This is why my mat says "Go Away". (Thanks to Larry Corriea for making it known that the blanket "Welcome" mat is a bad idea.)

Been there, many times. That part of the state always gave me a creepy vibe, to be honest.



@robmkivseries70, I do - recently.

Case in point:

I've been increasingly worried about my mom and her level of activity (she's retired, will be 63 in July and walks probably 6-7 miles a day between taking the dog out, gardening, and general movement) for probably eight or so months now... this went on to the point where I'd get upset with her if she mowed her own grass or did anything more physically strenuous than walking without letting me know ahead of time when she was starting and when she was finishing up. If I was there, I insisted I help her by doing it for her instead. She's been increasingly abnormal in terms of how easily she'd get irritated, winded, etc.

Last Friday, she'd been complaining of having anxiety symptoms around 9am with no reason for them (all she'd done is get up and make a cup of coffee), so I pushed off work and forced her to go to the ER with me. Turns out she'd had a previous 100% blockage in an artery that had somehow broken up by itself, and was having an active heart attack at the time we arrived at the ER. Ended up being there for three more days and got two stents put in, in addition to her previous blockage.


Also, when I first got into real estate, I agreed to do an open house at this beautiful home up on a hill, right off the more deserted portion of a main highway that ran between the county I worked in and the one I lived in. The entire house was older, except for the kitchen, which was new and remodeled. The current owners had many strange figurines and a couple of skulls on display in odd places (bookshelves in the living room were one thing, but on the shelf in the closet?), which kinda creeped me out. I was there by myself and had been the "go-to guy" in the office for some of the newer female agents to take with them to showings/listing appointments as the owner of the brokerage knew I had been a cop for about four years, was 260+ pounds, and never went anywhere without a gun on me. I have to say, not much has truly scared me in the mortal world but I've had my fair share of things that happened in the shadows on night shift (I only spent six months total on day shift, spread out over years) that gave me the heebie jeebies but I've never been this uneasy being in a house in broad daylight in my life, and I never have been that uneasy since.

Outside, the house had a bit of a dreadful "tone" to it, if you will - kind of like you were being watched by something, somewhere, off by one of the outbuildings or in the treeline. At the time I attributed it to the property maintenance guy being on site and mowing/pressure washing, etc but even the interaction with him struck me as weird too. I stayed in the kitchen the entire time I was in that fucking place, and only went to the bedrooms to turn the lights on when I got there, turn them off when I left, and for the 15 minutes or so the one couple from up the road had come by to check out the house.

I texted a buddy of mine who works for the sheriff's office in the county where my brokerage is located (where I now live again, two years later) and made an off the wall remark about how absolutely fucking creepy it was being in there for four hours straight alone. He texted me back and the first thing he said was that the previous owner (not the seller, the one who owned the place before them) had blown her head off with a shotgun in the kitchen and that's why it was the only room that had been updated in the entire house.

Bump for a cool thread.  Tell your wife thanks for answering questions.

Never really had any experiences or seen anything other than when my grandma was on her death bed for about a week or so, one night I woke up in the middle of the night and had such a very very vivid dream of being in a campground and went to her camper and she said goodbye.  They were avid campers.  Then mid morning my mother called to say she had passed during the night.

Bump for updates OP

Hmmm . . .

I was reading a UFO thread here the other day and a poster said something about there being several dimensions and that we occupy more than one.

He (she?) also said our presence in the other(s) was eternal.

What might your wife say about that, OP?

It got me wondering if there may be a connection.


*Also said some other interesting things about nukes effecting the other dimensions, as well as our own. I thought it was an interesting concept.

@Former11BRAVO

All those interesting details and a link to the thread slipped your mind...

Took awhile to find it . . . Here ya go!

@t75fnaco3pwzhd

Sorry 'bout that.

@Former11BRAVO

Thank you. All is forgiven.

How many dimensions does really exist?

Beyond these three visible dimensions, scientists believe that there may be many more. In fact, the theoretical framework of Superstring Theory posits that the universe exists in ten different dimensions.

A Universe of 10 dimensions

Fascinating article.

I wonder if there are cross-over places or moments which would explain much of what we perceive as paranormal.

All this dimension talk....I loved the old TV show Sliders.    Be fun to see what the other 9 of me are doing.  God I hope one of me made it into the porn industry.  

Actually to account for free will there will be an infinite (or near depending upon your theology).

One can "shift" between dimensions/realities with traumatic experiences, trances (think Native American ceremonies) and deep deep dreams. Who knows where you end up after heavy dreamingI, dosing or drinking?

The "Doors of Perception" and all that.

Eta. Many religions and philosophies discuss this...8

I'll ask her tonight. The topic had never come up before.

Did you ask her, OP?

