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Posted: 3/13/2002 12:37:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2002 12:41:36 PM EDT by Maddog50]
Do we have any left-leaning liberals or authoritarians in the house? Take the "world's smallest political quiz": [url]http://www.lp.org/quiz/[/url]
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:43:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:44:54 PM EDT
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"Centrist: Centrists favor selective government intervention and emphasize practical solutions to current problems. They tend to keep an open mind on new issues. Many centrists feel that government serves as a check on excessive liberty."
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:45:12 PM EDT
I'm so right-wing I don't make left turns anymore.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:45:50 PM EDT
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Right-Wing Conservative Pro-Life Pro-Gun Pro-Free Speech Anti-Big Government You know, your average member of the vast right-wing conspiracy!
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:46:34 PM EDT
Libertarian
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:46:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/13/2002 12:48:25 PM EDT by Maddog50]
Originally Posted By lurker: Many centrists feel that government serves as a check on excessive liberty.
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"Excessive liberty" seems like an oxymoron to me. (Please don't bother with the "fire in a crowded theater" routine...)
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:47:38 PM EDT
Why would there be any liberas here?
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:51:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dale007: Why would there be any liberas here?
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If none of them will speak up... Left-Liberals prefer self-government in personal matters and central decision-making on economics. They want government to serve the disadvantaged in the name of fairness. Leftists tolerate social diversity, but work for economic equality. It seems to me that freedom in personal matters could include RKBA. Don't try to tell that to the democrats, though.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:53:25 PM EDT
I'm simply a libertarian Republican and have been ever since I was, oh, say ten years old. I was a supporter of Ronald Reagan's when he was still on Death Valley Days and a spokesman for General Electric. Eric The(Precocious)Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:54:24 PM EDT
Pro-individual rights. Period. Since no political party can say the same, I make no affiliation. -kill-9
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:55:55 PM EDT
I'm so right, I make three right turn to go left. [:D]
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:56:06 PM EDT
I'm an Independent myself,and I think the goverment in certan sectors needs reform! [b]Come for my guns......I'll give ya the bullets first!![/b][50]
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:57:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kill-9: Pro-individual rights. Period. Since no political party can say the same, I make no affiliation. -kill-9
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Does that mean you are a centrist? How did you score on the quiz? It seems to me that a person whose sole issue was individual liberty would likely score as a libertarian.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:57:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Maddog50:
Originally Posted By lurker: Many centrists feel that government serves as a check on excessive liberty.
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"Excessive liberty" seems like an oxymoron to me. (Please don't bother with the "fire in a crowded theater" routine...)
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i thought about commenting on that. when i was answering the questions i was thinking about pollution, open displays of racism and pornography. i think anarchy might be "excessive liberty". it's just not practical, ignores man's selfish nature.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:58:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dale007: Why would there be any liberas here?
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Because some of us have and love guns, too. Although not enough of us, it often seems.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 12:58:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U: I'm an Independent myself,and I think the goverment in certan sectors needs reform!
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I hear ya, man. But how did you score? De quiz! De quiz!
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:00:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By lurker: i thought about commenting on that. when i was answering the questions i was thinking about pollution, open displays of racism and pornography. i think anarchy might be "excessive liberty". it's just not practical, ignores man's selfish nature.
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That seems like a fair response.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:06:12 PM EDT
The poll indicated I was Centrist, which is probably true. My exact location on the chart was right on the border of centrist, Libertarian and Right Conservative.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:11:23 PM EDT
Pro Space Pro Gun Pro Freedom Pro Military Pro Science Pro Technology Anti Tax Morally against abortion, but am pro-choice, in my opionion the goverment has no right to make those kinds of moral judgements. I guess I am somewhere in between Republican and Anarchist.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:12:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Houston: The poll indicated I was Centrist, which is probably true. My exact location on the chart was right on the border of centrist, Libertarian and Right Conservative.
