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Posted: 7/3/2017 7:19:45 AM EDT
Stoner riding a preprod unit:
UPDATE: Leaked (pre)production shot: 
"Stradale" engine: 
UPDATE #2: Details, details... Standard 
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Nekkid: 
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Posted: 7/3/2017 7:29:30 AM EDT
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Looks nice for a Harley?..
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Posted: 7/3/2017 7:43:45 AM EDT
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Looks nice for a Harley?.. 
I bet we see it at the Laguna SBK event. On a more serious note, I hope Ducati have this one figured out better than the Panigale. |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 9:14:22 AM EDT
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As the Pani was full retard, this thing should be beyond insane.
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Posted: 7/3/2017 10:39:23 AM EDT
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i may have to own one.
or i may buy a nice used 1198s. i love the L twin thump and dry clutch clank 
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Posted: 7/3/2017 2:31:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2017 3:25:16 PM EDT
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Neva been dun befoa -  |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 3:49:35 PM EDT
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Meh as a Duc fan, they are going to ruin the name...
Im old school. I miss my 900SL. I need to find an 888 or 851.
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Posted: 7/25/2017 5:54:56 AM EDT
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Meh as a Duc fan, they are going to ruin the name... Im old school. I miss my 900SL. I need to find an 888 or 851. 
My 1 gripe concerns the rumor that the street version may be a 1200 cc variant instead of sticking to 1000 cc format across the board. That would make it a little heavier, & the latter would make more than sufficient power in a 4 cylinder format. Don't do it, Ducati. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 8:32:51 AM EDT
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I did,,,it looks like every other kawi-honda-suzuki-yamaha out there...im sure its function over form.
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Posted: 7/25/2017 9:27:49 AM EDT
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I did,,,it looks like every other kawi-honda-suzuki-yamaha out there...im sure its function over form.  HD is what happens when a company rests on its laurels & doesn't try to anticipate change & adapt to it, or try to create or expand its market.
Can't wait to see the it race WSBK in 2019. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 11:08:30 AM EDT
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i miss the dry clutch clank
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Posted: 7/25/2017 11:36:27 AM EDT
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Which one of the big 4 runs a V4 SBK with a single side swingearm in a monocoque chassis? So Ducati is no longer Ducati because they added +2 more cylinders (for functional/performance reasons & also regulatory changes by Dorna). HD is what happens when a company rests on its laurels & doesn't try to anticipate change & adapt to it, or try to create or expand its market.
Can't wait to see the it race WSBK in 2019. Im a big duc fan, have owned 3 (900 SL, M900, 916) |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 1:27:24 PM EDT
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your talking mechanics. Im talking looks..the front end looks like very other super bike out there. mechanically, its a total different animal. Im a big duc fan, have owned 3 (900 SL, M900, 916) Thus far, the universal opinions I've been seeing on forums & media sites have likened its appearance to a beefed up Panigale. Yours is the 1st comment I've read stating otherwise. Again, different strokes. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 2:04:02 PM EDT
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To each their own for sure. Im a big fan of the 888, 851 and 900 Super light / super sports. Just the same as I like the twin headlight FZR and the 86-87 GSXRs.
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Posted: 7/25/2017 2:14:31 PM EDT
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Jeezus. You guys are never happy.
Change is hard. As bad as the big twin air cooled Harley guys. LOL. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 2:17:26 PM EDT
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Jeezus. You guys are never happy. Change is hard. As bad as the big twin air cooled Harley guys. LOL.
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Posted: 7/25/2017 2:18:41 PM EDT
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actually I hate change,,so there's that...lol. LOL. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 2:37:40 PM EDT
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To each their own for sure. Im a big fan of the 888, 851 and 900 Super light / super sports. Just the same as I like the twin headlight FZR and the 86-87 GSXRs. The big 4 make good bikes, but their styling depts have been doing some "curious" stuff, though they appear to be trying lately. This new bike looks fetching (IMO), even in its mule state. I hope they won't restrict the 1000 cc engine to the R model. Also hope they continue to tighten up QC some more. The Panigale has had some posted issues that $20+K should probably take care of straight from the factory, though it is steps up from the previous models in this area. |
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Posted: 7/25/2017 2:39:47 PM EDT
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Double post.
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Posted: 8/3/2017 11:06:24 PM EDT
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Meh as a Duc fan, they are going to ruin the name... Im old school. I miss my 900SL. I need to find an 888 or 851. Compared to the hopped up 1098s that another friend has, it's like diamonds and gravel. |
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Posted: 8/3/2017 11:13:08 PM EDT
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To each their own for sure. Im a big fan of the 888, 851 and 900 Super light / super sports. Just the same as I like the twin headlight FZR and the 86-87 GSXRs. Mine was a California model (single seat, exup valve) black and metallic grey FZR-400. I miss that bike but I never want to ride it again because my expectation of a motorcycle has changed and I have changed as a rider. What would have been a fantastic bike back then would be a real snooze fest today with definite handling deficiencies. Some people clamor for a street legal motoGP bike, some people clamor for aging designs they claim are classic. I prefer waterproof electrics (which Ducati didn't have until the 916 came out) and bikes that don't need timing belts every 7500 miles or they grenade motors... I'm happy with what Ducati is doing. |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 10:03:14 AM EDT
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drop that motor into a sexy trellis type frame, get rid off all the fairings and please do something with those 2 boxy bottom mounted mufflers and price it under $20k and I would be hard pressed to not bite.
