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Posted: 5/19/2017 2:10:42 PM EDT
Somebody had a project car they couldn't finish, my bro basically stole it and is finishing it up
 Attached FileNew fenders  Attached FileNasty carpet but no major rust  Attached FileFancy front end  Attached File455, Ross pistons, roller cam, #48 heads and not at all streetable. It's been sold, this one will have an LS.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 2:14:53 PM EDT
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Going to the shop
 Attached FileStripped  Attached FileSandblasted  Attached FileDrying after an Osph phosphate acid wash. This bitch won't rust for about 1,000 years  Attached FileNext pics will be the front end parts, they have been powder coated black and grey instead of that blue |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 2:33:56 PM EDT
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Very nice. My wife stumbled onto a 74 Firebird with 60K original miles from a relative of the dealership owner, who was the original owner. Needed a lot of gaskets and hoses replaced, but what do you expect on a 40 year old car.
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Posted: 5/19/2017 3:39:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SShockwave]
[#3]
Nice! Those look like Firebird front fenders unless you plan to use them and cut out the TA air ducts. Sticking with the shaker hood or going with a factory fiberglass formula ram air snorkel hood? Which LS engine? Is that a Heidt's front sub frame? Is he keeping it a "74" with the 74 nose or using a 70-73 or maybe a 77-78?
I have a friend with a 77 SE that wants to sell it to me and I keep mentally fighting with myself to buy it and either go stock 400 or go LS3 with pro-toured suspension/brakes. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 8:57:00 PM EDT
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nice
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Posted: 5/19/2017 10:18:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _hacker_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SShockwave:
Nice! Those look like Firebird front fenders unless you plan to use them and cut out the TA air ducts. Sticking with the shaker hood or going with a factory fiberglass formula ram air snorkel hood? Which LS engine? Is that a Heidt's front sub frame? Is he keeping it a "74" with the 74 nose or using a 70-73 or maybe a 77-78? I have a friend with a 77 SE that wants to sell it to me and I keep mentally fighting with myself to buy it and either go stock 400 or go LS3 with pro-toured suspension/brakes. We got a *very* nice 73 nose and formula hood so I thing we're going that route. Doing some studying now to see what it would take to put 73 tail lights and bumper on it now.... Not impossible but shit... The 74 nose was shit on this particular car, busted up and twisted (most likely in a wreck at some point). It is a heidts subframe. He's getting a GM ls376/480 'connect and cruise's with the auto trans. Decent performance with daily driver ability. Eta I'm a bit of a Pontiac fan. I built a decent 455/th400 for mine and it was very expensive. If I had to do it again... I gotta say it's hard to beat technology. Now if you have some numbers matching car by all means keep it Pontiac but if it's been hacked up like this one, might as well make it modern |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 9:24:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _hacker_:
You're right, those are firebird fenders. We'll probably leave them as-is. We got a *very* nice 73 nose and formula hood so I thing we're going that route. Doing some studying now to see what it would take to put 73 tail lights and bumper on it now.... Not impossible but shit... The 74 nose was shit on this particular car, busted up and twisted (most likely in a wreck at some point). It is a heidts subframe. He's getting a GM ls376/480 'connect and cruise's with the auto trans. Decent performance with daily driver ability. Eta I'm a bit of a Pontiac fan. I built a decent 455/th400 for mine and it was very expensive. If I had to do it again... I gotta say it's hard to beat technology. Now if you have some numbers matching car by all means keep it Pontiac but if it's been hacked up like this one, might as well make it modern 1. On the nose and rear bumper/lights, honestly I would keep it 74 as a 74 is one year only car in that having the 74-76 nose but with the smaller back window. You can spot a 74 immediately because of this. Also you NEVER see them and in my opinion the 70-73 front is kinda played out similarly to the 70-73 camaro RS nose. it's everywhere when it used to be no where. 2. Front fenders - get the TA side vents installed or get TA fenders. If I remember right you can use pretty much all of the TA fenders from 70-81 and if that's an aftermarket fender, a GM fender will fit better. 3. hood - being a TA you almost have to go shaker and I've seen setups where people have successfully mounted the shaker to the top of a LS engine. You'll catch a lot of shit for not having the shaker as like the fender flares and side fender vents, it's an integral part of the Trans Am. If this is a real verified Trans Am I would leave all of the TA parts and 74 parts on it as they are getting more rare by the day. Especially since he's spending the level of money he is on it. If its a Firebird or Formula, do whatever you want, but if TA, keep it TA. Are you guys going back to white? |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 12:17:13 PM EDT
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I'm normally an advocate of LS swaps, but not with Pontiacs. I would have ditched the carb but kept the 455. Poncho power + EFI = awesome.
