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Posted: 8/9/2022 10:42:39 AM EDT
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I've been sanding the primer for a few days, I started with 400 and then 600 with the paper wrapped around a sponge.
it's got a bit of orange peel texture in places, but I don't think that bothers me at this point. Here's the current situation: 
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Posted: 8/9/2022 10:43:26 AM EDT
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is 600 grit fine enough to move on to applying the paint? I may try a coat before the weekend.
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Posted: 8/9/2022 11:03:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat was worth watching, thanks |
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Posted: 8/9/2022 12:12:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't use foam brushes, or rollers, it will leave texture. Go to harbor freight and buy a cheap spray setup. The amazon one you linked to could work, but its not made for spraying cars. Gravity fed is what you should get. https://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools-compressors/air-spray-guns.html?category=2029¤t=1 This is good advice if you don’t have time to sand-down the texture between coats, and build-up additional coats with brushes. Get lots of sandpaper, lots of weed, lots of paint, and groove on it long time! |
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Posted: 8/9/2022 12:48:51 PM EDT
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In for the Rembrandt!
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Posted: 8/10/2022 2:51:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: is 600 grit fine enough to move on to applying the paint? I may try a coat before the weekend. |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 1:52:37 PM EDT
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PAINT
It was supposed to be cloudy this morning, so I decided to paint in my driveway. roof only as my playground to figure out what to do. In reading all the labels, the only reason for the reducer seemed to be to make it thin enough to spray. But I'm rolling it or brushing it. So I tried it straight. I did add the hardener, which according to the label would be one can to one gallon of paint, 8/128 oz or 1/16, so I mixed it in a plastic mini-bucket. I masked off the roof  Paint with the foam brush, it was way too thick, left streaks, and the sun came out right as I was starting to paint. I kept going, because this is for posterity and science.  I let the first track harden, and then came back to do some more. I decided to add 1oz of thinner to the 14 oz of paint left in the container. It thinned it a bit, but not enough. 
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Posted: 8/12/2022 1:53:50 PM EDT
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maybe I should drive over to the empty car wash
Edit, no, I'll do it here and get it over with. Once the hardener has been added, it's got an 8 hour shelf life, so I have to use this paint mix today. It's 100 degrees in Orlando and the car is too hot to touch, paint has been sitting in the sun. I added one more ounce of thinner to the existing mix and put it on with the roller. THE ROLLER is the way to do it. the foam brush left vertical streaks, but the roller looks pretty uniform. I had old paint clumps show up in the rolling that I had to pick out with my finger. Lots of what I think is called orange-peel. It's going to need some heavy sanding and definitely a few more coats of paint. but I've made my move.  Some good things are worth doing badly at first, just to get started. |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 2:59:56 PM EDT
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This thread is actually pretty awesome.
Top work, OP |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 3:06:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread is actually pretty awesome. Top work, OP thanks, it's probably going to look like ass up close, but I refuse to pay 2k to paint a car that's worth 3k, and I don't want it to rust. I see other people with blue corollas on the road with a completely rusted roof and hood.  Stay away from toyota blue |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 3:44:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2022 4:54:04 PM EDT
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Didn’t read the whole thread, but I’ve used this in the past
https://www.paintscratch.com/neworder/store/item/MAX/single/ It’s actual catalyzed 2 part clear in a spray can (we used something similar at the auto plants in the repair section) it’s better than any non catalyzed clear in a can that you can get(all the iv inhibitors are in the gardener) You can get semi professional results with some practice, the only bad thing is it’s a a one shot job as once the hardener is mixed in you have a limited window to use Then I’d just get your paint code and send it to one of those places that can mix the correct base coat color in a can for you |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 6:51:59 PM EDT
[#13]
too late!
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Posted: 8/12/2022 7:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: too late! Yup... we paintin' now |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 8:09:42 PM EDT
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Congratulations on committing to a task that most people are afraid to even attempt. Even the unsanded paint with lap marks and orange peel looks way better than the before photos on page 1. Some more sanding and a coat or two applied out of the sun and OP's car will be looking good.
Don't start sanding until the paint hardens up. It will take a while even in the Florida sun. If it gums up your sandpaper it was too soon! Keep it up OP and you will earn a University of Hard Knocks painting diploma in no time! |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 9:02:56 PM EDT
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It will probably be next Friday before I can do any more painting. I don't mind the orange peel, so long as it looks consistent.