@hoboninja

I was discussing my question (above) with a friend of mine the other day.

He suggested I read "The Occult" by Colin Wilson, published (originally) in 1979.

My back doesn't allow me to read books for very long, as the posture triggers spasms, but I'm finding myself trying to work through the pain because the book is absolutely fascinating - and I'm not even through the introduction yet!

It's amazing that the author is basically describing String Theory - at least, that's how it's coming across to me - as he opines about molecules, atoms and DNA; the inherent (undeniable?) "programming" of living organisms and the construct of the known universe. The information is presented thus far, not as pseudo-science-mumbo-jumbo, but very intelligently and genuinely - with citations and an extensive bibliography. I can already recommend it myself.

On amazon




By the way, my friend holds Masters Degrees in both psychology and physics. My own father held a Doctorate +++ in physics and tried to explain to me (in layman's terms) concepts like quantum physics/realities, just as the author is discussing. Sadly, my dad died just as String Theory was gaining some interest/acceptance, but oh, how I wish I speak with him about it now!

Maybe, if the concept of multiple universes and an immortal consciousness is correct, I'll get to do that yet.

As a last thought; myself, my ex and my brother all separately knew the moment my father died. Impossible to describe; the way his spirit/presence "enveloped" me is something I'll never forget. It truly gives me hope that, no matter what Mankind does on/to this planet (ie: destroying freedom/prosperity), there may just be something far, far better to look forward to.

My mom had adult dementia . She passed coming up on 2 years now . The lastcouple of years that she was alive she would say that she saw some of her relatives who had passed before . Kinda spooky but she was good w it and it almost calmed her .

Idk if I could sense anything or not .

When her elder sister passed a year later ( she had the same alignment but worse ) my cousins said the same thing about her , that she could see her deceased relatives .

I believe they were welcoming them home . And in their state of mind they could see beyond what we are meant too .

Just my thoughts .

God Bless and Rip Mom .

Great thread!

 My FIL passed a few months ago.   He was in a accident and paralyzed from the waist down at 23.  He had been in that chair he pushed for over 50 years, he was 73 when he passed.     He was not religious really in any way. I believe because of the accident and the life he was handed, though he was a very kind and gentle guy and lived his life to the fullest.  Ran a business and helped put a lot of kids that f'ed up in life back in school and many later went to college.  

 When he passed, his wife was the only one allowed to see him due to the rona.  Before going, he kept telling my MIL  "that's a nice man standing there"  "He is so warm and kind he want's me to come with him, it's ok"    He said this several times, before he passed about an hour later.  

  Cool thing is, there was no one else in he room accept his wife.     RIP Frank!

Mine is in skilled Nursing for the same. Frequently she speaks of her Grandmother, however at this juncture I'm not sure its the recall of distant memories or something she's seen...given she doesn't say "she's here with us" I'm going for old memories.

To me as the the disease progresses they tend to become more child like, and the self placed or perhaps instructed Filters that are placed before us evaporate away, perhaps they CAN see what we will not.  Children are often admonished "it's you imagination" well did you ever stop to think that imagination had to originate and construct from something: where did the inexperienced child obtain such information?
Presumably we've all had wild/strange dreams from which there was no basis of reality, solved problems with solutions not from anything learned or observed....dying people very often indicate there are deceased people present in the days before their own demise and simply because WE cannot preceive them, must not be dismissed as fantasy.

@Former11BRAVO


She said she believes in heaven, hell, and purgatory. That's the only dimensions that she's aware of. She's hasn't given it any thought past that.

Thanks, OP.

And that's interesting. I never heard of (nor considered) Heaven, Hell and/or Purgatory being thought of as "dimensions".

She's catholic, so I guess that makes sense. Obviously no one knows, but she sort of believes that the dead people we all can see/hear are existing in purgatory.

Catholics are encouraged (and do) Pray for the Souls in Purgatory.
Dimensions, vibration levels, Eitherical planes of existence; I don't know if they're all the same with different names or completely different.

I suspect that "Life in the next World" is what your Life and Religion (or lack there of) made of it in this one... I believe Christianity, but dismiss the premise that all others are completely wrong and those observing them will be damned...a God that unequivocally Loves us would choose a small segment of believers over the multitude of the World.

Mom passed back in September and from around February until then she was seeing people as well.  But she also had lung issues where it would not expel all of the C02 and she was suffering from C02 poisoning. Basically makes you hallucinate all the time.

Obviously, from referencing various cultures, many people thought so.

Add me to your newsletter list, Sir.

out of curiosity, how does your wife like the BBC tv series "Ghosts"?  

The main female lead after a bump on the head can  see ghosts of people that stayed behind, while her boyfriend/husband can't.  I figure if you don't know about it, you might relate and enjoy the humor.