Not trying to beat up on you though. Either way it looks like a great project. 
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Posted: 5/21/2017 12:19:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: _hacker_]
[#8]
Thanks guys, its shaping up to be a nice car. We got some t/a fenders and I scored a very nice shaker hood today!!
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Posted: 5/21/2017 8:30:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _hacker_:
Thanks guys, its shaping up to be a nice car. We got some t/a fenders and I scored a very nice shaker hood today!! Just curious. I haven't looked in a long time. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2017 8:44:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P400:
I'm normally an advocate of LS swaps, but not with Pontiacs. I would have ditched the carb but kept the 455. Poncho power + EFI = awesome. Not trying to beat up on you though. Either way it looks like a great project. |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 12:06:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P400:
How's the parts availability situation for second gens these days? Just curious. I haven't looked in a long time. On the other hand I just put a headliner in a 79 t-top car and I can't find some of the plastic interior parts for that. I can find part numbers, but nothing available. |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 12:10:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Snafu12:
Plus 1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Snafu12:
Originally Posted By P400:
I'm normally an advocate of LS swaps, but not with Pontiacs. I would have ditched the carb but kept the 455. Poncho power + EFI = awesome. Not trying to beat up on you though. Either way it looks like a great project.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/23/2017 7:37:10 AM EDT
[#13]
Cool build.
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Posted: 5/25/2017 8:13:54 PM EDT
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2017 10:25:42 PM EDT
[#15]
impressive work. thanks for the pics.
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Posted: 6/2/2017 2:06:10 PM EDT
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Body has been primed and interior painted with some stuff called chassis saver
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Posted: 6/2/2017 2:08:20 PM EDT
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And on a side note, I have obtained most of the parts I need to put a multiport EFI setup on my 455. I'll do a separate thread for that though.
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Posted: 6/2/2017 5:54:09 PM EDT
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Looks great. What kind of numbers are you expecting from the 455?
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Posted: 6/2/2017 6:44:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _hacker_]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inspector2211:
Looks great. What kind of numbers are you expecting from the 455? Eta I think maybe 475-500 is more realistic and keep it somewhat streetable |
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Posted: 6/4/2017 1:06:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _hacker_:
And on a side note, I have obtained most of the parts I need to put a multiport EFI setup on my 455. I'll do a separate thread for that though. |
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Posted: 6/4/2017 7:31:45 PM EDT
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Nice job OP, I'm a HUGE Chassis Saver fan. Getting ready to do my "68 Stang with it...
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Posted: 6/5/2017 10:33:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sick1]
[#22]
Just finishing up the paint on a 75 myself. Looks like an awesome project.
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Posted: 6/5/2017 10:42:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sick1:
Just finishing up the paint on a 75 myself. Looks like an awesome project.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/95957/IMG-7004-223619.JPG |
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Posted: 6/5/2017 8:26:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2017 9:09:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _hacker_]
[#25]
 Attached FileRear end and gas tank out. Got a new tank with internal fuel pump. Eta we should have a new 9inch under it this weekend |
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:12:24 PM EDT
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That is looking nice! Following this one for sure.
