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Posted: 11/23/2005 10:13:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/16/2006 10:39:38 AM EDT by CITADELGRAD87]
Self explanatory.

Jakson-capable of making great action/fantasy fare.

Kong-very cool story line

CGI/Effects-- Now fully vcapable of making anything "real." Dinos vs giant gorilla!

But still, is it even possible for it to be a good movie?

edit/update.

Saw the 2100 show last night.

today's a work day and I am GLAD I saw it.

Very well done, there's a lot of potential suck when you consider Jackson's job was to convey love between an animal and a human without any dialogue on the part of the animal. Lots of scenes where nothing at all was said, but the emotions were speaking volumes, all without being over the top.

Link Posted: 11/23/2005 10:15:08 AM EDT
It's a modern remake, of course it will suck.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 10:22:49 AM EDT
I firmly believe it will suck King Kong size balls.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 10:28:27 AM EDT
It will redefine sucking so as to make slutty college chicks everywhere jealous.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 10:50:34 AM EDT
Damn.

I had a weak moment and allowed myself to look forward to its release.

But I think I can HEAR it now, it sucks so bad.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 11:29:38 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 11:33:27 AM EDT
One word:

Godzilla.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 12:19:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/23/2005 12:19:52 PM EDT by ProfessorEvil]

Originally Posted By DigDug:
One word:

Godzilla.



GODZIRRAAA!!!!!

Link Posted: 11/23/2005 12:22:11 PM EDT
Its gonna suck a fat one.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 12:29:06 PM EDT
I'll probably go see it; if only to see the special effects on the big screen. I'm not expecting much more from it.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 12:36:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wombat_SCSO:
I'll probably go see it; if only to see the special effects on the big screen. I'm not expecting much more from it.



That sounds like a Jurasic Park review.
Link Posted: 11/23/2005 5:39:08 PM EDT
I think it will be good.
Link Posted: 11/24/2005 6:22:57 AM EDT
I don't think it'll suck as bad as Aeon Flux... but I've been wrong(ed) before.

Kong has been done enough times that I could give a rats ass about seeing it again. Next thing you know they'll remake Bram Stoker's Dracula... again.

It'd be nice to see Jackson use his director powers to make a movie that hasn't been done before. I vote for The Necroscope books. And I'll continue to say that until it's done.
Link Posted: 11/24/2005 5:11:40 PM EDT
I think it will be decent
Im a sucker for airplanes and tracers anyway so that few minutes will be pretty much worth it for me
Link Posted: 11/24/2005 5:14:52 PM EDT
Suggest poll. I vote it blows, sucks would be selling it short.
Link Posted: 11/24/2005 6:12:12 PM EDT
movies with more than 98% CGI irritate me
Link Posted: 11/24/2005 10:30:20 PM EDT
Seen the first preview, looks like its gonna suck worse then thought
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 3:14:15 AM EDT
It's going to suck even worse than that. In fact, the suckage will even be low-grade suckage.

If you like to suck, see this movie. Other than the traditional hot blonde, the suckage is strong with this one.
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 3:21:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gks452:
It's a modern remake, of course it will suck.



+1
everyone has run out of new ideas!
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 9:37:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RED_5:
everyone has run out of new ideas!



+1... because I can't think of anything original to write.
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 9:48:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By RED_5:

Originally Posted By gks452:
It's a modern remake, of course it will suck.



+1
everyone has run out of new ideas!



I was thinking about this the other day. Hollywood today is an absolute wasteland of ideas. They couldn't come up with an original idea if their lives depended on it. It's the same old trash coming out or live action comics or remakes. Hollywood is nothing more then a steaming pile of fecal groupthink.
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 9:51:47 AM EDT
If it doesn't suck I'll be suprised, but I'm going to see this one b/c the son asked to. Jackson has a good eye, maybe he'll pull it off. I'm just not sold on CGI characters though.
Link Posted: 11/25/2005 3:53:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ProfessorEvil:
It will redefine sucking so as to make slutty college chicks everywhere jealous.



You SOB!!! I was laughing so hard on this one line that I woke my wife up. Now I'm in deep poo-poo! Thanks a lot!!!


Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:40:18 AM EDT
I've only seen one trailer, when I went to see "Harry Potter.."

I thought it looked okay, if I don't go to the theatre I'll definatly rent it.