Are these "people" only visible or are they able affect you life either help or hinder?

@JThompson
Sometimes, it depends. The old school of thought says that some people have more innate ability or tendency to notice these things and also may be a catalyst for the phenomena. Thus, not everyone notices. I am slightly sensitive and got the S!@#$ scared out of me at age 10.  The short answer is "depending", on the type of Ghost. My favorite and oldest source is a book by Hans Holzer titled "Ghosts" It was available at book resellers for around $10.00 and is chock full of stories, some with historical research to go along with the material. A short answer is that "ghosts" may be a function of quantum mechanical effects and can affect our reality. hth

OK.- I am sure there will be a lot of hate here for me,

Well first and foremost let me say that I am a Christian. I believe that human souls go to Heaven or Hell once they pass from this world. Secondly, I do not believe animals have souls, if they did I would have to be a vegetarian. Thirdly I respect peoples beliefs, I am not calling anyone out or criticizing them base on how they feel or their faith. Fourth, I do not care if you believe me or not this my recount that I have never shared with anyone besides the people involved (my parents). Last, I am a bit in my cups, it has been a long week with a bunch of stress from work, vehicles and family.. so my few drinks has prompted me to share this.

This might be a little long to some people....

I had my first real(ish) girlfriend in 1988, I think I was in 8th grade, You know the type of girlfriend, where you transition between middle school and high school. The first girlfriend you get to second base with. Lets call her Jane. A bit of a side note my mother always labeled me as  empathic.  Even though Google translates it differently. To me that is someone that can read facial and body language.

Anyways Jane and I started talking about supernatural stuff late at night when we could use the phone line when our parents were in bed.  Her sister who was a year and a bit younger was dating my best friend (we still are), anyways sister “June” started to tell us about creepy noises in their apartment. Well me and Jane delved into stuff we should not have. We invoked challenges to things we were not capable nor responsible enough to handle.

I am in my late 40's now and I will never touch that again.

Back to the story, during a conversation over the phone with Jane, we were literally challenging this “spirit” to show itself. After all this “openness” I had a physical altercation with something unseen. I have to clarify here, it was actually physical. I thought I was “billy bad ass” back then. However, I screamed for my parents at 2 in the morning ( I did not do any drugs till I was past 20 and have not touched them after 25 except for booze). This thing pinned me to the wall in my bed room. It took both my parent to pull me off the wall (I was not hanging like in the movies). I was pinned, flat footed and crying like a baby.

Moral of my story whether you believe it or not, there is stuff out there that walks the earth. These things are not Godly, they influence evil. I fully believe these “things” are demonic, but rare, unless you invite them into you life, like I did so many years ago. Please don't play around with that.

My advice for those who have aberrations in their house, please pray and try to end your connection with them. I do not believe they are healthy for a human mind or a soul that is still in it's mortal body. If you are a saved Christian you can invoke Christ's name and command them to leave you. To me these things are not meant to be part of the living world...

Now lets let the laughing at me begin.


Oh this kind of a semi bump, I am half way through the post. I will read all of them.

 

This isn't GD. I doubt any one here will laugh at you.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure it was traumatic, especially at a young age.

While I am very likely the polar opposite of an empath, I have little doubt that spirits walk among us.

TY - at the time it was not a blessing... Now I wish I had more of it. Love/hate and Hate/love. Very hard to get along with people, but very easy to understand where they are coming from.

Not my thread... Sorry OP

that is very common for people that are near death

A good friend of mine tells of being pinned almost exactly as you were and when he called on Jesus for help "it" let him go. It's pretty interesting hearing almost identical experiences from 2 sources on opposite ends of the country.

Does it matter if their body was buried or cremated?
Do these dead people roam near where their body was buried or ashes scattered?
What if their body was buried or ashes scattered were done at sea?

I just ran across this video. I wonder if your wife is able to see what was making all of this commotion in this school?
https://youtu.be/mM3keCM9Ego?t=336
[youtube]mM3keCM9Ego?t=336[/YouTube]

@hoboninja

I too have seen the school video or one very similar, it's definitely creepy. I'm also interested in what can be seen.

Been busy, just saw this post. Too much overtime.

Anyway, I watched the video. Fuckin creepy. I'll definitely show it to her.

ETA @BIGGUNZZ

Right before the door opens at the dark end of the hallway, there's man-shaped shadow. It's just a dark outline of a person, and only appears for a split second. When he/it did the temper tantrum, he/it wasn't visible.

Never ascribe to the supernatural that which can be adequately explained by pranksters with high tensile fishing line.

I had thought of that, they still need to be out of camera range, which might be a bit harder.

Looks to be a fixed security camera. Might be tricky to set up a hoax like that without being seen doing so or conveniently having the camera not working prior to the event.