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Posted: 6/13/2017 1:39:21 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sick1:
Just finishing up the paint on a 75 myself. Looks like an awesome project.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/95957/IMG-7004-223619.JPG |
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Posted: 6/14/2017 2:32:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _hacker_]
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Rear end came in. Straight from Moser
 Attached File Attached FileEta 3.70 with their Hotchkiss suspension kit. Still need shocks. |
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Posted: 6/18/2017 10:20:50 PM EDT
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I was very optimistic on getting that rear in. Don't even have all the parts in. Here's some more boring paint pics. More chassis saver underneath the car
Rear looking forward  Attached FilePart of a floorpan  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/22/2017 8:36:28 PM EDT
[#30]
Whole bunch of parts are in
Bedliner under the car  Attached FilePowder coated front end goodies  Attached FileRear springs  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 1:40:12 PM EDT
[#31]
How have I not seen this thread until now??
Looks like a great project, here's mine 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 8:29:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Nice!
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:34:41 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
How have I not seen this thread until now?? Looks like a great project, here's mine http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab299/sixgunsblazing/Mobile%20Uploads/CA0FB898-C7EC-4C29-9FF5-245CF2E68BFF_zpsbowqudlt.jpg |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 11:41:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SShockwave]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
How have I not seen this thread until now?? Looks like a great project, here's mine http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab299/sixgunsblazing/Mobile%20Uploads/CA0FB898-C7EC-4C29-9FF5-245CF2E68BFF_zpsbowqudlt.jpg OP, this is "THE LOOK" I was talking about that you guys should go for. Seeing all these 74's really hurts as in the late 90's I found a 74 SD455 for sale locally for like $8000 or something rediclously stupid, but I was a teenager and KNEW that time was short on the salad days and that prices were going to sky rocket and sure as shit by 2002 they increase 20 times in price over a 10 month span. My Dad just didn't understand and wouldn't take a chance, I like to remind him everytime I see one go for $100,000 at auction. Fuck, you guys are going to make me have to go buy that rust free 77 SE TA that's been hiding in a friend's garage for the past 14 years. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:22:21 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SShockwave:
Damn son, you nailed it! OP, this is "THE LOOK" I was talking about that you guys should go for. Seeing all these 74's really hurts as in the late 90's I found a 74 SD455 for sale locally for like $8000 or something rediclously stupid, but I was a teenager and KNEW that time was short on the salad days and that prices were going to sky rocket and sure as shit by 2002 they increase 20 times in price over a 10 month span. My Dad just didn't understand and wouldn't take a chance, I like to remind him everytime I see one go for $100,000 at auction. Fuck, you guys are going to make me have to go buy that rust free 77 SE TA that's been hiding in a friend's garage for the past 14 years. |
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Posted: 6/26/2017 8:54:27 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
How have I not seen this thread until now?? Looks like a great project, here's mine http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab299/sixgunsblazing/Mobile%20Uploads/CA0FB898-C7EC-4C29-9FF5-245CF2E68BFF_zpsbowqudlt.jpg |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:02:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
How have I not seen this thread until now?? Looks like a great project, here's mine http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab299/sixgunsblazing/Mobile%20Uploads/CA0FB898-C7EC-4C29-9FF5-245CF2E68BFF_zpsbowqudlt.jpg Latest pic:  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/6/2017 7:48:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/23/2017 10:55:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2017 11:01:16 AM EDT
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Ok, things are getting interesting
 Attached File Attached File Attached FileI also have some updates on my car, I gotta start a thread soon. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 11:22:18 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P400:
