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Link Posted: 5/3/2022 11:06:53 AM EDT
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My request to them didn’t get the same result. I asked for my build and numbers, they gave me the total Smoke Show WBSP Chargers in 2021. Which is 795.
Link Posted: 5/3/2022 6:14:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
My SRT 392 had the 9.5" wheels and I fit 295's on the rear no issue.... and it drastically improved my traction.
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What height did you go with on the 295’s to match the height of the front tires ? What is the height of the front tires?
Thanks
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 1:58:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Swoosh101:


how does that even happen?
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"He started it in first gear apparently…" according to the owner
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 4:46:50 PM EDT
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How can it start in gear?
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 5:14:16 PM EDT
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it would stall so I don't get it.
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 5:17:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Swoosh101:
it would stall so I don't get it.
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From the FCA employee on those forums.

"It will start in gear but the clutch has to be fully depressed, so it can be done but still risky. Your foot slips off the clutch with the torque and a 3.90 gear and some gas and it's gone!"


What really happened, we probably will never know.
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 5:31:48 PM EDT
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I just ordered a wide body Hellcat in frostbite with the brass monkey wheels.  They said 4-5 months.
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 5:38:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CrazyRayRay:
I just ordered a wide body Hellcat in frostbite with the brass monkey wheels.  They said 4-5 months.
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I love that color! Post pics when you get it.
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 5:56:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CrazyRayRay:
I just ordered a wide body Hellcat in frostbite with the brass monkey wheels.  They said 4-5 months.
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Niiiiice.

Challenger or Charger?
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 6:22:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stitches1974:


"He started it in first gear apparently…" according to the owner
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Originally Posted By Stitches1974:
Originally Posted By Swoosh101:


how does that even happen?


"He started it in first gear apparently…" according to the owner


Yeah, he was fucking around - hope they fired him.

At least the owners didn't take delivery & is ordering another one instead.
Maybe he'll order a SP instead of an RT next time.
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 6:44:26 PM EDT
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I got the Challenger.
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 6:45:45 PM EDT
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Also really excited to see Frostbite in person.
Link Posted: 5/4/2022 6:47:47 PM EDT
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Probably started it and then let the clutch out thinking it was in neutral.
Link Posted: 5/5/2022 3:40:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/5/2022 4:15:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
Having sheets of one wrap velcro and a laser to cut it useful sometimes. I still haven't dealt with wires yet.


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On a Charger or Challenger, the wires tuck nicely under the lip of the headliner, and the A-pillar cover comes off easy to route them down and around the glovebox.  I ran my RD off the accessory plug on the passenger side of the tunnel on my Challenger, and that also gave me easy access to the remote mute button built into the plug (Uniden R3).  

RD itself was just to the right of the rearview, top of the windshield, and I had a the top 15% of the window tinted super dark.  You couldn't see the RD from the rear unless you were squatting right behind the trunk, and it was basically invisible from the front as well behind the tint strip.  Still close enough I could reach up and work the controls easily.  

On my new Ram, I ended up with the RD on the driver's side of the rearview, and also at the top of the windshield, just because the other side is so damned far away (big truck is big) and the fusebox is right under the steering wheel, so less hassle running a hardwire kit.
Link Posted: 5/5/2022 4:42:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/5/2022 8:02:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
Having sheets of one wrap velcro and a laser to cut it useful sometimes. I still haven't dealt with wires yet.


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Look into getting a mirror tap kit.
You can eliminate the wires by pulling power from the mirror & it will come on automatically when the car is started.
Link Posted: 5/6/2022 8:51:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:



I had a good setup on my last charger... basically as your described. I'm just being lazy right now, and everyday I've felt like doing it its either cold or raining
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
Originally Posted By Croak:
Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
Having sheets of one wrap velcro and a laser to cut it useful sometimes. I still haven't dealt with wires yet.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/20220505_120244-2373222.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/20220505_120302-2373225.jpg


Very low profile

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On a Charger or Challenger, the wires tuck nicely under the lip of the headliner, and the A-pillar cover comes off easy to route them down and around the glovebox.  I ran my RD off the accessory plug on the passenger side of the tunnel on my Challenger, and that also gave me easy access to the remote mute button built into the plug (Uniden R3).  

