I understand you can be declared disabled and get out of your bankruptcy.

Run up your bills, get depressed and get declared disabled.

Repeat.

You forgot being a libtard qualifies also.

Yeah, so what about the other eye, Cyclops?   Is there something else you didn't mention, or is it just one out of two eyes working normally?  

Can you pass the state administered driver's license test?     If so, you can do just about any job out there involving computers, a desk, a cash register or a sales floor.   Short of flying airliners or driving a semi, you're "enabled" to earn a living the way 90% of the rest of us do (and I only use one eye at a time).  


ETA:  sorry that came off as rude - but I am missing the part where "blind in one eye" is a disability?   Do you think you're unable to support yourself - or were you an NFL wide-receiver fallen on hard times?

Free money? They get SSD. Social Security Disablility money.

It's OBAMA'S MONEY - right out of his own STASH!!!

This thread caused my disability.

Well, for me it started with cancer in my spinal cord.  I had surgery to remove as much of the 3 tumors as the neurosurgeon could.

Then came 30 days of radiation treatments to my entire central nervous system from the top of my head to just above my ass.

Now, the radiation has fried the motor neurons along my spinal cord.  My legs have slowly gotten weaker and weaker and the first 2 toes on my right foot feel (only occasionally thank God) like they're being cooked in blazing hot oil.  I have to take some pretty strong pain pills almost daily.

I fall a lot.  I went from limping to using a cane to using a walker.  Every once in a while now I have to use a wheelchair.

During these falls I have broken my legs 3 times and have broken both ankles.

Guess what?  I'm STILL working full time as a hospital pharmacist.  When I finally have to quit (and it WILL happen, pretty soon I'd guess) and go on disability it will be with my head held high.

I have suffered and struggled for a long time and I'm sick and tired of it.

I have also paid a LOT of money into the social security fund and it won't bother me one damned bit to get some of it back.

Bravo!   There's still a few men left in the world.

Its easy money for not working.

Before folks get upset I know there are people who are genuinely unable to work due to injury/illness.

I also know a guy who got burned several years ago.  He hunts, fishes, camps out, rides ATVs, does electrical and carpentry work for people, etc. and has moved from one state to another and visited countless doctors and attorneys over the years to maintain his "disabled" status.  If he goes to a doctor that says he is not disabled he just goes to another doctor, and another, and another, till he finds one that says, "yes, you are disabled" and fills out the proper paperwork.

He does anything he wants to do except work for a living.

I know people where I work that will go out on disability for just short of 6 months and then come back to work for awhile and then go out on disability again, for just short of 6 months.  Why 6 months?  Because after 6 months they lose their job.  If they come back for a few months they can go out again for another 6 months.  If they claim its a FMLA case the company won't question it or pressure them to come back to work and the absences can't be held against them for attendance reasons.

stinson, youre more of a man than a hell of a lot of people.



 

Several years ago,I finally got my wife to actually file for SSI disability.
She was involved in a head on collision with a drunk driver when she was 18. Totally jacked her back, left leg, left arm up, crushed ribs, collapsed lung, you name it.
Died in surgery and was revived. Six months in various stages of traction/recovery.
End result: no meniscus in left knee, left hip does not work all the time, slightly crooked left arm, rib cage is lopsided, degenerative disc disease in her back. Add in severe asthma and a mitral valve prolapse just for fun.

She worked until she was 42, when the constant pain simply became too much to function on. Factor in no more than two hours per night uninterrupted sleep because pain would wake her up.
They will not replace her knee (too young) and her back issue would put her fully in a wheelchair if worked on.
She finally got onto disability after two years of total hassle.
Her last job fired her because she could not go up and down two flights of stairs. She was a church secretary. Compassionate, no? Exempt from the ADA? Yep, and most other labor laws too.

Anyway, she was worried about the stigma of being "disabled" and being labeled lazy, slacker, leech, welfare, and all the other wonderful names I've seen some of you self-righteous people use here.

Not everyone on disability is a lazy loser. Most of you loudmouth pussies would have cried for your mommies if you'd dealt with half the pain she did- and does- on a day to day basis.
She can't stand for any length of time-knee.
Cannot sit in one position for any extended length of time-back.
Cannot lift more than 10 pounds- back
Has frequent asthma attacks and has the lung power of a lung cancer victim (has never smoked).
She gets $800 a month.

If you pay well for something, you tend to get more of it.

This is why subsidizing failure is a bad idea.

Simple answer: The govt subsidizes 'disability' so we get more 'disability'.  Whatever you subsidize you get more of.

I don't think anyone is bothered by the idea of disability coverage for people like you who are in tough situations.  What bothers us is the coverage of people who are in self-made minor situations and don't really need it.

