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Originally Posted By uglygun: I am gonna be north of 300rwhp and closer to 400rwhp. No desire for one wheel peel so that means I am going to a trutrak. Add to that regearing to a 3.25-3.50 gear ratio and it makes zero sense sticking to an 8 inch. I could goto an 8.8 or a couple different 9inch options but the full floating rear option is actually respectfully priced compared to some of the traditional 9in options that are out there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By uglygun: Originally Posted By 10mm_: Good luck breaking that 8 inch with a smallblock, they're tougher than you might think. I am gonna be north of 300rwhp and closer to 400rwhp. No desire for one wheel peel so that means I am going to a trutrak. Add to that regearing to a 3.25-3.50 gear ratio and it makes zero sense sticking to an 8 inch. I could goto an 8.8 or a couple different 9inch options but the full floating rear option is actually respectfully priced compared to some of the traditional 9in options that are out there. My vote is for an 8.8, not just because of cost but also weight/efficiency. 9"'s are heavy and suck up power to turn. About 15 years ago I rebuilt the center section in my 8.8" (Foxbody), and added Moser axles. Still 28 spline in the factory diff, I did add a Ford Racing 3.73 ring/pinion. My 347 made 397/377 at the tire NA and 497/508 at the tire on a 100 shot. (DynoJet) That was enough for 10.79@126 with a 1.49 60' on bias ply tires and a stick shift, race weight 3880. That rear end is still going strong to this day. In that light car with street tires an 8.8 is going to be cheaper and more efficient and flat out work better. If you have big plans for an 88mm and a powerglide then the 9" would be a good option to buy once cry once. |
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Originally Posted By 10mm_: I wasn't recommending you build the 8", I was just saying you aren't likely to break it before you swap it out. Especially on those 17's. My vote is for an 8.8, not just because of cost but also weight/efficiency. 9"'s are heavy and suck up power to turn. About 15 years ago I rebuilt the center section in my 8.8" (Foxbody), and added Moser axles. Still 28 spline in the factory diff, I did add a Ford Racing 3.73 ring/pinion. My 347 made 397/377 at the tire NA and 497/508 at the tire on a 100 shot. (DynoJet) That was enough for 10.79@126 with a 1.49 60' on bias ply tires and a stick shift, race weight 3880. That rear end is still going strong to this day. In that light car with street tires an 8.8 is going to be cheaper and more efficient and flat out work better. If you have big plans for an 88mm and a powerglide then the 9" would be a good option to buy once cry once. View Quote Car is gonna be for cornering not for straight line. My 95 Cobra has a pretty well built 8.8 in it with 3.73s. I know how it behaves with around 220-240rwhp. Not looking to go that route due to needing a ton of fab work to get it to jive with the 3 link. A nasty small block 66 coupe with great handling is my answer to dropping my plans to do a FFR Type 65 coupe years ago. I am 20 minutes away from Buttonwillow Raceway and would really like to get to bomb the track a couple times. Otherwise it will be used for eating up the back roads. |
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Brakes and rack came in other day. Massive rotors are massive
Rest of front suspension ordered today. All new control arms and coil over fronts with camber kit and sub frames. Hoping to have rear end and 3 link with coil overs by end of dec or january. |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: Welp... I went full retard. New spindles with billet caliper mounts for massive 4 piston calipers and 13 x 1.25 inch two piece rotors. Coil overs and full new control arms along with the sub frame connectors. Be a few weeks before I can get it all installed with the new quicker ratio power steering. Will be a few months before I get the rear end and suspension to match the front. https://i.imgur.com/uTBmz9o.jpg View Quote Who’s kit is that? |
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Originally Posted By DonofKalifornia: Who’s kit is that? View Quote StreetOrTrack After looking at what they have compared to Maier and GlobalWest iy was pretty much a no brainer. 3 link full floating rear axle should prove bomb proof for the power my 331 should make. Hoping the car will come in under 3000 pounds. |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: StreetOrTrack After looking at what they have compared to Maier and GlobalWest iy was pretty much a no brainer. 3 link full floating rear axle should prove bomb proof for the power my 331 should make. Hoping the car will come in under 3000 pounds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By uglygun: Originally Posted By DonofKalifornia: Who’s kit is that? StreetOrTrack After looking at what they have compared to Maier and GlobalWest iy was pretty much a no brainer. 3 link full floating rear axle should prove bomb proof for the power my 331 should make. Hoping the car will come in under 3000 pounds. I remember Bill Maier back when he started his business, he ran a A/S Mustang. His kids run it now, much more focused than Bill. I think Globalwest started in Hayward too. |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: Hoping the car will come in under 3000 pounds. View Quote It’ll be close. Lots of aluminum up front, battery in the trunk. I removed what I didn’t need/want... heater core/plenum/fan motor, carpet padding, power steering I can’t really make the nose any lighter without carbon fiber body pieces and/or aluminum block. Right at 3000# with a little fuel and without me in it. 9” rear, so there’s weight in that |
