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Quoted: Common sense would say yes But common sense is all the way gone for way more people than I ever thought possible. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This and mandating kids will cause more people to become "anti vax". Common sense would say yes But common sense is all the way gone for way more people than I ever thought possible. Common sense is gone for people who have bought into "The Lie". |
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It definitely didn't come from lab, it came from nature and it's very clear and the science says so. It's a conspiracy theory to say otherwise. No evidence that it came from a lab. We need to get everybody vaccinated so we can get herd immunity. HcQis literally harmful and nobody should take it, and Donald Trump just simply made it up out of his head and is hurting people because it's literally fishtank cleaner. The vaccine is 97% effectiveTM in massive perfect and honest studies. I can take my mask off now because the pandemic is over for me There are no unknowns at all about longterm effects because there were studies done about the vaccine. Please no one asks about longterm thingies with the flu jab and this is 1:1 like those. What are you Alex Jones lmao. It's the newest most High TechTM shot, that makes it the best silly. This works exactly like iphones. The vaccine is safe, it was simply ONE bad batch of the J&J shot, and literally only 6 people died from it. Look they've delivered a one trillion hundred fifty trillion doses by now, it's clearly only killed like 2 people and maybe 3 that you know personally, the provided numbers are honest, accurate, and Facebook agrees with me. No it can't give you real side effects, it's like the flu shot, don't you know how vaccine's work? Look maybe it killed your neighbor, but they were kind of heavy don't you know? Everybody knows someone who died from a flu shot, and we questioned if they were a jogger or not. Everyone knows that the vaccine is meant to protect healthy young joggers who are being targetted by this thing. Well of course we all knew the understanding was going to be that you were going to need at least 3 shots, why would you think that it was 1 or 2 shots for life and you were protected, they were telling us from the beginning that it was a seasonal booster subscription service, don't you know How Vaccine's work? Look ivermectin in literally only a horse paste that is literally only for horses and only for worms. Anyway, it's too hard to know anything about early treatments out since the 80s, but the science is settled on the vaccines. Of course big pharma would shutdown their money printer if they found out it was unsafe to old standards! Well of course vaccinated people can still get it, and transmit it, and die from it, and the immunity window is maybe more like 6 months ish, that was clear from the beginning. Don't you how vaccines work? Oh another person you know got hurt from it? Which jab did they get? There must be some exact wrong shot. Also, the CDC is now saying mix and match boosters are fine, c-cause they're different, and we have longterm/6-month booster studies even. |
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They are either absolutely fearless or straight up retarded. This will only strengthen the resistance.
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View Quote The title is correct in my case. |
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View Quote If that is coming from the Washington (com)Post then you know it's probably 10 times worse. |
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Quoted: Just a walk down memory lane: It definitely didn't come from lab, it came from nature and it's very clear and the science says so. It's a conspiracy theory to say otherwise. No evidence that it came from a lab. We need to get everybody vaccinated so we can get herd immunity. HcQis literally harmful and nobody should take it, and Donald Trump just simply made it up out of his head and is hurting people because it's literally fishtank cleaner. The vaccine is 97% effectiveTM in massive perfect and honest studies. I can take my mask off now because the pandemic is over for me There are no unknowns at all about longterm effects because there were studies done about the vaccine. Please no one asks about longterm thingies with the flu jab and this is 1:1 like those. What are you Alex Jones lmao. It's the newest most High TechTM shot, that makes it the best silly. This works exactly like iphones. The vaccine is safe, it was simply ONE bad batch of the J&J shot, and literally only 6 people died from it. Look they've delivered a one trillion hundred fifty trillion doses by now, it's clearly only killed like 2 people and maybe 3 that you know personally, the provided numbers are honest, accurate, and Facebook agrees with me. No it can't give you real side effects, it's like the flu shot, don't you know how vaccine's work? Look maybe it killed your neighbor, but they were kind of heavy don't you know? Everybody knows someone who died from a flu shot, and we questioned if they were a jogger or not. Everyone knows that the vaccine is meant to protect healthy young joggers who are being targetted by this thing. Well of course we all knew the understanding was going to be that you were going to need at least 3 shots, why would you think that it was 1 or 2 shots for life and you were protected, they were telling us from the beginning that it was a seasonal booster subscription service, don't you know How Vaccine's work? Look ivermectin in literally only a horse paste that is literally only for horses and only for worms. Anyway, it's too hard to know anything about early treatments out since the 80s, but the science is settled on the vaccines. Of course big pharma would shutdown their money printer if they found out it was unsafe to old standards! Well of course vaccinated people can still get it, and transmit it, and die from it, and the immunity window is maybe more like 6 months ish, that was clear from the beginning. Don't you how vaccines work? Oh another person you know got hurt from it? Which jab did they get? There must be some exact wrong shot. Also, the CDC is now saying mix and match boosters are fine, c-cause they're different, and we have longterm/6-month booster studies even. View Quote You know how I know you don't want your dog shot? |
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Lot of hyperbole here, but ending up with an annual shot would make it the same as the flu. I can't see the annual shot being a mandate though. I think it'll be like the flu shot where higher risk people generally get it and a lot of people don't bother.