It just rained here at dusk and the water beads up really nice on the roof now. I think I'm going to add all of the remaining thinner to the rest of the paint. It's really too thick for my purposes. |
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Posted: 8/12/2022 10:34:35 PM EDT
[#17]
Progress!
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Posted: 8/16/2022 12:06:45 PM EDT
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It was wet with dew this morning so I hit it a bit with 600 grit sandpaper, just a brief pass.
 it knocked off some of the high points. I'll do some more to try to get it to an even, consistent level and then put one more coat of thinner paint on it and call it done. Next will be doing the hood. I think I'll save the trunk area for later. It's got lots of complexities like tail lights |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 2:25:43 PM EDT
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I've been thinking about NOT painting the plastic accents like the front and rear bumpers and the bottom side panels, leaving them blue. Only the metal parts are having paint issues. What do you think about that?
Next up: 
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Posted: 8/16/2022 3:20:42 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been thinking about NOT painting the plastic accents like the front and rear bumpers and the bottom side panels, leaving them blue. Only the metal parts are having paint issues. What do you think about that? Next up: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/5205/IMG_8948-2491367.jpg |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 4:20:20 PM EDT
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that sounds like a good tip. Can you link to a product?
what if I don't put the hardener in to the paint for that step? does the hardener act in opposition to a flex agent? |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 7:27:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that sounds like a good tip. Can you link to a product? what if I don't put the hardener in to the paint for that step? does the hardener act in opposition to a flex agent? As for the hardener question..that I can't answer.
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:10:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some good things are worth doing badly at first, just to get started. i have a blue Corolla commuter. Watching closely op. Keep us updated. May need this for the future. eta. My blue might be a little more purple than yours. Mine is 2014. No major signs of clear failure yet. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 8:41:41 PM EDT
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Your car is 2012 and already like that? My Toyota Camry took 20 years before it started having paint issues like that. I wonder if its the FL sun or other paint changes Toyota did.
But anyway OP, good job on trying hard and not giving up. |
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Posted: 8/16/2022 10:20:36 PM EDT
[#25]
yeah, the Orlando sun is brutal.
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Posted: 8/19/2022 12:43:18 PM EDT
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I hope it's paint weekend... If you were closer I'd loan you an easy-up.
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Posted: 8/19/2022 1:03:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your car is 2012 and already like that? My Toyota Camry took 20 years before it started having paint issues like that. I wonder if its the FL sun or other paint changes Toyota did. But anyway OP, good job on trying hard and not giving up. I've seen newer vehicles here with worse issues. The sun is brutal here if your car is left outside all day and or don't have a garage. |
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Posted: 8/19/2022 4:32:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope it's paint weekend... If you were closer I'd loan you an easy-up. Seems like a good enough excuse for OP to buy one 
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Posted: 8/19/2022 9:43:17 PM EDT
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I've had one in my amazon cart for a while, but had not thought about it for this job. Off to FB to see if I can score one cheap. Money's tight...
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Posted: 8/23/2022 3:38:04 PM EDT
[#30]
The only progress this weekend was hitting the roof with a palm sander and 600 grit paper to try to make the orange peel more uniform
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Posted: 8/23/2022 4:37:24 PM EDT
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LOL oh man I did this on my 66 C-10....you're in for a TON of sanding OP. Did you thin the tractor paint at all? You'll do a lot more coats but there will be less sanding between coats. Good luck, and have the icy hot/bengay/voltaren ready for your hands/elbows.
I need to redo the C-10, and when I do I'm buying a HVLP turbine and spraying it with real automotive paint. Not going to mess around with rolling tractor ever again if I can avoid it. Even getting a Wagner sprayer for this would 100% be worth it OP. You'll spend close to that in supplies and time with masking, taping, sanding, etc. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 6:25:48 PM EDT
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I've thought hard about getting a no-compressor sprayer for the rest of it. What would you recommend?
@K1rodeoboater |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 7:01:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've thought hard about getting a no-compressor sprayer for the rest of it. What would you recommend? A while ago I did some paintwork on a Lexus that I owned. There was a website (I think AutomotiveTouchup.com) that I supplied my paint code from the door card to and they sent me cans of paint prepared to factory spec. It came out pretty nice, almost indistinguishable from the factory paint (fade on the 2004). May be a good option for you. Your first can is on me if you decide to go that route. I applaud your effort and grit. Good luck and waiting to see your final results. |
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Posted: 8/23/2022 9:03:00 PM EDT
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No repaint it.