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Originally Posted By ch3no2: It’ll be close. Lots of aluminum up front, battery in the trunk. I removed what I didn’t need/want... heater core/plenum/fan motor, carpet padding, power steering I can’t really make the nose any lighter without carbon fiber body pieces and/or aluminum block. Right at 3000# with a little fuel and without me in it. 9” rear, so there’s weight in that View Quote Hoping to lose a lot of weight with my coil overs replacing the leaf springs. But then I am going from a 8in housing to 9in. Probably a draw. Going towards a roll bar with a removable harness bar once I get better seats |
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Originally Posted By DonofKalifornia: I remember Bill Maier back when he started his business, he ran a A/S Mustang. His kids run it now, much more focused than Bill. I think Globalwest started in Hayward too. View Quote The StreetOrTrack stuff really impresses me in the over all level of detail that goes into it. The 3 link really sold me for the entire kit. Was considering going leafsprings in the rear with a panhard bar. Would have been a bit cheaper in the end. There is also something about Aussie dudes that come to the US for the pursuit of track based auto parts. |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: Got it to breathe to life for a moment then it decided it isnt gonna want to start again. Plugs are foulded bad. Went looking at the carb and we are guessing it needs a rebuild to stop flooding the poor cylinders. View Quote I don't understand why people don't buy a new carb from the parts store. No fucking around, it's ready to go. Fiddlefuck with the settings and you're good to go. I myself would buy one of those bolt on fuel injection systems, set and forget. |
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Grab a fence post, hold it tight, womp your partner with all your might, hit him in the shin, hit him in the head, hit him again the critter ain't dead!
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Not to hijack this thread, but this is a thread of my little stroker build.
If all goes well, my son and I will put it in the car this weekend |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: Front suspension and brakes are installed. Rack going in soon. Was a bitch dealing with finding a belt for the ppwer steering. Hope to button up and have brakes/steering bled tomorrow. Car had some helper springs on rear shocks that we removed so car may sit a lot lower all of a sudden. At least front coil overs will diql in to match. Front shocks were badically blowm to the point of being Austin Powers penis pumps in terms of compressive resistance. Cars name is now "Deadpool". An injury with an air tool basically means a chunk of my buddy's finger tip is forever a piece of the car. Car is currently red and black, why red "well that is so they can't see you bleed." Probably gonna go with a majority of the car black and then do red pin striping/accents. Custom logos for the wheel center caps, gas cap, and a unicorn to replace the front pony corral are in the works. https://i.imgur.com/hv2wGDK.jpg View Quote Nice And yes... coil springs aren’t to be fucked around with. I hope your buddy is ok |
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I suddenly have brake envy
Although my OE Kelsey Hayes (factory GT car) do ok |
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Originally Posted By ch3no2: Nice And yes... coil springs aren’t to be fucked around with. I hope your buddy is ok View Quote It wasnt the coils. It was something completely different. Basically ran a bolt in and when it bit it went right past the making of a blood blister to just biting that chunk of skin right off like nail clippers or a hole punch would. |
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT: This thread got me motivated. I jacked my ‘66 up yesterday, put it on stands and measured my pinion type and ordered my new 3:50 center section with an Eaton Truetrac. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5682/5bZ7qG.jpg View Quote A 3.50 really seems like it will be best combo for decent acceleration and top end while not being annoying as hell at freeway speeds. My 95 cobra with a 3.73 would be obnoxious if not for overdrive. |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: A 3.50 really seems like it will be best combo for decent acceleration and top end while not being annoying as hell at freeway speeds. My 95 cobra with a 3.73 would be obnoxious if not for overdrive. View Quote Has a 4:11 right now and running the T-5z manual. 4:11 was just too much for what I want out of this car. I had a 3:73 in my SN95 with an AODE and I have the 3:55 option in my ‘15. I really like that combination. |
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT: Has a 4:11 right now and running the T-5z manual. 4:11 was just too much for what I want out of this car. I had a 3:73 in my SN95 with an AODE and I have the 3:55 option in my ‘15. I really like that combination. View Quote Had 3.55 in my 2005 and have 3.73 in my 2015 GT perf pack as well. Even with the tall ass tires of the 2015 the 3.73 just isnt my favorite. Hate the shift point from 2nd to 3rd being almost precisely at 60mph with the 3.73. Loved the 3.55 in my 2005. Wish my 2015 was 3.55 but "muh perf pack..." May rebuild engine with higher compression pistons and the HP boost should really drive the 66 well with 3.50. |
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Had a possible bad flare on front brake line at master cylinder. 95 Mustang dual master cylinder requires oddball flare. Supplied line may have been off center/off alignment.