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Posted: 8/7/2017 4:14:33 PM EDT
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drop that motor into a sexy trellis type frame, get rid off all the fairings and please do something with those 2 boxy bottom mounted mufflers and price it under $20k and I would be hard pressed to not bite. I'm sure a street orient design will eventually get a version of that motor, too, though. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 5:42:23 PM EDT
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What is the brown cylindrical thing in the original photo? It's on the right side above the rider's heel. It looks to be leather.
Also, would the production mufflers also look like those black boxes beneath the frame? It is interesting how not having a big chrome pipe cleans up the appearance. |
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Posted: 8/7/2017 6:37:15 PM EDT
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What is the brown cylindrical thing in the original photo? It's on the right side above the rider's heel. It looks to be leather. Also, would the production mufflers also look like those black boxes beneath the frame? It is interesting how not having a big chrome pipe cleans up the appearance. Seems like most of the sportbike manufacturers are going with the Buell-esque underslung exhaust nowadays - better mass centraliztion, and it's easier to hide the HUGE catalysts that bikes require nowadays. The US-spec Panigale had that type of exhaust as well. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 2:37:49 AM EDT
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Looks to be a crude, pre-production heat shield. Looks like copper or another tarnished alloy to me... Seems like most of the sportbike manufacturers are going with the Buell-esque underslung exhaust nowadays - better mass centraliztion, and it's easier to hide the HUGE catalysts that bikes require nowadays. The US-spec Panigale had that type of exhaust as well. 
It's a heat shield. Rear shock reservoir is to the left. Ducati is able to tuck the muffler the muffler in tighter because of the single sided swing arm, which itself trades flex performance characteristics for better mass packaging. Aesthetically, this thing rocks. My concern with Ducati is in the area of QC & certain design features that seemingly eschew established best practices out of a desire to be "different" (eg. Panigale oil filter). I'd like to think they would be brave enough to learn from tthe past in designing this one, but I suspect I'm being too optimistic. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 7:55:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/8/2017 3:51:28 PM EDT
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Almost certainly it's a heat shield of sorts.
Another question, what is it wrapped around. Is that a charcoal canister? It looks to be piped into the muffler in some way. I am confused by this ugly object.. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 6:21:53 PM EDT
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get those pipes up under the seat. come on Ducati. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296599/Ducati-1299-Panigale-R-Final-Edition-45-274733.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
get those pipes up under the seat. come on Ducati. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296599/Ducati-1299-Panigale-R-Final-Edition-45-274733.JPG Quoted:
Almost certainly it's a heat shield of sorts. Another question, what is it wrapped around. Is that a charcoal canister? It looks to be piped into the muffler in some way. I am confused by this ugly object.. |
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Posted: 8/8/2017 8:55:32 PM EDT
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That loop is the exhaust exiting from the rear cylinder bank. The exhaust volume needs to be equal between all the cylinders, so, for the bellypan muffler config they're going for, the rear pipes need to run a loop circuit to have the same volume as the pipes coming off the front cylinders. |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 3:31:16 PM EDT
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dear jesus. i may have to buy one.
 Ducati V4 Superbike First Video and Soundcheck |
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Posted: 8/24/2017 9:53:01 PM EDT
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Holy fuck, that sounds awesome.
And here I thought my next bike might be a bit more grown up....... |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 8:10:00 AM EDT
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Holy fuck, that sounds awesome. And here I thought my next bike might be a bit more grown up....... but i think i will need one of these 
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Posted: 8/27/2017 6:18:52 PM EDT
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get those pipes up under the seat. come on Ducati. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296599/Ducati-1299-Panigale-R-Final-Edition-45-274733.JPG The most stupid and retarded thing a bike can have. |
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Posted: 8/27/2017 6:19:23 PM EDT
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Holy fuck, that sounds awesome. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 6:57:54 AM EDT
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get those pipes up under the seat. come on Ducati. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296599/Ducati-1299-Panigale-R-Final-Edition-45-274733.JPG The most stupid and retarded thing a bike can have. ETA, cat's out of the bag. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 4:34:54 PM EDT
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I suspect someone's going to get their pipes cleaned by "Mario" & "Luigi" over this leak.
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Posted: 9/6/2017 6:37:52 PM EDT
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Think its gng to be shown at Misano tomorrow
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Posted: 9/6/2017 6:41:42 PM EDT
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I suspect someone's going to get their pipes cleaned by "Mario" & "Luigi" over this leak. It's working on me.......I want one!