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Quoted: Does this mean its working? recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data that N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination. Link Would you like to know more? View Quote If that "antigen original sin is true, it would be just as true for natural as vaccine immunity. An antigen is an antigen. |
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Quoted: recent observations from UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) surveillance data that N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination. View Quote In answer to your question, "what does this mean", there are four parts to the virus, spike, nucleocapsid, membrane and envelope. S antibodies target the spike, N antibodies target the nucleocapsid. N antibodies are ineffective because the nucleocapsid is encased inside the other components in a live virus so circulating antibodies cannot attach to it. S antibodies are neutralizing antibodies that effectively attach to and destroy the virus by latching on to the spike on the surface of the virus. Nevertheless if you get infected your immune system will generate antibodies to everything. Your immune system doesn't "know" what works, it just pulls the virus apart and builds antibodies to everything it can, including both the effective S antibodies, and the ineffective N antibodies. By the way, each part has multiple elements so in natural immunity you will get a variety of S antibodies, whereas the vaccine will generate specific S antibodies. This is why natural immunity is more resilient, you get a larger variety of S antibodies. Anyway, what the article is saying is that people who had existing S antibodies generate fewer N antibodies. Presumably this would be because the S antibodies effectively destroyed the virus and left less need and less opportunity to build the other ones. |
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Quoted: In answer to your question, "what does this mean", there are four parts to the virus, spike, nucleocapsid, membrane and envelope. S antibodies target the spike, N antibodies target the nucleocapsid. N antibodies are ineffective because the nucleocapsid is encased inside the other components in a live virus so circulating antibodies cannot attach to it. S antibodies are neutralizing antibodies that effectively attach to and destroy the virus by latching on to the spike on the surface of the virus. Nevertheless if you get infected your immune system will generate antibodies to everything. Your immune system doesn't "know" what works, it just pulls the virus apart and builds antibodies to everything it can, including both the effective S antibodies, and the ineffective N antibodies. By the way, each part has multiple elements so in natural immunity you will get a variety of S antibodies, whereas the vaccine will generate specific S antibodies. This is why natural immunity is more resilient, you get a larger variety of S antibodies. Anyway, what the article is saying is that people who had existing S antibodies generate fewer N antibodies. Presumably this would be because the S antibodies effectively destroyed the virus and left less need and less opportunity to build the other ones. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: In answer to your question, "what does this mean", there are four parts to the virus, spike, nucleocapsid, membrane and envelope. S antibodies target the spike, N antibodies target the nucleocapsid. N antibodies are ineffective because the nucleocapsid is encased inside the other components in a live virus so circulating antibodies cannot attach to it. S antibodies are neutralizing antibodies that effectively attach to and destroy the virus by latching on to the spike on the surface of the virus. Nevertheless if you get infected your immune system will generate antibodies to everything. Your immune system doesn't "know" what works, it just pulls the virus apart and builds antibodies to everything it can, including both the effective S antibodies, and the ineffective N antibodies. By the way, each part has multiple elements so in natural immunity you will get a variety of S antibodies, whereas the vaccine will generate specific S antibodies. This is why natural immunity is more resilient, you get a larger variety of S antibodies. Anyway, what the article is saying is that people who had existing S antibodies generate fewer N antibodies. Presumably this would be because the S antibodies effectively destroyed the virus and left less need and less opportunity to build the other ones. What the data is showing from weeks 38 onwards is that its possible and starting to show more and more is that the mass vaccination may have permanently fucked the population as a whole to COVID. N antibodies work fast compared to S as they are active. The vaccines only train the body to produce an antibody for S-1. S antibodies are not responsive to the virus but are reactive. Imagine