And when Kong reached up and ripped the wings off the fighter I let out "OH Yeah! Get some!" Ooops...forgot I was sitting in a crowded theatre.

I did like that they went period with it rather than with a modern time frame.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 3:21:46 PM EDT
I never liked the King Kong story. Damn Jackson for not making The Hobbit.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 3:21:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 4:52:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wombat_SCSO:
I'll probably go see it; if only to see the special effects on the big screen. I'm not expecting much more from it.



That's what I'm thinking.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:49:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2005 6:50:21 PM EDT by OBird]

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:
I don't think it'll suck as bad as Aeon Flux... but I've been wrong(ed) before.

Kong has been done enough times that I could give a rats ass about seeing it again. Next thing you know they'll remake Bram Stoker's Dracula... again.

It'd be nice to see Jackson use his director powers to make a movie that hasn't been done before. I vote for The Necroscope books. And I'll continue to say that until it's done.



Is it just me, or do the previews suggest that Aeon Flux will take movie-suckiness to a whole new level? It just looks so retarded, I get pissed off just having the commercials for it being on my TV.


And yes, KK will be lame-tastic without a doubt.
Link Posted: 11/28/2005 12:16:59 AM EDT
Since I knew what it was three seconds into the preview (new york, apple cart), I think I will like it. A remake of the original original, keeping true to it, should be pretty cool. Its just a movie guys, everything can't be Braveheart, Gladiator, or Heat.
Link Posted: 11/28/2005 5:44:13 AM EDT

I'm looking forward to it.

Thompsons! Dinosaurs! Biplanes! Gorilla vs T-rex! What's not to like?

Link Posted: 11/28/2005 8:16:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:
I never liked the King Kong story. Damn Jackson for not making The Hobbit.



Now that he's done with King Kong, I sure hope he goes back to do the Hobbit. Please let it be true.
Link Posted: 11/28/2005 4:33:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OBird:
Is it just me, or do the previews suggest that Aeon Flux will take movie-suckiness to a whole new level? It just looks so retarded, I get pissed off just having the commercials for it being on my TV.



I don't think there's any way to make that cartoon into a live-action movie without people walking out saying "WTF did I just watch?"

It was one of the few reasons I watched MTV (Liquid Television). I don't see them trying to make "The Head" into a movie... yet.
Link Posted: 11/29/2005 7:09:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:

I don't see them trying to make "The Head" into a movie... yet.


I could see it , probably be more understandable ot masses than Aeon Flux
The more llonger trailers i see for King Kong looks pretty decent
Link Posted: 11/30/2005 5:22:43 AM EDT
I love the original King Kong so much I can't not see this film.

I'm hoping they don't fuck it up. But I saw previews on Leno where Kong is taking on 3 T Rex's and kicking their ass like it's a Shaw Bros. movie.

Very dissapointing.

If nothing else, at least this remake caused the DVD release of the most "intact" version of King Kong (1933) known to exist. Van Helsing did the same thing for the DVD release of most of the Universal Horror movies from the 1930s and it was pretty terrible as far as movies go.
Link Posted: 11/30/2005 5:25:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:
I never liked the King Kong story. Damn Jackson for not making The Hobbit.



The funny thing is in many ways it's a true story. And one of the best films ever made.
Link Posted: 11/30/2005 5:33:48 AM EDT
I read an article the other day explaining the physical appearance of the new Kong.

Bit of a pot belly, hair sorta mottled, bare patches, scars, etc....

This is to symbolize that he is an older primate, the rugged existence of Kong, his many battles to survive, etc....

He has lived like a wild animal (he is wild after all) and finds a female homo-sapien (sp?) that sort of melts his rough exterior.

Reminds me of "Pretty Woman" in a way.


Link Posted: 11/30/2005 5:39:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Hellhound:
Reminds me of "Pretty Woman" in a way.

Why did you have to remind us all of the existence of that movie. What a steaming pile of ...
Link Posted: 11/30/2005 5:51:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By vito113:
Does the Monkey die?

ANdy



No. They move him to better living conditions and give him a $2,000 dollar Red Cross debit card for bananas and other shit.

Link Posted: 12/2/2005 5:20:06 AM EDT
Sorry about the Pretty Woman reference above, I hate that fuggin' movie.

