restructuring right now. Might be tough just getting in.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:28:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pappy118:
From a Navy guy...... JOIN THE AIR FORCE put in twenty years and retire, you won't regret it. The Air Force has the best of everything. DO IT !
Ding! This is a +1.

Better pay.
Better chow.
Better bases.
Smarter people.
etc...

Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:28:56 PM EDT
Go Navy. Hell...go anything. No person worth a shit has ever not benefitted from the military...unless, of course, you get injured or killed in combat, die in a shipboard fire or plane crash, etc....but hey....where was I....oh yea.

I enlisted in the Navy at the age of 25 and stayed for 10 years. It was the best thing I ever did, and it changed my life.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:29:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By xLucidx:
Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:
Join up

I moved out at 18 lived on my own a couple of years then Joined the Navy at 20

I loved it.

I like the Navy, clean rack to sleep in, Good Chow, and get to see the world.



my 1st cousin is in the navy
he is in the horn of africa right now, hes an LT

thats about all i know, he likes it some days and some days he hates it.


what did you do in the navy?


I was an aircraft mechanic

I wanted to be a Machinist but could not do that on my 1st enlistment

I cut a 93 on the ASVAB so I was pretty open
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:30:23 PM EDT
Have you considered relocating for employment?

Moving to an IT rich area?

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Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:31:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DoubleARon:
I'm an Army recruiter, and I recently had an Air Force officer come to my office to see about transferring over to the Army. USAF and USN are both restructuring right now. Might be tough just getting in.


thanks for the heads up

im gonna request info from all the branches, and see what they tell me
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:31:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:
Originally Posted By xLucidx:
Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:
Join up

I moved out at 18 lived on my own a couple of years then Joined the Navy at 20

I loved it.

I like the Navy, clean rack to sleep in, Good Chow, and get to see the world.



my 1st cousin is in the navy
he is in the horn of africa right now, hes an LT

thats about all i know, he likes it some days and some days he hates it.


what did you do in the navy?


I was an aircraft mechanic

I wanted to be a Machinist but could not do that on my 1st enlistment

I cut a 93 on the ASVAB so I was pretty open

That is so WEIRD!

I've yet to meet anyone, anywhere who scored below 90% on the ASVAB!


Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:32:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Sykkone:

Originally Posted By Pappy118:
From a Navy guy...... JOIN THE AIR FORCE put in twenty years and retire, you won't regret it. The Air Force has the best of everything. DO IT !
Ding! This is a +1.

Better pay.
Better chow.
Better bases.
Smarter people.
etc...



My dad was in the Air-Force

When I told him I joined the Navy he said (something to the effect)
The Air Force was like the Cub Scouts, The Navy well thats the Real deal



Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:33:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Beltfedleadhead:

Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:
Originally Posted By xLucidx:
Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:
Join up

I moved out at 18 lived on my own a couple of years then Joined the Navy at 20

I loved it.

I like the Navy, clean rack to sleep in, Good Chow, and get to see the world.



my 1st cousin is in the navy
he is in the horn of africa right now, hes an LT

thats about all i know, he likes it some days and some days he hates it.


what did you do in the navy?


I was an aircraft mechanic

I wanted to be a Machinist but could not do that on my 1st enlistment

I cut a 93 on the ASVAB so I was pretty open

That is so WEIRD!

I've yet to meet anyone, anywhere who scored below 90% on the ASVAB!



You know a lot of liars!
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:34:22 PM EDT
You could also go half-way and become a Reservist or National Guardsman.

With a bachelor's degree, you can see about earning a commission as well. You have plenty of options.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:34:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2010 5:35:26 PM EDT by Mr_Harry]
Originally Posted By Beltfedleadhead:

Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:
Originally Posted By xLucidx:
Originally Posted By Mr_Harry:
Join up

I moved out at 18 lived on my own a couple of years then Joined the Navy at 20

I loved it.

I like the Navy, clean rack to sleep in, Good Chow, and get to see the world.



my 1st cousin is in the navy
he is in the horn of africa right now, hes an LT

thats about all i know, he likes it some days and some days he hates it.


what did you do in the navy?


I was an aircraft mechanic

I wanted to be a Machinist but could not do that on my 1st enlistment

I cut a 93 on the ASVAB so I was pretty open

That is so WEIRD!

I've yet to meet anyone, anywhere who scored below 90% on the ASVAB!




I did we had a kid in boot camp who scored a 19, I was like WTF, the Company
commander told for every guy like me than can put in a guy like him

I guess they needed paint chippers.



Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:34:55 PM EDT
be a man.... USMC
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:35:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By skygod:
Have you considered relocating for employment?

Moving to an IT rich area?

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile



yea, im open to live just about anywhere

the problem is i like to have a solid footing before i make a step, its hard for someone in kentucky to apply for and get hired for a job in florida, new york, or atlanta unless you have outstanding credentials. im just an average joe.

i dont like the idea of saving money and just going somewhere hoping that i can get a job, especially with the world the way it is.
im not one to gamble, unless i know im going to win.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:36:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Greenamphibious:
be a man.... USMC


Or you can go that route

I'm not Man enough
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:36:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 2000Z3M:
Join the air force and don't look back

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


OP Said militar
I KEED (sorta)

40X
Balls to the wall boy.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:36:46 PM EDT
In this economy, you're probably better off doing a 4-6 year stint in the armed forces.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:36:50 PM EDT
Don't decide anything out of anger. If I were to join again I would choose the Airforce or Navy to get a better job that would transition me to a civi job. I was in the Marines, Infantry so theres not a lot of job options out there for me. A buddy of mine did 4 years in the navy, got out then went right into a 65k a year job.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:39:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Beltfedleadhead:
The sandbox is dreary and horrendously boring.

Except when it's terrifying.


nailed it! But other than that, you'll be dog tired every single day of your life, get to bed late and out of bed early...but all in all, I absolutely love the fuckin Army!!!!!
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:39:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/2/2010 5:42:21 PM EDT by 99Tarbox]

Originally Posted By Beltfedleadhead:
The sandbox is dreary and horrendously boring.

Except when it's terrifying.

This. Navy was very good to me, and I even played Army in the sandbox. Now I'm Air Force (fed civ) and love it. If you love guns, go PJ in the Air Force.
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:40:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sykkone:

Originally Posted By Pappy118:
From a Navy guy...... JOIN THE AIR FORCE put in twenty years and retire, you won't regret it. The Air Force has the best of everything. DO IT !
Ding! This is a +1.

Better pay.
Better chow.
Better bases.
Smarter people.
etc...


Pay looks the same to me.
(enlisted side)
Link Posted: 9/2/2010 5:40:04 PM EDT
Just from reading your post you sound pretty pissed and from experience when you're pissed that isn't the best time to make life changing decisions. If you truly want to be in the military then go for it. My dad did 20 in the navy and I have plenty of relatives that served as well and I think very highly of all of them. That being said if that is the only way you can see to escape your current situation you're probably wrong. Try to think with a level head and best of luck in what you do.
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