Gonna give an adapter a try tonight and reflare the line. If front brakes will bleed the car is ready for a drive after we doubke check the wheel base and maybe hit the strut rods to dial a bit of caster in. Looking forward to getting car back on the road. Suspension is when you push on it while on it's wheels is firm. Front antisway bar is about double the diameter of what came off. Need to get it aligned and then starting to throw some corners at it. See where and how I rub the fenders and then have an actual reason for rolled or pulled fenders. Once rear suspension goes on and new quarter panels go on I will hopefully be able to tuck a 275 wide tire. |
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Something was goofy with the SN95 as far as metric vs SAE. I do remember when I did the Cobra brake swap I had to use a ‘93 Cobra MC for threads to match. I think the Cobra that year was metric?? Might also be something with the line diameter? Just throwing that out there if it may be part of the issue.
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT: Something was goofy with the SN95 as far as metric vs SAE. I do remember when I did the Cobra brake swap I had to use a ‘93 Cobra MC for threads to match. I think the Cobra that year was metric?? Might also be something with the line diameter? Just throwing that out there if it may be part of the issue. View Quote So my fittings came in and there was a note from Maximum Motorsports that the rear port is the front brake port and the front port is for the rear. Told my friend this and he was all "bullshit, front is front rear is rear." Who am I to argue... i suggested switchi g the lines last week but he was all "it doesnt matter". Well we tear the fucker out. Look at all the lines, look at the ports. Everything is clear. We put the master cylinder into a vise and pull the clip and discover the piston is two piece. I tell him "dude this thing likely has seperate springs acting as a proportioning valve". Drive out the second piece and sure enough another spring to the piston. So we put it all back together and swap the lines out, front brakes suddenly working and bled with good pedal feel. Hardly anything coming out the back but we have rear drums still so not much gonna happen til the rear end comes in with 13in discs and it wont need a ton of pressure to hit the right bias. I was aware of the weird swapping of fitting sizes on Cobras to differentiate them from other master cylinders on the assembly line. Reading up on the whole 93, 94-95 GT, 95 Cobra Master cylinders I ran into an old corral post by you. There are various changes in the master cylinders with differing proportioning. Could be I get a different master cylinder some day and just run a rear proportioning valve to tweak bias. For now front brakes as they sit will be better than the complete brakes that were replaced. |
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Awesome! My son often runs across posts I've made too while researching something online. I'll get a call, "Dad, did you know back in 2004 you solved my problem with......" I guess that's why I have to be very careful what I post online! LOL!!
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The front end is nuts. Like I need better seats and harnesses just to stay in the car so it doesnt throw me right out of the car for the way it can turn now.
The 17s are likely helping some. Got 225s on all corners for now but moving to 245 front and 275 rear will be the goal. I dont even have an alignment, it is close right now but not quite dialed perfectly, nor have I got the 3 link rear and subframes yet. Once the suspension is all together this car is gon a be screaming for more power. 300-350rwhp would put this car into a very strong running nasty street machine category. Car went from being sketchy 40-50mph car where you stayed in the slow lane on the freeway to a confident 75-80mph car on the freeway. It hits 90+ with no problem but not gonna make a habit of that til mods are done and everything is sorted. Strange though is that my damn upper radiator hose is pressurizing. Changed the thermostat and radiator cap out last month and I stopped having issues with the radiator pushing fluid to the overflow. Now the problem is back. Gonna pull thermostat to see if maybe it is stuck open which defeating the pause of fluid and cooling of radiator being just stuck open. Car isnt overheating, yet, but it is likely getting close. If it is the water pump I am likely to "fuck it" point with deadpool and will finish off my 331 and get it into the car with a rebuild transmission. Probably take me 4-5k to finish engine and get trans rebuilt. 8 inch rear wont be long for this world if I do that. |
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You will do yourself a huge favor by throwing your points and condenser in your glove box and replacing it with a Pertronix unit. It is invisible to the outside.