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Posted: 9/6/2017 7:19:53 PM EDT
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Doubtful.......they LOVE these leaks, and many are orchestrated to generate buzz. It's working on me.......I want one! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I suspect someone's going to get their pipes cleaned by "Mario" & "Luigi" over this leak. It's working on me.......I want one! Rumors has it the next gen S1000RR (~2019) will have a lot of redesign advances, incl. reverse spin crank (surprising Ducati never did this), TFT with on screen GPS, etc. Pic: 
Not as sexy as the Stradale, but not bad. Aftermarket pipe would clean it up. I think BMW probably has an edge in the electronic suspension dept with its more open loop Sachs units that sample & adjust damping action 100/sec, compared to the Ohlins units (on the Ducatis & Yamahas) that switch between configured damping operation modes in response to suspension activity. But the the latter setup apparently operates more consistently, so who am I to say? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 8:47:21 PM EDT
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That looks expensive.
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Posted: 9/6/2017 9:02:46 PM EDT
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That sound!
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Posted: 9/7/2017 12:31:40 AM EDT
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They do like to tease, but the big reveal was supposed to be at Misano tomorrow. I keep thinking that e-bikes are right around the corner, but then this pops up & puts me on the ropes. I would still wait a yr or 2, though. Esp. for the price point. Rumors has it the next gen S1000RR (~2019) will have a lot of redesign advances, incl. reverse spin crank (surprising Ducati never did this), TFT with on screen GPS, etc. Pic: http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/2000_1x_/public/images/2017/08/bmw_s1000_rr_003.jpg?itok=YR5JjuJC&fc=50,50 http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/655_1x_/public/images/2017/08/bmw_s1000_rr_006.jpg?itok=9s-1OQTr http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/655_1x_/public/images/2017/08/bmw_sxxx_rr_005-2.jpg?itok=7DQMS73p Not as sexy as the Stradale, but not bad. Aftermarket pipe would clean it up. I think BMW probably has an edge in the electronic suspension dept with its more open loop Sachs units that sample & adjust damping action 100/sec, compared to the Ohlins units (on the Ducatis & Yamahas) that switch between configured damping operation modes in response to suspension activity. But the the latter setup apparently operates more consistently, so who am I to say? As for the v4 duck, it looks like a panigale fucked an RSV4... probably not a bike I would ride, and as an R1M owner I'm the target demographic. I've ridden a 1299 Panigale S in anger and could see myself having one of them after the first owner made the usual mods. It's a much easier bike to ride fast than my Yamaha, I don't see the new v4 being more like a panigale than my Yamaha. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 2:13:13 AM EDT
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I'm sure it will be fast, but if that test mule is anything to go by it won't be the best looking bike out by a long margin. As for the v4 duck, it looks like a panigale fucked an RSV4... probably not a bike I would ride, and as an R1M owner I'm the target demographic. I've ridden a 1299 Panigale S in anger and could see myself having one of them after the first owner made the usual mods. It's a much easier bike to ride fast than my Yamaha, I don't see the new v4 being more like a panigale than my Yamaha. |
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Posted: 9/7/2017 12:18:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/7/2017 3:45:29 PM EDT
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Caught this little gem:
Crash.net
The road-going version will have a displacement of 1100cc from the V4 producing 210bhp featuring a counter-rotating crank with a twin-pulse firing order, while the racing version will be made with 1000cc in order to meet World Superbike regulations. It also has variable length intake plenums. They really went the whole distance on this project. More pics: 
Panigale v. Stradale: 
ST4 v. Stradale: 
I actually like it, but it's getting railed over at ducati1299.com where I found these pics. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:15:14 PM EDT
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Is it just me? Either this guy is huge or this is a small bike. The rider is bigger than the bike. He looks so cramped. It looks like he is riding one of those miniature bikes. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 4:03:43 PM EDT
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Caught this little gem: Been waiting for this MGP feature to finally make it into a production bike. It also has variable length intake plenums. They really went the whole distance on this project. More pics: https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/attachments/img_9451-jpg.96981/ http://www.visordown.com/sites/default/files/field/image/Ducati%20Panigale%20V4.jpg https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/attachments/1-jpg.96985/ Panigale v. Stradale: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJIE4kJXUAAHoLJ.jpg:large ST4 v. Stradale: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJINeF9W4AYWIeI.jpg I actually like it, but it's getting railed over at ducati1299.com where I found these pics. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 6:09:46 PM EDT
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http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/655_1x_/public/images/2017/08/bmw_s1000_rr_006.jpg?itok=9s-1OQTr Is it just me? Either this guy is huge or this is a small bike. The rider is bigger than the bike. He looks so cramped. It looks like he is riding one of those miniature bikes. I look like that on every bike I ride |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 11:21:11 PM EDT
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Is it just me? Either this guy is huge or this is a small bike. The rider is bigger than the bike. He looks so cramped. It looks like he is riding one of those miniature bikes.
I'm sure the BMW has been shrunk somewhat, but the rider is a bratwurst bandit. |
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