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Me, also.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:14:56 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Armed_Scientist: I guess I am somewhere in between Republican and Anarchist.
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Those weren't among the choices. Take the quiz!
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:15:02 PM EDT
My voter registration card says I'm a Republican. It lies. I was once a Republican, but I've evolved. Now I'm a Libertarian. I'm completely PRO-FREEDOM. I am for conservation of our natural resources, but I'm not militant about it. Simply don't WASTE them. I'm as pro-gun as you can get. I believe a government should be like a penis: Big enough to be useful when it's needed, and small enough to be unobtrusive and not noticed much at all other times. (Like that one? [:D] ) I believe in freedom of speech, and ALL the other issues mentioned in the other amendments. I believe that the only liberties that mean a damn are individual liberties. I believe in freedom of choice, even on the abortion issue. I believe that there are many people who should be candidates for retroactive abortion, as a matter of fact. I don't believe in imprisonment as a punishment for crimes. I do believe in mandatory capital punishment for capital crimes, being rape, arson, and murder, specifically. All other crimes should be punished by suitable corporal punishment, usually involving a bare back and a bullwhip. You take your punishment, it hurts like you never imagined, and you remember it for the rest of your life, and it leaves a mark. More strokes for more serious crimes. And then you're set free. A FAR better deterrent than the prospect of confinement with three meals a day and a bunk to sleep on, with TV. I believe that any person who can buy a house has a right to own any type of firearm to defend it and its contents. I often wonder what was written on that third tablet, the one that Moses dropped...? CJ
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:19:31 PM EDT
I didn't see my real category... Anarchist No, I don't want to destroy government. I just believe no government is better than any government. Let us look how well democracy is working for us in Winsconsin. Gives you a real warm feeling for "authority", doesn't it.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:20:49 PM EDT
I scored Libertarian 100%. I didn't need a test to tell me that.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:31:16 PM EDT
I usually score as a libertarian on those sorts of tests, but I consider myself more on the conservative side. They seem to make those tests in a way it's hard to actually get put on the conservative side. Oh well.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:34:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mr-T: I usually score as a libertarian on those sorts of tests, but I consider myself more on the conservative side. They seem to make those tests in a way it's hard to actually get put on the conservative side. Oh well.
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Come on, now.... ~60% of the people here score on the conservative side. Which questions do you think are unfair?
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:36:28 PM EDT
I have taken this little quiz before, and am mostly Libertarian. However, I disagree with the party platform on a few key issues. No party can contain me. Both Republicrats and Democans have lost touch with American ideals.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:41:13 PM EDT
I interested that so many people scored "conservative" on the LP test. It is nearly impossible to get anything but libertarian.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:49:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stubbs: I interested that so many people scored "conservative" on the LP test. It is nearly impossible to get anything but libertarian.
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It's not that complicated. There are 10 questions. Which of these 10 are unfair: Personal Issues 1. Military service should be voluntary. 2. Government should not control radio, TV, the press or the Internet. 3. Repeal regulations on sex for consenting adults. 4. Drug laws do more harm than good. Repeal them. 5. People should be free to come and go across borders; to live and work where they choose. Economic Issues 6. Businesses and farms should operate without govt. subsidies. 7. People are better off with free trade than with tariffs. 8. Minimum wage laws cause unemployment. Repeal them. 9. End taxes. Pay for services with user fees. 10. All foreign aid should be privately funded. This is not like the [url]http://www.a-human-right.com[/url] quiz you get when you choose "liability".