Was the school in use at the time? Would make early preps likely to be discovered. If the security recording can be viewed uninterrupted from the time of end of day dismissal until the events around 3am when few if any people were inside, that would make it harder to explain.
They have security cameras. Do they also have a security system that would preclude anyone unauthorized being present. If anyone is authorized to be there overnight, can their whereabouts be accounted for at the time of the event?

Creepy video, but lots of questions to be answered.

I think the Irish boarding school video is a hoax.  This explains it pretty well.

He does make some solid points.

He does, but starts the video with "Its a hoax and I can PROVE it" then doesn't "prove" anything. He presents opinion and points out odd things about the location of the lockers and supposed security camera placement. Makes conjunctions on how it could have been done, but no actual proof of anything.

I've been through most of this thread so i'm sorry if you already stated it. But can you talk a little bit about pets that hang around? How long do they stay around? Can she communicate with them, or they completely non-verbal like when they where alive? And did your best friend ever come and visit you?

Both my wives have claimed this ability. I just smile and nod.

Although my present wife has never said she has seen my dead wife. Strange, they were really good friends.

My daughter has never claimed any 'special' abilities, thankfully.

@hoboninja


Is there a rough century/year period your wife is able to see  and/or hears back too?   Going back in time language shifts, so even speaking the same "English" can become like two different languages given enough time for shifting pronunciations and various words that come and go from fashionable vocabular lexicons.. Not counting regional accents and/or 1st generation immigrates accents from their native tongue. Compounding that issue.

The reason why I was wondering about this,
I was watching one of the paranormal shows, where they were trying to get evidence of activity from   a section of old railroad built (early 1800's-ish) by early Chinese Immigrates. This was a section that lot of deaths occurred during (yellow fever(?) and other saftey issues) the building of the railroad.   Being cheap labor and the lack of ability to store bodies for transport,  they were buried somewhere near by but the  graves are lost to time and history.   What I thought was how would these investigating people know if the spirits were talking in Chinese?   None seemed to try to ask questions in the deceased's  native tongue, which made me think about how language shifts over time. As it was near the west coast , Spanish might have also been in there as possible in-between language.  With some immigrant workers speaking better English than others today and bringing their friends to work and then translating the boss's orders.....  Which is what I've seen with some immigrant work crews were they don't all speak good English but someone that speaks it more fluently acts the lead person for the group.

With how much English has changed in its own dialect of "American English" not taking into affect that  British English and/or any other country's English versions have equally grammatical shifts over time.  With the USA being a young country(than say England), then the inhabitants speaking different Native American tribal languages, that would just be noise to the untrained ear. I hope that makes sense what I'm trying to figure out and ask.  Now if spirits learn the local language as times goes on, that would be a different question, do the dead keep on learning from the world around them?

Within  this I know there are things far older than man roaming  the earth and things that fall well into "other  creature" for shortness of  descriptive length, that speaking a language might not be on the table for communication.

I'm not counting those in the question about is there rough historical age that she is able to see and hear  people from?  Understanding that North Eastern populations were  less sparse for density and historic preserved cities and neighborhoods would have more items that they might anchor spirits to.  I also assume any major historical place is already magnetic from all the various people trying to contact the deceased,spirits and whatever else there.  So would they   tend to have more hanging around there ?    I'm guessing that is what makes some spots more active as both sides are trying to use it, to communicate to the other.  Sorry that digressed into 3 questions,  I'm wondering about age for the oldest, have experienced older but  were fairly recent if you use the USA 's 200+ years of existence  as a gauge.

Is she going to watch the premiere of GHOSTS tonight?

I'm looking forward to it. Looks funny.

@OhioEd

That is the CBS version, there is also the original from the BBC . Which has more of the British dry wit humor,  where the ghosts span longer from older  different time periods and hit their typical tropes archetypes of  British characters . Which the BBC version  has 3 seasons already, but only has 6 episode per season/year as many of BBC mini-shows do. Although the 3rd season had an extra 7th "Christmas episode".

The American  characters are pretty much copies of British ones  with minor adjustments for USA history and the shorter time as  a country. The two shows are very similar so far 4 episodes in for running plot points. THE CBS one does have more "ghosts" characters than the British version. I'm counting all the basement ghost as 1  in both series. As it is too hard to identify them all and so far they have been treated as collective group, that stays separate from the main house ghosts in both series. I'll give CBS props for having the viking in there as nod to the fact vikings were here in the USA early than we think. Although he replaces  the caveman  idiot savant .

I hope you, hoboninja and Mrs. hoboninja watch and like both shows. While being a re-imaging version, the American remake does bring slightly different cultural humor that gives each its own flavor of comedy.