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Posted: 1/1/2002 6:08:31 AM EDT
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I agree with William. All of the people he named where a great help in getting me started in ARs. Maybe the site could cut them a deal (low cost advertising) so they can continue to post here. Be advised, I tell people where I saw there ads or where refered to them from. If these guys have to go to anothere site many people will follow.
Pardon pore grammer (public shcools and the spell checker arent working). R35 Your site, do what you wish. |
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Posted: 1/1/2002 1:26:41 PM EDT
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Hey guys (moderators) OK, you got my attention from nuking most of my threads. I'll talk deal, but you are going to have to get more reasonable on the advertising rates and structure another tier for the smaller niche sellers like those listed above. Yes, I now make a few bucks off the jigs, but probably not as much as you think. It started out as something I invented in my garage and people started offering to buy them from me. Not exactly your model for a dot-com mega-power but I guess if I net more than $500 a month, that is better than 95% of the dot-coms who were just flushing venture capital. Forums like you see here at AR15.com ought to be cheap or open for small inventors and test marketers to bring something to market or else all you will end up with are the same retail marketers you see in Shotgun News or at the gun shows. |
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Posted: 1/1/2002 6:16:14 PM EDT
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This is getting to be a bunch of B.S. We had a simmilar situation on the optics Forum. Some of us wanted a mount that did not exist, another member thought he could fabricate some prototypes. When he tried to charge a scant $35 for 3 units he wa booted. No way did $105 even come close to reimbursing him for his materials let alone his time and effort. This sucks.
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Posted: 1/1/2002 6:21:55 PM EDT
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Quoted: This is getting to be a bunch of B.S. We had a simmilar situation on the optics Forum. Some of us wanted a mount that did not exist, another member thought he could fabricate some prototypes. When he tried to charge a scant $35 for 3 units he wa booted. No way did $105 even come close to reimbursing him for his materials let alone his time and effort. This sucks. Agreed-I was into buying one of those mounts, but now where can we discuss them? Can we see what people will pay? Can we take advance orders, before we begin buying metal and cutting? What about the handguard removal tool? That began here too, and the guy who invented it was allowed to discuss it and then {gasp} sell it. Juggernaut |
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Posted: 1/1/2002 9:13:48 PM EDT
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JAGGERNAUT; What about the handguard removal tool? That began here too, and the guy who invented it was allowed to discuss it and then {gasp} sell it. WHEN HE POSTED THIS GREAT ITEM ON THE "BUILD IT YOURSELF" ( I BOUGHT ONE ) IT IS A GREAT ITEM THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT FITS THE "BUILD IT YOURSELF" FORUM, TO A TEE WILLIAM |
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Posted: 1/2/2002 12:18:58 PM EDT
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Guys the idea isn't to stop you from discussing and developing needed and wanted items.
It's also not to discourage your hard work from being sold to those who helped with input and knowledge. This is the generic run down of how things should work as I have mentioned to several people through email. [b] 1 - Ideas and questions are totally unhindered and should remain so. This means that you should be able to gather knowledge, share pictures, ask questions, etc. 2 - Gathering ideas of interest is acceptable as well. Asking who would be interested, thoughts on prices, etc. is all ok as well. As long as it's kept to knowledge gathering and sharing. 3 - Sales by "garage" smiths and very small starters should not be affected by the changes in policy. The restrictions are placed more on those who are making a number of sales on the EE or forums and not doing minimal or small sales. In other words, if you're doing this as a user and with a realistic number of posts/items for sale, then you can continue to do so. If you are doing a larger volume of sales through the site, then it's fair to ask that you help support it's continued success. 4 - Sales should ALL take place through the EE. Any sales or links to sales posted in any forum will be locked or removed to keep the forums clean. 5 - Advertising your sites, sales, etc will not be permitted on the site. If you wish to sell the items in the EE, then you may do so. [/b] The reason for the changes is simply because of the rising costs. I understand that the roots of many great projects have started here, and I do not want to take that away from you in the least, but you must also realize that for years we've managed to ask nothing from everyone here and shouldered the burden ourselves. All I ask from you is understanding and patience in order to work with us and not against us. There was a secondary support level added to the advertiser information, and I have no problem discussing either of those or perhaps something different. Please resort to EMAIL for discussions like this when possible. I understand that you may want to gather your supporters or make a show of force, but it's not necessary. I'm not against you, I am just ignorant to your needs as nobody has come to me with them. |
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Posted: 1/3/2002 12:35:48 AM EDT
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Goatboy, you have mail (again)
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Posted: 1/3/2002 2:04:01 PM EDT
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I apologize, but a number of pressing issues have come up and I will try to get back to everyone (especially this email) as soon as possible.
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Posted: 1/5/2002 3:31:51 PM EDT
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Guys, I read through the above, and I only see one "team member" responding. Now, I've only been around here a short time (thanksOSI),but have done 2 deals, one of which was a trade. I'm enough ahead of the game to more than pay for membership, which I did this morning (1/5/02).I have gotten more benefit from this site (because of the people here) than any other on the net.I sure don't mind ponying up a few bucks to keep this thing going......
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