ETA: I see you picked an HEI. Good choice. |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: Welp... I went full retard. New spindles with billet caliper mounts for massive 4 piston calipers and 13 x 1.25 inch two piece rotors. Coil overs and full new control arms along with the sub frame connectors. Be a few weeks before I can get it all installed with the new quicker ratio power steering. Will be a few months before I get the rear end and suspension to match the front. https://i.imgur.com/uTBmz9o.jpg View Quote Edit: never mind, already answered |
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Unrelated but a small thing pedal pads for the brake pedal were still available from Ford and fairly cheap.
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Originally Posted By whiskerz: Unrelated but a small thing pedal pads for the brake pedal were still available from Ford and fairly cheap. View Quote It will be addressed arou d the same time as I address an issue with brake travel and brake light switch. The brake is about 2 inches too high now for where the master cylinder pushes it back to return. I need an adjustable stop to prevent it from being whot upwards and banging against the dash reinforcement every time you take your foot off the brake. This violent stop also has a habit of making the brake switch rotate in such a way that it doesnt want to activate. A zip tie on brake switch keeping it in line will stop that along with a new brake switch that hopefully fits tighter to pedal/pushrod assembly. Car came back from alignment. Settings we were able to hit right off the lift were - 1 7/8deg camber on one side and - 1 5/8deg camber on other side. I wanted 1.5 and that is what car is set to. We got toe dead straight on the lift and I had shop dial in 1/16 toe. Caster was 2 deg positive coming off the lift. I had it set to 5 degrees. This car is stable at 90mph already and dives into a corner like nobody's business. Once I get the 3 link rear the car is gonna be insane. |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: Continuing with quality of life improvements inside the car. Test fitting a rear package tray for 6x9s in custom 3D printed mounts. Suede-like headliner material inbound which will be used to cover the package tray and mount the 6x9s. Testing the sound it is really sounding pretty decent. Once the seat goes back in I may even get a tiny bit of bass. https://i.imgur.com/c6B2o1H.jpg Test fitting new black dash pad because my heater box is a mess of rusted doors and decomposing heater vents. Driving to work in the morning reveals a giant freezing cold draft from the passenger side(cleanout door rusted open and other issues) Replacing all that shit with a new box and heater core. Old dash pad was red and I HATED it. https://i.imgur.com/bQ2UqFg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5PO388V.jpg Lastly. Car is handling and braking so well it is deserving of the badges finally going on. https://i.imgur.com/iBg4GuV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/A2RWHKx.jpg View Quote Lookin’ good You’re putting all kinds of nutso ideas in my head |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: It will be addressed arou d the same time as I address an issue with brake travel and brake light switch. The brake is about 2 inches too high now for where the master cylinder pushes it back to return. I need an adjustable stop to prevent it from being whot upwards and banging against the dash reinforcement every time you take your foot off the brake. This violent stop also has a habit of making the brake switch rotate in such a way that it doesnt want to activate. A zip tie on brake switch keeping it in line will stop that along with a new brake switch that hopefully fits tighter to pedal/pushrod assembly. Car came back from alignment. Settings we were able to hit right off the lift were - 1 7/8deg camber on one side and - 1 5/8deg camber on other side. I wanted 1.5 and that is what car is set to. We got toe dead straight on the lift and I had shop dial in 1/16 toe. Caster was 2 deg positive coming off the lift. I had it set to 5 degrees. This car is stable at 90mph already and dives into a corner like nobody's business. Once I get the 3 link rear the car is gonna be insane. View Quote Power steering assist? +5* caster is a bunch. My car is manual steering. I was shooting for +3* caster, I wound up at +2.8 (passenger side) and +3* (driver side). Low speed (parking lots, etc) is tolerable. It had 3/16 toe, I backed that off to 1/8. All that, along with equalizing the negative camber side-to-side and it drives much better. With OE-style control arms (shims) and strut rods I’m not going to get it any closer. This car accelerates HARD. With the front end all ironed out it goes much straighter when most of its weight is transferred onto the rear tires |
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On your stereo/sound system... where are you putting the receiver?