Anyway, found a review from a British on line mag on the KK movie.

Warning, may be some spoilers. But then again EVERYONE knows how it ends. There are some descriptions of action scenes that sound kinda interesting.

www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/bazbamigboye.html?in_article_id=370370&in_page_id=1794&in_a_source=

This gorilla of a film is blockbuster of the year
by BAZ BAMIGBOYE, Daily Mail

09:45am 2nd December 2005

Just over a year ago, Oscar-winning film-maker Peter Jackson stood on the mammoth Skull Island set he had built on a peninsula in New Zealand and told me why he loved King Kong.
Speaking about Merian Cooper's classic 1933 movie, Jackson said: "The original Kong is a wonderful blend - probably the most perfect blend - of escapism and adventure, mystery and romance. It does everything an escapist movie should do: it takes you places you are never going to see and gives you experiences you are never going to have."

Jackson's words came back to me as I sat in the back row at the Loews Cinema complex on New York's West 68th Street this week, watching the first screening of his new version of Kong.

He may not have known it at the time, but Jackson could just as well have been talking about his own extraordinary remake of the movie that inspired him to become a director when he saw it one Friday night on TV when he was just nine years old.

The very next morning, Jackson started creating stop-motion films using Plasticine.

This time round, the director had some much bigger toys - 21st-century humdingers - to play with.

And he has made a picture I can only describe as jaw-droppingly brilliant: the most entertaining blockbuster movie this year.

But all this monkey business wouldn't amount to a hill of beans if the movie didn't have a heart, and boy, does it.

Kong's the last of his race. He has withdrawn into himself, and the occasional sacrificial native (he plays with them for a while and then tosses them away like chicken wings) is merely a distraction from the pain of his lonely life.

Then along comes beauty, in the shape of Ann Darrow, a Depression-era vaudeville performer living on the breadline, who lands a role in a madcap director's fantasy feature.

Ann, as played by Naomi Watts, is pretty weary herself. And somehow, the great ape and the lovely, lost woman recognise they are kindred spirits under the skin. Or, in his case, fur.

There's a beautiful moment with Kong sitting on top of a mountain, Ann in the palm of his hand, both watching the sunset. I actually heard one tough broad of a movie executive sobbing. Jackson evokes such a sense of empathy for his beast that Kleenex should be sold along with the popcorn. OH, PUHLEASE!!!!

King Kong truly is an 8,000lb gorilla of a movie. I'm still marvelling at a scene where a herd of brachiosaurus stampede as they are pursued by predators with teeth the size of carving knives.

Then, just when you think such a sequence can't be topped, Kong pounds to rescue his damsel in distress when some hungry velociraptors mistake her for a snack.

An almighty battle ensues and it's at this point Kong goes from super monster to super hero in Ann's eyes.

Jack Black, who plays preening, self-promoting movie maker Carl Denham, told me that, in the original movie, his character was older and more of a "kick-ass action hero".

"This Denham is darker," he says.

"He has an obsession with accomplishment. He's got insecurities and has this fear of not accomplishing something great before he dies.

"Fran Walsh [Jackson's life partner] told me my Denham has to have a little bit of Willy Loman from Death Of A Salesman to him. There's fear and arousal on my part. Certainly that's what Denham is feeling when he captures Kong on Skull Island."

Jack tells me all children - "at least all boys" - love King Kong.

"He is the king of all the monsters, even better than Godzilla. Kong is stronger and smarter than Godzilla, who's just a stupid, slimy lizard."

He was referring to the original Kong and the gormless 1976 remake with Jessica Lange.

But I think Jackson's version, which he wrote with Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens (the trio also adapted The Lord Of The Rings for the screen), is accessible to all.

I don't know what the rating in the UK will be for the film - which also features Jamie Bell, Adrien Brody, Thomas Kretschmann, Kyle Chandler and Colin Hanks - when it opens in the UK on December 15. (It will have its London gala next Thursday, December 8.) But it might be a bit much for tiny tots.

As I write this, I'm getting shivers thinking of the moment when Andy Serkis - who plays a double role, but more of that later, as they say - encounters a giant insect that extends itself horribly and slurps him down head first.

It terrified me, but then I'm the guy who, years ago, ran from a Manhattan apartment I'd rented because there were cockroaches in the oven. Forget roaches - the bugs in this movie are the size of Agas.