RD itself was just to the right of the rearview, top of the windshield, and I had a the top 15% of the window tinted super dark.  You couldn't see the RD from the rear unless you were squatting right behind the trunk, and it was basically invisible from the front as well behind the tint strip.  Still close enough I could reach up and work the controls easily.  

On my new Ram, I ended up with the RD on the driver's side of the rearview, and also at the top of the windshield, just because the other side is so damned far away (big truck is big) and the fusebox is right under the steering wheel, so less hassle running a hardwire kit.



I had a good setup on my last charger... basically as your described. I'm just being lazy right now, and everyday I've felt like doing it its either cold or raining

good idea on the velcro.  I ran my dashcam the way you guys describe, was easy only took like 10 minutes.  I ran mine down to the OBI instead of wiring all the way under the hood or to the trunk.

Question, are radar detectors worth it these days?  that is, do they defeat whatever they use for speed traps?
Link Posted: 5/6/2022 9:06:58 AM EDT
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ugh, sucks.  gonna be forever until we hear about kits for the 392.
Link Posted: 5/6/2022 9:08:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DV8EDD:


ugh, sucks.  gonna be forever until we hear about kits for the 392.
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Originally Posted By DV8EDD:


ugh, sucks.  gonna be forever until we hear about kits for the 392.


I doubt they're going to release anything meaningful for the 392 anyway.
Link Posted: 5/6/2022 10:49:52 AM EDT
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I doubt they're going to release anything meaningful for the 392 anyway.
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Originally Posted By shocktrp:
Originally Posted By DV8EDD:


ugh, sucks.  gonna be forever until we hear about kits for the 392.


I doubt they're going to release anything meaningful for the 392 anyway.

you're probably right but I'm cautiously optimistic.
Link Posted: 5/6/2022 5:41:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/6/2022 9:02:53 PM EDT
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Got my Scat Pack out of winter hibernation for the first time this year and the first destination was the gas station...$80 to fill with non-oxy.

Hearing the burbling, gurgling, and occasional popping from the exhaust while coasting to a stop before disengaging the clutch: priceless.  
Link Posted: 5/6/2022 9:56:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JuanPing:
Got my Scat Pack out of winter hibernation for the first time this year and the first destination was the gas station...$80 to fill with non-oxy.
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I’m at 4,000 feet elevation. Do you think 87 octane is good to go at that elevation?
Link Posted: 5/6/2022 11:33:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 01911:

I'm at 4,000 feet elevation. Do you think 87 octane is good to go at that elevation?
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Originally Posted By JuanPing:
Got my Scat Pack out of winter hibernation for the first time this year and the first destination was the gas station...$80 to fill with non-oxy.

I'm at 4,000 feet elevation. Do you think 87 octane is good to go at that elevation?
Couldn't tell you if there would be any benefit to higher octane. I'm about 3000' lower. I only run the non-oxy because I don't daily drive my car and don't like leaving that ethanol (which is mixed in the lower grades offered around here) sitting in the fuel system for any longer than necessary.  That shit is garbage.
Link Posted: 5/7/2022 3:36:48 PM EDT
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New Customer Order Tracking website LEAKED for Dodge Jeep Ram
Link Posted: 5/7/2022 3:52:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/7/2022 8:26:30 PM EDT
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That video has some serious inaccuracies in it.  For instance, "D" status is just a VIN assignment and a tentative commitment to build, with absolutely no dates.  It's not until it goes into D1 status that a very rough ship date is given.  The gap between getting a VIN and getting a ship date can be months, and I've seen D status go back into C status (though they don't lose the VIN) as shortages/issues make it a possibility that the order won't be built at all.

Once a vehicle goes into F status it moves pretty quick, the exception being stuff that has to go to an upfitter (which in the case of this thread's interest is all widebody, Hellcat, 1320, Shaker, Daytona and T/A builds).  Things get a little less firm when it goes to the third party upfitter, it's a black hole and you don't know when it's coming out.

When it hit's "I" status, it can also be a bit before it moves on to KZ (dealer is invoiced and vehicle sent to rail yard).  Once it's in KZxx, that means it's moving in the direction of your dealership, but it's a slow train, that stops and unloads for about a day at each stop.  From Brampton to Orlando, for instance, there's usually four to six stops, with a two or three days between stops.  4 stops means about 8-12 days, etc.   Once it arrives at its final railhead, the vehicle can then sit for several days before it's put in the queue to be loaded on a transporter truck for delivery to the dealership.  TL:DR:  From KZ to your store is usually about two to three weeks unless you live fairly close to Ontario or Detroit.  