I hope you don’t have to cut that virgin dash. Your car and my car may be two of the last that were NOT butchered over the years Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ch3no2: On your stereo/sound system... where are you putting the receiver? I hope you don’t have to cut that virgin dash. Your car and my car may be two of the last that were NOT butchered over the years https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/277622/C337D863-CD85-48AD-AF25-295BA4FDEF8D_jpe-1730388.JPG View Quote Headunit mounted in glovebox in a 3d print. Will build custom glovebox at some point but not worth it yet |
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Originally Posted By ScottsGT: Looking great! I had this little gem show up last weekend. I know what I'll be working on during the Christmas break! https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/1491/pACQDf.jpg View Quote Nice Ratio? Axles (splines)? |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: Headunit mounted in glovebox in a 3d print. Will build custom glovebox at some point but not worth it yet View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By uglygun: Originally Posted By ch3no2: On your stereo/sound system... where are you putting the receiver? I hope you don’t have to cut that virgin dash. Your car and my car may be two of the last that were NOT butchered over the years https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/277622/C337D863-CD85-48AD-AF25-295BA4FDEF8D_jpe-1730388.JPG Headunit mounted in glovebox in a 3d print. Will build custom glovebox at some point but not worth it yet Cool. I’d need to reconfigure it to fit a head unit, but my ignition and electronics are mounted behind the glove box door. I have a wideband O2 setup on the way so I have to put that controller box in there somewhere |
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Originally Posted By ch3no2: Nice Ratio? Axles (splines)? View Quote From Quick Performance F9C-LLR Ford 9" Complete Center Section / Third Member Gear Ratio: 3.50 Carrier Options: 28 Eaton Truetrac - $546.00 Pinion Support: Nodular Iron Daytona - $110.00 Yoke: Short Narrow 1310 It's going into my Lincoln Versailles housing and at the same time I'm removing the Versailles disc system (sucks really bad) and installing SN95 rear disc system. |
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Originally Posted By ch3no2: Cool. I’d need to reconfigure it to fit a head unit, but my ignition and electronics are mounted behind the glove box door. I have a wideband O2 setup on the way so I have to put that controller box in there somewhere View Quote If you get a digital media unit and ditch the CD player portion then you wind up with a tiny unit that while DIN size on height and width, the actual depth of the unit is less than 4 inches and it weighs next to nothing. I got a kenwood unit with a remote so when I run with the glovebox door down it is easy to change files/volume. Try to hit around 20w RMS and you will have more than enough volume to drown out road noise or exhaust unless you are running cutouts or race mufflers. |
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Originally Posted By uglygun: If you get a digital media unit and ditch the CD player portion then you wind up with a tiny unit that while DIN size on height and width, the actual depth of the unit is less than 4 inches and it weighs next to nothing. I got a kenwood unit with a remote so when I run with the glovebox door down it is easy to change files/volume. Try to hit around 20w RMS and you will have more than enough volume to drown out road noise or exhaust unless you are running cutouts or race mufflers. Hooking up the rear deck and everything in the car sounds quite good. Uploaded video clip to instagram View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By uglygun: Originally Posted By ch3no2: Cool. I’d need to reconfigure it to fit a head unit, but my ignition and electronics are mounted behind the glove box door. I have a wideband O2 setup on the way so I have to put that controller box in there somewhere If you get a digital media unit and ditch the CD player portion then you wind up with a tiny unit that while DIN size on height and width, the actual depth of the unit is less than 4 inches and it weighs next to nothing. I got a kenwood unit with a remote so when I run with the glovebox door down it is easy to change files/volume. Try to hit around 20w RMS and you will have more than enough volume to drown out road noise or exhaust unless you are running cutouts or race mufflers. Hooking up the rear deck and everything in the car sounds quite good. Uploaded video clip to instagram Nice 👍 My car is SO loud, I’d need to amplify any speakers I mount. I could put amps in the trunk, I’m just not sure I want to add that much weight. My car is rather singular in purpose Pretty much everything is built/tuned around vision-blurring acceleration and not so much for cruising |
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Originally Posted By ch3no2: Nice 👍 My car is SO loud, I’d need to amplify any speakers I mount. I could put amps in the trunk, I’m just not sure I want to add that much weight. My car is rather singular in purpose Pretty much everything is built/tuned around vision-blurring acceleration and not so much for cruising View Quote My 95 Cobra has headers/offroadpipe/flowmasters and even with the windows down at 110+ I can hear my factory speakers above all that noise. I do have the stock "Mach460" amps running to the speakers but it isnt terribly louder than what I have set up in my 66 right now. Around 20 watts RMS per channel really is a pretty decent amount of power. |
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