Put another way, the ones who choose disability only hurt the ones who need it, and that's what's so offensive about them.

A former friend of mine was rated at 30% by the VA for his back, knees, etc but was still on jump status with the reserve SF unit in Colorado as a wrench in HQ Co.......had the disabled parking plates on both of his vehicles, but was still jumping out of airplanes.



Mine, I did while in LE, blew out two discs, had them fused, still all FVBAR.....for me, its like I can walk 500 steps a day, so I'd rather use those steps actually walking in the store, or out enjoying a bit of the state, instead of using up 300 of those steps just getting from the parking lot.  Sometimes I use the electric carts in the store, if I'm having a good, bad back day, I'll walk leaning on the shopping cart and use my cane.

Damn right, This is the kind of guy I want to have it...

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying you better read the fine print. They will pay you for two years wth virtually no argument so long as you are disabled from doing your "current/previous" job. After two years, they will then send you to an "independent" examiner to determine if you are permanently disabled from doing "any" job. It will NOT be your doctor. He is not "independent", he is YOUR physician. The "independent" examiner does not technically work for the insurance company. But you can bet they have the insuance company's interest in mind more than yours since they receive payment for services. They don't work for free after all.

This "examination" will require a day's worht of pointless painfull physical tests. They will pressure you to perform or be labeled a "faker", even while you can't physically complete the tests without pain to the point of tears. They will use your blood pressure test results during the physical tests to determine you are not in pain (not everybody's blood pressure goes up with pain response, especially those who are used to living with long term pain). Then, they will totally fuck you out of the disability insurance you paid them for when you need it most. Nevermind the three licensed specialist physicians who testify you are in fact totally and completely permanently disabled. And nevermind the fact that the US government also took the word of these physicians and determined you to be totally and completely permanently disabled. And nevermind your ailment is on the approved list of the Social Security disabilities which is why you were approved for Social Security disability benefits in the first place. A licensed physical therapist will trump all of this.

Now, after disapproval of long term private diability insurance, one might think there would be an appeal process. And there is. But reversing the original decision is not in the insurance company's financial interests, which is why you were cut off in the first place. And unless you live in NY or CA, there likely will be no attorneys to help you sue the insurance company to get the benefits you deserve and PAID for. So in the end, you are screwed out of your work related disability insurance and your mortgage disability insurance. Don't ask me how I know.

How the hell does someone like that get disability?

I am terminally ill with a 60% chance of making it another year unless I get a replacement organ. I checked into disability and I was turned down, go figure. I only asked because it is really rough on the family and my meds are expensive.

But I don't know why so many people get it, seems wrong to me.

I am partially disabled from a back injury I sustained in the Military

But....


I work Full-Time and refuse to get a Handicap tag, It is also close
to a half mile walk from the parking lot to the building I work in.


I will admit it bugs me to see people who leach off the system

When I lived in the south people were getting SS just because
they were general fuckups with no disabilities other than laziness

Really?

Part of the deal in our paying servicemembers shit is the promise that we will cover them permanently in the event of injury or illness, and that we will look after their families in the event of death.

That's not charity, it's part of the deal.  You should accept your benefits, you're who they're intended for.

Maybe you need to spend a week wearing an eye patch, see if causes any difficulties for you. "Walk a mile in anothers shoes"

The allure of living off of other peoples money, given to you by the .gov

Otherwise know as "OBAMA MONEY."

J-

Haha then a lot of my female Asian friends are going to pissed when I tell them that.... most are around 4'8"

I used to know a chick who had a metal plate in her shoulder.  She was PISSED that a doctor would not give her a handicapped parking spot, and when I mentioned that she might not have that big of a disability... she broke down and bawled.

Some folks like to have things easy.  Some like the special attention from having a disability.  And some are just plain crazy.

I'm in Denial


As long as I can go on I'm going to

Dont tell that to the guy here that sucks the fed government cock! He might hit the report button or something

Sir, I believe while he was in jail for punching the guy he had a panel of head doctors testify that due to his rage he would never be able to hold down a job.

Thoughts and prayers on the way for your recovery.

A.D.H.D is even a disability!!!    
I like seeing someone with a handicapped tage with an ATV in the back!

Oh... some treat it as a "badge of honor" if I had to drag my leg-less body across the p-lot, I wouldnt have one!!!

Abject laziness and unwillingness to work, IMHO
Disgusts me and I deal with these people everyday

Ahh yes, the single most common myth about disability - the automatic initial denial.

In truth, ~40% of all SSI / SSDI initial claims are allowed. If you take into account the number of claims filed for broken arms, pregnancy, gingivitis, yadda yada, you'd recognize how high that number is as far as legitimate claims go.