Serkis was at the screening, along with most of the cast. The Londonbased actor told me the final version had only been wrapped up this Monday.

Andy's two roles are that of ship's cook (his speciality is porridge al la walnuts) - and Kong.

He went to Rwanda for a few weeks to study the gorillas - in particular, to observe how they moved and communicated with each other.

Jackson had Andy act out Kong's role and then digitalised it, using the same technique employed with Gollum in the Lord Of The Rings films. Richard Taylor, Jackson's long-time technical collaborator, explained: "Today, as an audience, we crave an emotional relationship, so we used Andy to drive Kong. To make him convey the toughness of this giant silverback, but also to give a sense of empathy.

"In Lord Of The Rings, we used an orange ball to denote something the actors would be acting to, and we added the special effects later. Here, we used Andy or a series of sculptures of Kong's face."

The Kong busts took a long time to make. Just punching in the 40,000 yak hairs took three-andahalf weeks for each one.

Monday will be the world premiere of King Kong, with cinemas around New York's Times Square showing the movie.

Some critics will carp about its length - three hours - but for me, the time sped by.

Jackson opens his movie with Al Jolson singing I'm Sitting On Top Of The World. And that's where the director is - with the competition far, far below.
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 5:30:24 PM EDT
I was reading a Kong thread on HTF and this movie sounds like a home run. I am really looking forward to this film. This is going to be the big film of the year I think. Cant wait.
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 5:33:56 PM EDT
Do you even have to ask?
Link Posted: 12/2/2005 5:42:31 PM EDT
I think it will be good. Jack Black has shown himself to be a pretty good actor (IMO), I don't think he would put his name in a dud.
Link Posted: 12/4/2005 4:34:49 PM EDT
It's getting superlative reviews. And check this out:


Once we hit Skull Island everything changes. Jackson picks up his own movie and spins it wildly into a visceral frenzy of hyperkinetic action — one that simply refuses to stop. There are killer zombies, gunfights, random executions, and human sacrifices aplenty.


I might have to see it after all.
Link Posted: 12/5/2005 1:25:17 PM EDT
I'm looking forward to it.
Will it suck? It's a peter jackson film, come on.

Link Posted: 12/5/2005 1:38:25 PM EDT
If Jackson weren't involved, I wouldn't even give this film a passing thought.



But he has given me enough hours of pure, unadulterated, take-me-back-to-when-I-first-read-Tolkien-as-a-child enjoyment over the last few years that I feel he has earned the benefit of the doubt from me for at least his next two or three movies!

As always, YMMV.
Link Posted: 12/6/2005 4:38:26 PM EDT
More reviews are coming in, I think this is going to be huge.

Rotten Tomatoes
Link Posted: 12/6/2005 5:13:13 PM EDT
despite the skeptics it 1 it is 1 of the few movies I'll watch at the movies, God willing I'm really looking forward to it.
Link Posted: 12/10/2005 7:17:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:
I'm looking forward to it.
Will it suck? It's a peter jackson film, come on.





Have you ever tried watching Meet the Feebles? I couldn't get past the first ten minutes. Imagine

rat puppets making a pornon between a cow and a roach.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:40:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By raven:
I never liked the King Kong story. Damn Jackson for not making The Hobbit.



The funny thing is in many ways it's a true story. And one of the best films ever made.



ehh?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:03:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MauserMark:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By raven:
I never liked the King Kong story. Damn Jackson for not making The Hobbit.



The funny thing is in many ways it's a true story. And one of the best films ever made.



ehh?



Oh, what, like you didn't know about that giant gorilla that was loose in NYC... or the island with the dinosaurs on it? Didn't you watch CNN this morning? It's all they talk about.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:38:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pathfinder74:

Originally Posted By MauserMark:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By raven:
I never liked the King Kong story. Damn Jackson for not making The Hobbit.



The funny thing is in many ways it's a true story. And one of the best films ever made.



ehh?



Oh, what, like you didn't know about that giant gorilla that was loose in NYC... or the island with the dinosaurs on it? Didn't you watch CNN this morning? It's all they talk about.



Was referring to the exploits of Merian C. Cooper who was pretty much the basis for the director in the story. Among other things he did the film "Chang" (1927) and was literally inches from some pretty big tigers and shit.
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