the difference between a firefighter and a spotter. What we do know is that N antibodies are sterilizing, S are not. What the statement could show is that those vaccinated may not produce a strong N antibody response and reduce the immunity acquired from exposure to COVID. This could imply that the vaccines: Does not stop you from getting COVID Prevent you from getting full immunity If the immune system is suppressed hard enough it could render you non-sterilizing and create a carrier situation This phenomenon is well studied and its called Original antigenic sin Link Original antigenic sin, also known as antigenic imprinting or the Hoskins effect,[1] refers to the propensity of the body's immune system to preferentially utilize immunological memory based on a previous infection when a second slightly different version of that foreign pathogen (e.g. a virus or bacterium) is encountered. This leaves the immune system "trapped" by the first response it has made to each antigen, and unable to mount potentially more effective responses during subsequent infections. Antibodies or T-cells induced during infections with the first variant of the pathogen are subject to a form of original antigenic sin, termed repertoire freeze. The fact is, is that those who took the vaccine; their immune systems may be a one trick pony. We do know that the UK has a Delta version that has 2/3 mutations needed to escape containment. If the virus gets that 3rd mutation it could spell disaster for those that cannot produce or cannot produce enough N antibodies. This letter is very interesting: Serological markers of SARS-CoV-2 infection; anti-nucleocapsid antibody positivity may not be the ideal marker of natural infection in vaccinated individuals In the Week report Figure 2 was interesting as well. Age groups 40+ had double the COVID infections of vaccinated vs the unvaccinated. |
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Quoted: What the data is showing from weeks 38 onwards is that its possible and starting to show more and more is that the mass vaccination may have permanently fucked the population as a whole to COVID. N antibodies work fast compared to S as they are active. View Quote You will need to provide a reference to this claim that N antibodies are "sterilizing", it defies logic. The nucleocapsid is encased and not accessible to antibodies until after the virus has already been destroyed. |
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Quoted: In the Week report Figure 2 was interesting as well. Age groups 40+ had double the COVID infections of vaccinated vs the unvaccinated. View Quote Do you think that maybe, just maybe the kind of person who refuses to get vaccinated might just possibly maybe be the kind of person who also doesn't run out to get a COVID test every time they have a headache? You're reading the outcome you want to believe in whereas the data actually only says there are more positive test results in that group. What you can't explain with your preferred reading is why in the same data a few columns over it shows that the hospitalization rate is still way higher among the unvaxxed. Almost like they totally ignored it and dismissed it as nothing right up until they found themselves gasping for breath... |
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Quoted: Do you think that maybe, just maybe the kind of person who refuses to get vaccinated might just possibly maybe be the kind of person who also doesn't run out to get a COVID test every time they have a headache? You're reading the outcome you want to believe in whereas the data actually only says there are more positive test results in that group. What you can't explain with your preferred reading is why in the same data a few columns over it shows that the hospitalization rate is still way higher among the unvaxxed. Almost like they totally ignored it and dismissed it as nothing right up until they found themselves gasping for breath... View Quote What you can't explain is why you keep shilling for a "vaccine" that is brought to you by the same fucking people who created the virus. Fauci lied about what the NIH was involved with at the Wuhan lab, that is a proven fact. Yet, here you are, pushing the cure that the people who created the disease want you to take. Fucking tiresome. |
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Quoted: What you can't explain is why you keep shilling for a "vaccine" that is brought to you by the same fucking people who created the virus. Fauci lied about what the NIH was involved with at the Wuhan lab, that is a proven fact. Yet, here you are, pushing the cure that the people who created the disease want you to take. Fucking tiresome. View Quote Have a great Saturday night. |
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As long as sheep comply, they will keep changing the definition of “vaccinated” (it’s not a vaccine).
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Mandates are intended to inspire conflict.