Are there problems with the system? Brother, you have no idea. But most of the "problems" you hear about in the general community are utter horseshit.



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Little People of America (LPA) defines dwarfism as a medical or genetic condition that usually results in an adult height of 4'10" or shorter, among both men and women, although in some cases a person with a dwarfing condition may be slightly taller than that. The average height of an adult with dwarfism is 4'0, but typical heights range from 2'8 to 4'8.


if your friends are 4 ft 8" thats dwarfism , they are considered "Little People"

While dwarfism will cause you to be shot in stature, being short does not mean that you have dwarfism.

OP:  Were you around 50 years and an adult?
        I doubt it.
        The average life expectancy of a US citizen around 1900 was about 45 years.
         The average male in agricultural America in the 1800s was disabled by the age of 40.  There were no surgeries for knee replacements, hip replacements.  There weren't the shoulder surgeries that are common today.  My great grandfather wore a truss from the Civil War on because there was no surgery.   I simply went to Kaiser and a plastic mesh was put in my stomach and I was good to go the next day.  I have also had both shoulders done and a couple of spinal blocks.  50 years ago I would have been considered disabled.  Today, I did my daily weight work out and will go dancing tonight.  
         I remember when a Justice of the California Supreme Court was cataract surgery number 2000 in the US - and that was in the 1970s.  Now you have people advertising that they have done 35,000 lasix surgeries in their offices.

         One in five volunteers after Pearl Harbor was rejected on the grounds of malnutrition.


          I had a superior Uncle pass on a few weeks short of age 99 this year.  He was a plastic surgeon in Hollywood.  He went straight from high school to being an Osteopath.  Try going form high school to medical school in 2010.  He became a plastic surgeon when there was no specialty.  A woman came in asking for plastic surgery and when he protested that he knew nothing about it, she said she had had it already and would tell him what to do.  Medicine has come a long way since even the 1930s.

          OP - you already know that most people are disabled by drinking, eating too much, not exercising.  Or am I wrong?
I went to my 45th high school reunion last year.  Virtually all were overweight and sedentary.  The only reason that I could dance for three hours is that I spend an hour in the gym every day.
         

What the government subsidizes (disability) it gets more of.  What it taxes (work) it gets less of.

My uncle tried to get on SSI disability.  He's worked a grand total of 3 years or so, out of his 55 or so years of life.  He's spent the rest of the time drunk as fuck, living with my grandmother.  It was a glorious day when he was turned down.  They were so sad, I was so happy.

I know someone who was too "disabled" to work because of bad knees among other things. Didn't have a problem golfing, doing yard work etc. When they reached regular retirement age they were miraculously cured and no longer need the knee braces. The family called this person out a little but not too much because they benefitted from the free $ too.

People will always opt for a payday if thats an option.

My dad had lung cancer for well over a year and continued working (on the railroad, which ain't easy) until the day he died. At work.

Its easy to give up on people as useless shitebags but there are plenty of people who aren't.

I can't think of a single person I know with a legitimate disability that wasn't denied.  My niece's husband was blown out of a third story window while working as a fireman, and he was denied.  His claim was finally approved about ten years later a couple of weeks after he died.  I used to do about 600 tax returns a year, and I found-out a lot of people are on disability.  None of them were legitimate.  It's as if the system is designed to reward only the scammers.  It's like most things government-related.z

So if I owned a business and refused to hire someone based on their obesity, I can be sued under the ADA???  For a self-inflicted condition???  Unreal.

My 27 year old brother has MS and is having a difficult time getting disability, he wants to work, but no one will hire him in his condition

Fancy that, a "runt" sticker.

Didn't read all the posts, but way back when I lived in CA I was the only one who didn't claim they had a back injury of some kind at the place I worked.

This was only evident when a truck would arrive and needed to be unloaded and the warehouse manager was out on a delivery.

Of course, these were all the same people that rode their mountain and road bikes religiously, snow skiied, water skiied, etc.

I have NO doubt that therte are genuinely disabled folks out there. However, there's a lot of fucking liar/leeches as well.

Well, somewhere around 50,000 of them were WIA in IQ and A-stan since 2001..

Just put the food up higher, make em' work for it as in welfare/EBT card holders have to shop at a special store that just has healthy foods and is located on top a hill with no access other than by foot. Like no little rascal type vehicle access. Revoke Handicap permits for those not in crutches or terminally pregnant...everyone else could use the extra "exercise" of walking from the back of the lot.

That would be a good start.

In a similar vein:



One of my college professors told us yesterday that the parking situation would improve remarkably in a couple weeks––   The welfare recipients will stop going to school as soon as the school writes them a check for their excess financial aid funds