Dealerships already have full access to the build status, and even detailed tracking once it went to KZ (in transit).  

It boggles my mind how many customers are left clueless about the process, and how many salespeople are clueless too, because any certified CDJR salesperson has to have a DealerConnect logon and unless the dealership manually downrates their access they can see inventory status (though you need higher access to see dealer cost, holdback, EPP, etc).  And it only takes about a minute to check the status of a build, albeit that status could be kind of fuzzy.  

I make it a point to check order status first thing in the morning while drinking my coffee at home, and right before closing, and update my customers as soon as there's a change (usually with a screenshot like the ones below).  I check not just for my customers, but for what's in the pipeline for store inventory too, knowledge is power.  Happy customers come back.  Happy customers tell their friends.  Pissed customers don't come back.  Pissed customers tell EVERYBODY.

Keeping updated is shit simple to do, here's the website below, and I've sorted for ordered units, and by build status.  You can always click on the VON/VIN to get a POC (see 2nd pic below) and once it ships you can click on the status for the detailed tracking (3rd pic below).



Here's a Priced Order Confirmation (POC) screenshot from end of March of a Charger Scat Widebody with the Hemi Orange package I ordered for a customer back in December.  3/28 was the day it went to D1:



And here's today's tracking (it went to KZ on 4/28, and it just left the Michigan rail yard yesterday morning, and notice it missed the POC ship ETA by more than two weeks before sitting for another week):



Long story longer, any dealership that tells you they don't know what's going on is probably telling the truth while it's in C, D, and D1 status, since all we know is the fuzzy scheduling from Stellantis for those stages.  But once it's actually on the production line, you can get pretty accurate info where it is at in the process, and where it's at while shipping.

Link Posted: 5/7/2022 8:34:49 PM EDT
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Oh, also, customer had a 55.6k MSRP that's locked in, he beat the 2022 price increase even though the sticker and POC will show the 58k MSRP.

And, just now noticed that PAE, which was Smoke Show Gray, is now being called Burn Out Gray.  I reckon some Karen in HR or PR got butthurt, hence the name change.  But me, I'll deadname it.  :)
Link Posted: 5/7/2022 8:38:35 PM EDT
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I had an oops moment today


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Link Posted: 5/7/2022 9:30:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Croak:
Oh, also, customer had a 55.6k MSRP that's locked in, he beat the 2022 price increase even though the sticker and POC will show the 58k MSRP.

And, just now noticed that PAE, which was Smoke Show Gray, is now being called Burn Out Gray.  I reckon some Karen in HR or PR got butthurt, hence the name change.  But me, I'll deadname it.  :)
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Mine was like that too - I ordered in December, they had a price increase in January.
They honored my original price even though MSRP on my sticker went up (I paid less than MSRP, & got the rebate).

(I think the point of the guy's video is that they're going to allow customers to track their own cars online like they used to.)
Link Posted: 5/7/2022 9:34:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
I had an oops moment today


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Redeye, Redeye Widebody, Super Stock, or Demon?
Link Posted: 5/7/2022 9:35:28 PM EDT
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I had an oops moment today


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You get better MPG than I do.

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Link Posted: 5/7/2022 11:20:07 PM EDT
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Jesus. I get 17-20 in my Hellcat.
Link Posted: 5/7/2022 11:23:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/7/2022 11:24:31 PM EDT
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Most of my driving is KY backroads. But I rarely ever sit in traffic.
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I had an oops moment today


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Link Posted: 5/9/2022 12:54:45 PM EDT
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My 2022 scat charger in octane red daytona group is in d1 as of last week.

I figured on better mileage than that for sure.   I have an 04 2500 ram 4x4 with the 5.7 and get 18 to 22 mpg on the 55mph backroads.  Now I'm curious to what the car will get driving it the same way.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 12:17:43 PM EDT
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Last pic of mine, left to go to a Texas dealer yesterday.

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Link Posted: 5/13/2022 11:55:08 PM EDT
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Apparently if you want a SPWB you have to do a factory order - dealers cannot order them for stock so you won't see them on the lots anymore.
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Wow!
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Apparently if you want a SPWB you have to do a factory order - dealers cannot order them for stock so you won't see them on the lots anymore.
Wow!

ugh, this just sucks.
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