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Posted: 1/4/2006 9:51:03 AM EDT
I was checking out the census.gov website and by their estimates some southern and midwest states are growing alot faster in population than the New England or Left Coast states. This could be a good thing because if there is enough change states like New York and Massachusetts could lose House seats while states like Georgia and Texas could gain House seats. Anybody else looking forward to the next census ?

For instance between 2000 and 2010:

- New York and Massachusetts are projected to remain somewhat stagnant, maybe with a population growth around 1%
- Texas will grow in population by 15-20%
- Georgia will grow in population by 25%

Those stats are just from glancing at the information displayed here:
www.census.gov/popest/states/tables/NST-EST2005-01.csv
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 9:56:11 AM EDT
Great topic. Tagged.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 10:07:21 AM EDT
Yes there growing.. But the majority of it is from Illegals.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 10:18:43 AM EDT
I was going to say....do mexicans like guns?

Also, a lot of the southern population boom is from New Englanders moving south.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 10:25:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2006 10:26:23 AM EDT by opie69]
just a quick manipulation of the numbers reveals that the growth rate is like this, in percent

between 2000 and 2005
United States 5.33
.Alabama 2.49
.Alaska 5.86
.Arizona 15.76
.Arkansas 3.96
.California 6.67
.Colorado 8.46
.Connecticut 3.08
.Delaware 7.65
.District of Columbia -3.76
.Florida 11.31
.Georgia 10.82
.Hawaii 5.25
.Idaho 10.44
.Illinois 2.77
.Indiana 3.15
.Iowa 1.37
.Kansas 2.09
.Kentucky 3.26
.Louisiana 1.22
.Maine 3.65
.Maryland 5.74
.Massachusetts 0.78
.Michigan 1.84
.Minnesota 4.34
.Mississippi 2.69
.Missouri 3.67
.Montana 3.71
.Nebraska 2.78
.Nevada 20.85
.New Hampshire 6.00
.New Jersey 3.61
.New Mexico 6.01
.New York 1.47
.North Carolina 7.88
.North Dakota -0.86
.Ohio 0.98
.Oklahoma 2.82
.Oregon 6.42
.Pennsylvania 1.21
.Rhode Island 2.66
.South Carolina 6.06
.South Dakota 2.79
.Tennessee 4.81
.Texas 9.63
.Utah 10.59
.Vermont 2.34
.Virginia 6.91
.Washington 6.68
.West Virginia 0.47
.Wisconsin 3.22
.Wyoming 3.14

but i could be wrong on my math, dunno
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 10:35:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Yes there growing.. But the majority of it is from Illegals.



Yeah. That's the problem.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 10:42:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tax_monster:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Yes there growing.. But the majority of it is from Illegals.



Yeah. That's the problem.



Well if the census counts illegals and they don't vote in elections then that could be a good thing. I would rather Texas and Georgia take seats away from New York and Massachusetts regardless of where the population increase comes from.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 10:50:17 AM EDT
That news/figures might be a bit outdated.


Editorial: Census figures cause for concern
Wednesday, January 4, 2006

New Census estimates showing Massachusetts has lost population for the second year in a row constitute bad news on several fronts.
The most important is economic, since experts believe those who are leaving -- the educated young, leaving in search of jobs and more affordable housing -- are exactly the kind of workers Massachusetts needs most to hold onto. The second impact is political. The Census bureau's mid-decade population estimate shows definitively that the American political center of gravity has shifted to the South and West. Those states are now as politically dominant as the Northeast and Midwest were in 1940.

That trend will accelerate when the 435 House seats are reapportioned after the full decennial census in 2010. Massachusetts is expected to lose one of its 10 House seats. Texas and Florida are expected to gain three seats each. Nevada, Arizona and Utah are likely to gain a seat. New York and Ohio are likely to lose two each, while Iowa and Pennsylvania all lose at least one.

More here...
www2.townonline.com/pembro/opinion/view.bg?articleid=400365
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 11:01:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LoginName:
That news/figures might be a bit outdated.


Editorial: Census figures cause for concern
Wednesday, January 4, 2006

New Census estimates showing Massachusetts has lost population for the second year in a row constitute bad news on several fronts.
The most important is economic, since experts believe those who are leaving -- the educated young, leaving in search of jobs and more affordable housing -- are exactly the kind of workers Massachusetts needs most to hold onto. The second impact is political. The Census bureau's mid-decade population estimate shows definitively that the American political center of gravity has shifted to the South and West. Those states are now as politically dominant as the Northeast and Midwest were in 1940.

That trend will accelerate when the 435 House seats are reapportioned after the full decennial census in 2010. Massachusetts is expected to lose one of its 10 House seats. Texas and Florida are expected to gain three seats each. Nevada, Arizona and Utah are likely to gain a seat. New York and Ohio are likely to lose two each, while Iowa and Pennsylvania all lose at least one.

More here...
www2.townonline.com/pembro/opinion/view.bg?articleid=400365



I just hope that those states that will be gaining seats in the HoR (and therefore electoral college votes) remain red.

I bet another reason for the population shift is that those down south and out west are more, um, "productive" (if you know what I mean) than their Northeastern counterparts.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 11:09:28 AM EDT
A 10% decline in PA would be pretty nice.. especially around the S.E and Pocono regions
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 11:15:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bob243:
A 10% decline in PA would be pretty nice.. especially around the S.E and Pocono regions



I'd like to see a 20 to 30% decline in my area also, but politicians seem to think we have unlimited space and the room for more. That is until people complain about sprawl and congestion, then the .gov wants to enforce zoning and public transportation.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 2:04:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By opie69:
just a quick manipulation of the numbers reveals that the growth rate is like this, in percent

between 2000 and 2005
United States 5.33
.Alabama 2.49
<SNIP>
.Wyoming 3.14

but i could be wrong on my math, dunno



Your math is about right for that five year span between '00-05, now pretty much double those percentages and that is what the growth will be roughly like between 2000 and 2010 if those trends continue.

At the rate Florida is going sooner or later South and Central Florida will be infiltrated by enough northern transplants to shift the political power over to the Dems and the remaining rural people in North Florida will be at their mercy, like the rural Californians being ruled by San Francisco and the LA area. I've pretty much decided to retreat to Alabama in that case
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