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Posted: 9/3/2022 9:44:15 AM EDT
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bumping for updates
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Posted: 9/3/2022 12:59:30 PM EDT
[#36]
I will try to do the second coat on the roof and the first coat on the hood this week.
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Posted: 9/5/2022 12:46:39 PM EDT
[#37]
I attacked the hood with 220 then 400 sandpaper to scuff it up. It’s certainly a half ass job. Not done yet. I found a bunch of nicks with a bit of rust in the crater. Spray a shot of black primer on them?
 PS, see the dent and detached bumper by the tire? Do you think I can get in there and knock that dent mostly back into place and secure it? |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 1:33:07 PM EDT
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My experience with plastic bumpers (guessing plastic...)
Hair dryer to heat up and push back out, worked twice on kids cars. Yes, there are clips in there, should reattach fine if they not damaged. |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 1:53:28 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My experience with plastic bumpers (guessing plastic...) Hair dryer to heat up and push back out, worked twice on kids cars. Yes, there are clips in there, should reattach fine if they not damaged. I did the same with a heat gun (oddly enough, to a Corolla) Just be careful if using one as opposed to a hair dryer. They can melt and burn the plastic easily. |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 5:48:26 PM EDT
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I put a coat of paint on the hood and the second coat of paint on the roof. I’m currently sitting in the car wash waiting for it to dry a bit before I head home.
The cops showed up to take a look at me, but no drama. Photos to follow. |
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Posted: 9/6/2022 7:16:26 PM EDT
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I added the remaining bottle of "reducer" to the can of paint, as the directions say, but I don't think it quite thinned it out enough. the hood looks better than the roof, but still a lot of orange peel, which I will have to just accept. I will thin it out more for the rest of the car. i plan to get an EZ up and do the rest of the painting in my driveway.
  roof with second coat 
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Posted: 9/8/2022 11:58:52 AM EDT
[#42]
I think getting a palm sander is the way to go for this.
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Posted: 9/8/2022 1:22:12 PM EDT
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Yes, I have one and used it, will continue to use for future sandings on the car
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Posted: 9/13/2022 2:52:53 PM EDT
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Today:
1. took it for a car wash at a "brush" place- needed to get all the dirt off of the paint that I could. 2. Set up Canopy- It does not cover the whole car. Oh well 2.5 masked the area with blue tape 3. Sanded the driver's side with a palm sander, 600 grit, to scuff up the clear coat 4. then switched to 600 grit hand sanded with a sponge backer 5. then hand sanded with just the paper and my fingers to get in the nooks and crannies 6. Hit some of the bare joints with some 220 grit paper and some spray on primer 7. then a quick car wash with dawn soap and sponge, hose rinse to get the dust off. tut-tut, it looks like rain, so I put everything away, and in 10 minutes it was storming.   this is the worst joint spot, the right hand side of the trunk. I need to sand that down and hit it with the spray on primer  right before the quick wash and rinse 
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Posted: 9/13/2022 7:31:18 PM EDT
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After the rain I got back out and painted, driver side only
 
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Posted: 9/13/2022 10:01:15 PM EDT
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Keep it going!
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Posted: 9/13/2022 10:48:03 PM EDT
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About dusk a neighbor up the street came and rang my doorbell.
"dude, did you paint your car?" "Yup, with a roller." "looks badass, like a military vehicle. You should come over for a beer" "tomorrow" He's been home all day and watching me with increasing curiosity
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Posted: 9/14/2022 11:29:41 AM EDT
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LoL hell yeah
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Posted: 9/14/2022 1:41:09 PM EDT
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An interesting pattern showed up in the new paint overnight.
 I think it's from dew or water on the paint before it had time to harden. When I went out at dusk last night it had either lightly rained or the air was already at the dew point, for the car was slightly wet. It's kinda neat, but I don't like it. Once I finish a first layer on everything, I'll probably sand this defect out and then put a second coat on the whole car. |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 3:22:25 PM EDT
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Kind of cool... take a shot a bit further back.
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