How's the parts availability situation for second gens these days? Just curious. I haven't looked in a long time. I'm also gathering rear end parts. I decided to beef up the factory 10 bolt. I have Moser axles and ordered a gear, carrier and full bearing kit. I have confidence it will be solid after the rebuild. These aren't hard to find at all, super common. Interior is a different story. I'm trying to find a dash, the whole damn thing (not gauges and face plate, the metal frame and padded vinyl). These are rare as unicorn piss. There is one company that makes repros but they don't produce many of them. Then there is justdashes in Van nuys that restores them, got a quote for 1790 for the dash itself and another 150 for the glove compartment door. I'm not quite ready to lay down that kind of money. For now I'm going to keep looking on eBay and some.online classifieds looking for a decent used example. I guess. I'm also needing t-top parts that are proving difficult to find but I haven't? done as deep a dive on those as I did the dash. I called every vendor I know of on that dash. Mine looks like hell. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 1:34:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _hacker_:
Little update on parts. I just got all steering parts for mine, stock power steering pump, box, pitman arm, drag link and rod ends with sway bar links and necessary bushings, all parts were in stock at various places and not too expensive. I'm also gathering rear end parts. I decided to beef up the factory 10 bolt. I have Moser axles and ordered a gear, carrier and full bearing kit. I have confidence it will be solid after the rebuild. These aren't hard to find at all, super common. Interior is a different story. I'm trying to find a dash, the whole damn thing (not gauges and face plate, the metal frame and padded vinyl). These are rare as unicorn piss. There is one company that makes repros but they don't produce many of them. Then there is justdashes in Van nuys that restores them, got a quote for 1790 for the dash itself and another 150 for the glove compartment door. I'm not quite ready to lay down that kind of money. For now I'm going to keep looking on eBay and some.online classifieds looking for a decent used example. I guess. I'm also needing t-top parts that are proving difficult to find but I haven't? done as deep a dive on those as I did the dash. I called every vendor I know of on that dash. Mine looks like hell. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 1:40:16 PM EDT
[#43]
Tag.
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Posted: 7/28/2017 7:00:02 PM EDT
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Keep at it. Looking great!
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Posted: 7/28/2017 8:02:34 PM EDT
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Looks like an AAW harness in that box! I used theirs in my '66 Mustang GT Fastback Great product!!
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Posted: 8/4/2017 1:16:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
How have I not seen this thread until now?? Looks like a great project, here's mine http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab299/sixgunsblazing/Mobile%20Uploads/CA0FB898-C7EC-4C29-9FF5-245CF2E68BFF_zpsbowqudlt.jpg 
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Posted: 8/4/2017 1:17:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
Check out second gen graveyard on FB. The guy constantly is parting out Firebirds mostly and acutally has a couple nice dashes for sale. Based in North Cali 
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Posted: 8/4/2017 12:26:00 PM EDT
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No! I don't need to see this!!! arrrgghhh! Must resist buying 77 SE TA!
Dammit, keep you eyes peeled for another "build thread" if I cannot keep my money in my pocket over the next 30 days. |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 11:05:09 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
Check out second gen graveyard on FB. The guy constantly is parting out Firebirds mostly and acutally has a couple nice dashes for sale. Based in North Cali Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
Originally Posted By _hacker_:
Little update on parts. I just got all steering parts for mine, stock power steering pump, box, pitman arm, drag link and rod ends with sway bar links and necessary bushings, all parts were in stock at various places and not too expensive. I'm also gathering rear end parts. I decided to beef up the factory 10 bolt. I have Moser axles and ordered a gear, carrier and full bearing kit. I have confidence it will be solid after the rebuild. These aren't hard to find at all, super common. Interior is a different story. I'm trying to find a dash, the whole damn thing (not gauges and face plate, the metal frame and padded vinyl). These are rare as unicorn piss. There is one company that makes repros but they don't produce many of them. Then there is justdashes in Van nuys that restores them, got a quote for 1790 for the dash itself and another 150 for the glove compartment door. I'm not quite ready to lay down that kind of money. For now I'm going to keep looking on eBay and some.online classifieds looking for a decent used example. I guess. I'm also needing t-top parts that are proving difficult to find but I haven't? done as deep a dive on those as I did the dash. I called every vendor I know of on that dash. Mine looks like hell. I'll get some more pics. The motor is at a shop getting a Dod/vvt delete and "stage 2 cam" swap with all that entails. |
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Posted: 8/18/2017 8:33:16 PM EDT
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Motor is ready for pickup
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