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:51:53 PM EDT
People accuse me of being Libertarian, but then again, people have accused me of a lot of things. I swear I didn't do the kitchen maid on the cafeteria counter! Not /that/ kitchen maid anyway. [}:D] I _did_ smile benevolent upon the efforts of the Lib party, even went to a "Bob Glass for Colorado Governor" rally, but realized that they have no concept, no esprit, plus one of the speakers pissed me off with her snide remark of "Will you be a good German when they take your neighbors away?!" I asked her about this, whereupon she replied "But that's just a remark! You know, a thing you say." - "Well, it's in the same league as calling my Mexican friends wetbacks, and I object to that!" - "But it's just a remark!" - "Well, whatever..." So, I guess I'd be more of a Heinleinist, if there was such a thing.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 1:57:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Maddog50: It's not that complicated. There are 10 questions. Which of these 10 are unfair: Personal Issues 1. Military service should be voluntary. 2. Government should not control radio, TV, the press or the Internet. 3. Repeal regulations on sex for consenting adults. 4. Drug laws do more harm than good. Repeal them. 5. People should be free to come and go across borders; to live and work where they choose. Economic Issues 6. Businesses and farms should operate without govt. subsidies. 7. People are better off with free trade than with tariffs. 8. Minimum wage laws cause unemployment. Repeal them. 9. End taxes. Pay for services with user fees. 10. All foreign aid should be privately funded. This is not like the [url]http://www.a-human-right.com[/url] quiz you get when you choose "liability".
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I don't think any of the questions are unfair, but I would say it's pretty simplistic. To be scored as a "Libertarian" you would put yes on most, as an "Authoritarian" you would put no on most. "Centrist" put a close number of yes and no, in both personal and economic, "Left" puts yes on the personal and no on the economic, and "Right" puts no on the personal and yes on the economic. I don't think it's very accurate to say that conservatives support most regulations on personal issues.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 2:09:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mr-T: I don't think it's very accurate to say that conservatives support most regulations on personal issues.
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Well, I think I'd differ with you on that. Conservatives in general favor: 1. The draft and compulsory military service 2. Censorship of morally objectionable material 3. Laws on sexuality, homosexual marriages, etc. 4. The war on drugs 5. Tougher immigration laws If you don't favor most regulations on personal issues, maybe you are not as conservative as you thought.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 2:15:04 PM EDT
I scored as a Libertarian. I must confess that I do not know enough about them to know if that is a correct placement or not. I am most comfortable thinking of myself as an involved citizen desiring a reduction in the size and scope of the federal government. At the same, I would like to see an increase in the powers of the state and local governments. The elimination of the IRS and federal income taxes would also need to happen, replaced by a flat tax or a use tax. Is there a political party that includes these ideals?
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 2:18:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wiggy762: The elimination of the IRS and federal income taxes would also need to happen, replaced by a flat tax or a use tax. Is there a political party that includes these ideals?
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The only party that I know of that openly adovates eliminating the IRS is LP.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 2:56:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Maddog50: Well, I think I'd differ with you on that. Conservatives in general favor: 1. The draft and compulsory military service 2. Censorship of morally objectionable material 3. Laws on sexuality, homosexual marriages, etc. 4. The war on drugs 5. Tougher immigration laws If you don't favor most regulations on personal issues, maybe you are not as conservative as you thought.
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Well, maybe you're right. But I still think ten questions is a little too little.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 3:05:00 PM EDT
None of your choices fit me: Declined to state.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 3:20:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By California_Kid: None of your choices fit me: Declined to state.
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You can decline to state, but those are the only possible results from that quiz. The question was "How did you score on the quiz?" and not "what do you think is the best label for your political ideology?" Or are you just embarrased to be scored as an authoritarian? [}:D]
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 4:13:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By cmjohnson: I believe a government should be like a penis: Big enough to be useful when it's needed, and small enough to be unobtrusive and not noticed much at all other times. (Like that one? [:D] )
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LMAO! [:D]
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 4:20:46 PM EDT
I scored as my card says, REPUBLICAN. Although the test really said I was on the cusp of Republican / Libertarian.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 4:23:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mr-T: But I still think ten questions is a little too little.
