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Posted: 4/11/2002 1:43:05 PM EDT
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/04/11/srilankan.peace/index.html
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 1:43:55 PM EDT
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[url]http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/04/11/srilankan.peace/index.html[/url]

[img]http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/04/11/srilankan.peace/story.rebel.sl.ap.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 1:45:40 PM EDT
[#2]
A 'lil one!



Edited to add; ETH, you're on the fast road to 10,000 posts, aren't you?
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 1:50:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Thx for the HTML ETH.

BTW, this guy seems very well outfitted for a rebel soldier.  Then again, the Tamils are a pretty sophisticated group.  They've taken on the Sri Lankan navy on the high seas & sunk some of their ships.  Also launched a raid a while back on an AFB that raped Sri Lankas attack jet capablities.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 1:53:04 PM EDT
[#4]
krinkov?
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 1:54:06 PM EDT
[#5]
Krinkov.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 1:59:50 PM EDT
[#6]
aks-74u, aka "krinkov". calibre 5.45x39 going by the smooth sided magazine. it may be a 5.56, but the mag looks incorrect.

it appears to have a lower handguard with integrated light or (laser unit?) which i have never seen before. definitely does not look like a "klystor" underbarrel grenade launcher. perhaps of local origin?
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 3:25:02 PM EDT
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it appears to have a lower handguard with integrated light or (laser unit?) which i have never seen before.
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I can't tell if that's on the gun or in the background.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 3:31:46 PM EDT
[#8]
AKsu-74. and i think it is a light. it looks like the rear of the forward pistol grip has a  push button for the light.

...I'll give him $200 hundred for it. [:)]


lib
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 3:36:43 PM EDT
[#9]
One that is not very effective out past pissing range?
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 3:55:50 PM EDT
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One that is not very effective out past pissing range?
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But would be a heck of a lot of fun to use.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 4:14:34 PM EDT
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One that is not very effective out past pissing range?
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But would be a heck of a lot of fun to use.
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IIRC, the Krinkov was originally designed for use much like the M1/M2 Carbine. Tank crews, arty units, etc. that would usually have another "primary" weapon until the fighting got up close and personal. Not designed for one shot one kill at 1000 metres, but rather dancing with the devil up close and personal.....

Scott

(EDITED CAUSE I CAN'T SPELL "ETC")

Link Posted: 4/11/2002 4:28:12 PM EDT
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it appears to have a lower handguard with integrated light or (laser unit?) which i have never seen before.
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I can't tell if that's on the gun or in the background.
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My bet is something in the background.
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 4:37:58 PM EDT
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"One that is not very effective out past pissing range?"

In my experience, tumbling of the 5.45x39mm round is induced with EXTREME ease when striking a target.  This mechanism seems to be reliable to velocities much lower than those required for fragmentation of of the 5.56x45mm.  I'd imagine this weapons be deadly to at least the "fragmentation range" of m-4's or other short barrel rifles (pissing distance weapons).  In addition, the 5.45 is optimized to a 16" barrel rather than a 20" like 5.56, so blast and flash are likely more tame than with a short barrel 5.56.  
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 5:02:38 PM EDT
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...I'll give him $200 hundred for it. [:)]
lib
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HA!  For the AK-74, 10 mags and a 1000rds of ammo.....I'll give him one camel!
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 5:28:14 PM EDT
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The caliber and range might be short, but I would still respect the weapon.  I don't think the Germans poked fun at the Russian PPSch-41 with its 7.62x25mm cartidge.  
Link Posted: 4/11/2002 5:30:10 PM EDT
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The caliber and range might be short, but I would still respect the weapon.  I don't think the Germans poked fun at the Russian PPSch-41 with its 7.62x25mm cartidge.  
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Not for long anyway, when facing it.....


Scott

Link Posted: 4/11/2002 8:48:16 PM EDT
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I'll throw in my two bits since nobody mentioned a couple of tidbits. Since HP is a no-no according to the Geneva Convention, different methods of enhancing wounding effectiveness have been developed. In this case, the 5.45 round has a cavity in the tip that collapses similiar to hp.

I recall an article that describes OBL's fashion statements. A krink is always in the photo's with him.
Link Posted: 4/12/2002 8:56:25 AM EDT
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I'll throw in my two bits since nobody mentioned a couple of tidbits. Since HP is a no-no according to the Geneva Convention, different methods of enhancing wounding effectiveness have been developed. In this case, the 5.45 round has a cavity in the tip that collapses similiar to hp.

I recall an article that describes OBL's fashion statements. A krink is always in the photo's with him.
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The cavity in the 5.45 PsS bullet doesnt collapse, rather it is almost filled by the moving mass inside the projectile. The instantaneous shift of balance due to this movement inside the projectile is what causes the wound pattern of the 5.45 PsS bullet.
Link Posted: 4/12/2002 8:48:51 PM EDT
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