Public relations 101. If you tell people they have to do something, 50% will tell you to fuck off. If your goal is maximum compliance, you convince them to do it of their own choosing. Some of the most outrageous vaccine theories are coming from the left to intentionally spread fear. It's not about the vaccine or virus. It's just a way to purge political dissidents from participating in society. Military, medicine, industry, etc... Do what you feel is right, but be conscious of what's really being foisted on this country. |
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Quoted: Mask from door to table King County is going to impose a vaccine card thing soon but it hasn't started yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: Yea it's a good thing covid knows when you're sitting at a table. View Quote I went to one place that was just jammed. They refused to let me sit and wait for a table in the lobby, had to wait outside, because of COVID, before they let me sit unmasked in the jammed restaurant once a table was ready. |
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Quoted: I went to one place that was just jammed. They refused to let me sit and wait for a table in the lobby, had to wait outside, because of COVID, before they let me sit unmasked in the jammed restaurant once a table was ready. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yea it's a good thing covid knows when you're sitting at a table. I went to one place that was just jammed. They refused to let me sit and wait for a table in the lobby, had to wait outside, because of COVID, before they let me sit unmasked in the jammed restaurant once a table was ready. |
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Quoted: The people who woke up at clotshot #8 and quit taking clotshots will be held responsible for this whole mess. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: what happens when some people get 4, 5,...16 shots behind? Unredeemable? 16 jabs at once? Workcamp? Death penalty? The people who woke up at clotshot #8 and quit taking clotshots will be held responsible for this whole mess. They will join the unjabbed in the camps. |
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Quoted: Maybe some, but probably not as many as you'd think. I posted the other day about a lady I work with. Had the "vaccines", then got COVID. So, now has natural immunity, right? A few short weeks later, she was first in line for her booster. She also can't wait to get her preteen daughter "vaccinated." I work in healthcare and am surrounded by people like this. However, there are still quite a few of us who haven't taken it. I've also heard a few others who took the first shots say they aren't doing it again. We'll see. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This and mandating kids will cause more people to become "anti vax". Maybe some, but probably not as many as you'd think. I posted the other day about a lady I work with. Had the "vaccines", then got COVID. So, now has natural immunity, right? A few short weeks later, she was first in line for her booster. She also can't wait to get her preteen daughter "vaccinated." I work in healthcare and am surrounded by people like this. However, there are still quite a few of us who haven't taken it. I've also heard a few others who took the first shots say they aren't doing it again. We'll see. I have a friend who was coerced into he first two shots out of pure fear due to media reporting. They flat out told their employer they weren’t getting anymore after their experience with he first two and seeing the virus isn’t what it was first reported as. I just hope all that immunity compromised and vax dependency reporting isn’t true for their sake, and everyone else’s. |
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Quoted: That all depends on your definition of "fix" I suppose. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Getting more and more of the same shit isn't going to fix this. That all depends on your definition of "fix" I suppose. Attached File |
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Quoted: The time frame will be every 6 months at first. They’ll back that off incrementally to get to your 90 day prediction I’m sure. View Quote It's going to be every month before it's done. It's not only a way to make Big Pharma richer than Midas, but imagine what the government can put into people on a whim. They now have the entire population as their experimental test bed. This is the Tuskegee and MK Ultra experiments on steroids. It's unthinkable that anyone is okay with this. No one has any idea what the long-term side effects of these toxic injections are, although I suspect the government knows they're bad. That's why they are so obsessed with rushing everyone to the needle. If there's a massive die-off or if the jabbed start getting really sick from the cocktail, everyone will get red-pilled. Especially when they go to sue and find out Big Pharma is legally immune from claims. Lol, nice little money machine they have going, yeah? |
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Quoted: If my kids got a lethal injection at school it would make world news. Guaranteed! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: They will vax the kids at school and you will only find out after the fact. If you complain, well the FBI will be at the board meeting. If my kids got a lethal injection at school it would make world news. Guaranteed! I actually already thought about this and will not be suprise if they try it in some places. |
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Quoted: Lol, move that goal post just a lil more. And you vaxers are eating all this bullshit up View Quote YOU SCIENCE HATING BIGGOT. All you have to do is |
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Quoted: Lot of hyperbole here, but ending up with an annual shot would make it the same as the flu. I can't see the annual shot being a mandate though. I think it'll be like the flu shot where higher risk people generally get it and a lot of people don't bother. View Quote Nothing else to say other than “you’re wrong.” If you don’t keep up with the boosters, you’re unvaccinated. This is not difficult to see. |
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