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It is. That test is run by the LP for a reason: to make 90+% of the people who take it score as a libertarian. I've given this test to many people, including very conservative folks, and they all score as a libertarain. This test's main reason for being is for recruitment.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 4:30:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stubbs:
Originally Posted By Mr-T: But I still think ten questions is a little too little.
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It is. That test is run by the LP for a reason: to make 90+% of the people who take it score as a libertarian. I've given this test to many people, including very conservative folks, and they all score as a libertarain. This test's main reason for being is for recruitment.
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If that's the case, then why is it that over 60% of the people who take it score as "not libertarian" despite the majority of visitors to the Libertarian Party homepage who skew those numbers towards "libertarian". So it's a short quiz. No one will refute that. Would a 100-question quiz be better for this purpose? How many of you would have taken the time to answer it?
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 4:31:52 PM EDT
Ok, who was the asshole who put down Liberal?? Show your sorry face!
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 4:33:16 PM EDT
How do they? I don't know. All I know is when I take the test, every time, I am a peaking Libertarian. When I take other political tests, usually ranging in the 50-100 question range, I consistantly score as a "Staunch Conservative".
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 4:38:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stubbs: How do they? I don't know. All I know is when I take the test, every time, I am a peaking Libertarian. When I take other political tests, usually ranging in the 50-100 question range, I consistantly score as a "Staunch Conservative".
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Which tests do you mean? Are they online somewhere? Perhaps you show up as "staunch conservative" because the quizzes you take do not include the second dimension in their scoring system. Conventional political thought is that you are either left (more government control for economic issues) or right (more government control for personal issues). Where does that leave those of us who want less government control, period?
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 4:53:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Flash66: Ok, who was the asshole who put down Liberal?? Show your sorry face!
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Be nice! Any liberal fighting for RKBA is OK in my book.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 5:26:30 PM EDT
Centrist, I am a social liberal, civil libertarian and a fiscal conservative. Pro gun rights, taxpayer rights & civil rights.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 5:32:18 PM EDT
Anarcho-Capitalist. But Libertarian is close enough.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 5:33:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Maddog50: Come on, now.... ~60% of the people here score on the conservative side. Which questions do you think are unfair?
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You forgot 'Commie' in your little poll. Give us 'Eastern Establishment Types' some credit.. Gib187th 'Love a 'Commie' for mommy'
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 6:19:06 PM EDT
I took the test and it said I was a libertarian, but I [b]strongly[/b] disagree with them on their stance on imigration, but I must confess that in the 04' elections, the first time I can vote, I will vote republican because I don't think that in the near term there will be any hope for a libetarian canidate. A vote for a 3rd or 4th party is a vote for a democrate. Vote Nader: Paid for by the commitee for the election of George Bush.
Link Posted: 3/13/2002 6:49:19 PM EDT
Pro-Freedom Pro-High Performance Gas Guzzlin' Hot Rods Pro-Loose Women [:D] Pro-Gun (I think everybody here is.....duh) I am no where near being 18. As a matter of fact I am double that age. But.... I can't understand if you are considered adult enough at age 18 to die for your country. Then why can't you enjoy the personal freedoms you are willing to die for? Handgun ownership, drinking age and other things that escape my feeble brain at this moment. Pro- smaller gov't We need a gov't, just not a real big one. We have the best one in the world but sometimes it abuses its people. More and better guns for the police to use against CRIMINALS and more and better guns for civilians to use against CRIMINALS. Crime will drop quickly. One more thing, this 3 strike law is bullshit. Anybody can make a mistake when they are young or maybe their emotions run amuck ONCE!!!! Anything more than that and they are just abusing the system. My solution [:D] After the second strike and they have done their time. Paint their foreheads with a big neon glow-in-the-dark L (for LOOOSSSEEEERRRR...)so we can see these idiots coming from a mile away. If they straighten their lives out and live clean for 10 years straight. Off comes the L and we put a small smiley [:D] face in its place (so we still know what they are capable of). I think I could run for office on this one idea...........
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